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September 30, 2005, 1:03 pm PDT

09/30 "Get a Backbone!"

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First of all, I think Beth is soemone to be admired. It seems to take little more than money in some cases to get a degree now, but it takes intelligence, hard work, and determination for someone in Beth's situation to get to where she is. If you are rading this, Beth, I want you to know I think you are amazingly strong (now get that backbone, girl!) and do not even see that. 

  

As for UoP giving her a scholarship, I think that only reiterates the idea taht degrees hold less value than they did 10 years ago. I worked hard to earn mine, and I was a HS graduate, in honors classes, had a 2 yr degree behind me....there was a lot of reading, writing, and research involved in earning that degree. Now I am not meaning to say that Beth is not smart enough to get a degree! But if she has a first grade education (although based upon what she has accomplished, I think experience puts her at a higher level), why not test her and set up a private tutor or soemthing - start w/ a GED or HS diploma, then college. I am concerned she is either going to be overwhelmed by it all (the expectancy, format, curriculum she missed in school) or be given a degree w/o really earning it, which is a diservice to everyojne involved. It seems education does not hold the value and honor it once did. Beth was courteous and thankful for the award, but she could have been given something more realistic and practical for her life right now. Sorry, Dr. Phil, but I have to give you a thumbs down on this one. 

I really think Beth is smarter than what she is giving her self credit for.  Anyone who can buy a beauty shop and not have an education ie: reading and writing.  I think you misunderstood what Dr. Phil and The President of Phoenix University said.  They are going to help her get to the college level by teaching her to read and write and then she will be able to enroll in the university.  It will be a challenge for her to do this but, I think if she does do it she will be more confident with herself and her decisions and she will not have to worry about not having a backbone anymore.  She seems to be a very nice genuine person, there are not many people like her in this world.  I hope she gets her education and becomes even more successful in her business.  I wish I had a friend like her, and anyone who would leave a friend after she gets her education and starts running her business like she wants it run, is not a very good friend. 
 

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September 30, 2005, 9:30 pm PDT

09/30 "Get a Backbone!"

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First of all, I think Beth is soemone to be admired. It seems to take little more than money in some cases to get a degree now, but it takes intelligence, hard work, and determination for someone in Beth's situation to get to where she is. If you are rading this, Beth, I want you to know I think you are amazingly strong (now get that backbone, girl!) and do not even see that. 

  

As for UoP giving her a scholarship, I think that only reiterates the idea taht degrees hold less value than they did 10 years ago. I worked hard to earn mine, and I was a HS graduate, in honors classes, had a 2 yr degree behind me....there was a lot of reading, writing, and research involved in earning that degree. Now I am not meaning to say that Beth is not smart enough to get a degree! But if she has a first grade education (although based upon what she has accomplished, I think experience puts her at a higher level), why not test her and set up a private tutor or soemthing - start w/ a GED or HS diploma, then college. I am concerned she is either going to be overwhelmed by it all (the expectancy, format, curriculum she missed in school) or be given a degree w/o really earning it, which is a diservice to everyojne involved. It seems education does not hold the value and honor it once did. Beth was courteous and thankful for the award, but she could have been given something more realistic and practical for her life right now. Sorry, Dr. Phil, but I have to give you a thumbs down on this one. 

I could be wrong but I kind of got the feeling that they were going to work with her to get her to the level of education that she would need in order to start college. She seemed a little suprised and overwhelmed by it as well, I'm guessing because she can't even read, but it seemed like they were going to set her up with some sort of tutoring to get her to college level. She seems to be an intelligent adult, it shouldn't take her nearly as long to get to high school diploma level as it does when you are a kid going through school.  

  

I agree with you that ecuation in this country is not worth what it once was, but I do not think they are going to allow this woman to fall through the cracks or coast along and get a degree without earning it. I think she is more than willing to put in the work as it seems her level of education is tied very closely to her self worth. Anyway I guess my point is that I believe they intend to start with the basics like you said, testing her, helping her work toward a GED and the like.  

  

Good luck Beth! I know you have it in you!   

 
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October 1, 2005, 12:57 am PDT

what?

Quote From: usmcwyfe

First of all, I think Beth is soemone to be admired. It seems to take little more than money in some cases to get a degree now, but it takes intelligence, hard work, and determination for someone in Beth's situation to get to where she is. If you are rading this, Beth, I want you to know I think you are amazingly strong (now get that backbone, girl!) and do not even see that. 

  

As for UoP giving her a scholarship, I think that only reiterates the idea taht degrees hold less value than they did 10 years ago. I worked hard to earn mine, and I was a HS graduate, in honors classes, had a 2 yr degree behind me....there was a lot of reading, writing, and research involved in earning that degree. Now I am not meaning to say that Beth is not smart enough to get a degree! But if she has a first grade education (although based upon what she has accomplished, I think experience puts her at a higher level), why not test her and set up a private tutor or soemthing - start w/ a GED or HS diploma, then college. I am concerned she is either going to be overwhelmed by it all (the expectancy, format, curriculum she missed in school) or be given a degree w/o really earning it, which is a diservice to everyojne involved. It seems education does not hold the value and honor it once did. Beth was courteous and thankful for the award, but she could have been given something more realistic and practical for her life right now. Sorry, Dr. Phil, but I have to give you a thumbs down on this one. 

just because someone gets the money to go to school does not mean it is going to be work.  she wasn't handed a degree, only the opportunity to get one. 

 


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