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October 7, 2005, 8:16 am PDT

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Breast feeding in public?  I have no problem with it as long as she doesn't call a lot of attention to herself, which I personally have NEVER seen happen.  If baby's hungry, feed him/her! 

  

Condoms in schools? it's giving tacit permission to kids.  we have NO PROBLEM saying "SAY NO TO DRUGS" , "DON'T SMOKE", "DON'T DRINK!"  Why can't we tell our kids "SAY NO TO SEX"??  the argument "they're going to do it anyway" is not a valid one.  One can also say, "they're going to smoke anyway, do drugs anyway, or they're going to drink alcohol anyway, so let's give them "safe" light cigarettes, clean marijuana, etc., in school."  Give me a break!  why is it ok for our teens to have sex?  oh wait... the abortion industry has to thrive.  they would lose money if our kids didn't have sex.  condoms?  they fail.  a lot.  If you're 13 year old daughter gets pregnant and what do you do?  (I would hope most would place the baby for adoption!) unfortunately, too many will abort, which is why the industry is a multi billion dollar a year business.   

We are lying to our kids and permitting them to make mistakes that will affect them the rest of their lives.  Why can't we tell them the truth instead of sanitizing it and making it a "decision" for them?  We teach them about the bad effects of drugs, but don't tell them "if you should decide to use drugs, especially IV drugs, use a sterile needle."  It's time to be parents and "just say no" to schools handing out condoms and get involved with your school's sex ed program. 

  

I'll say something to a parent if the kid is acting up and the parent is doing nothing. and if a parent still does nothing, I have no qualms about correcting a child, especially if it may be affecting my property or someone elses.  maybe, just maybe, they'll get the message that society won't put up with their bad behavior.  but then again, maybe I'm an optimist. 

No we don't have any problem telling our kids to say no to drugs, drinking or smoking.  And I don't think anyone is saying there is a problem telling kids not to have sex.  We are just making sure that if our kids are going to have sex they are protected.  I remember after one of the Don't Drink and Drive lectures in school...the teachers/SADD *Students Against Destructive Decisions* handed out a contract for parents and teens to sign.  The teens portion stated that if they drank they were to call their parents for a ride home...and the parents portion stated that they would not hassle or give the teens any punishment via the phone or that evening when tempers ran high.  Did this encourage teens to go out and get smashed...probably no more than would have normally.  Did anyone get on a soap box and preach that is was going to give teens the illusion that adults were supporting underage drinking NO.   

I don't think a kid who was going to not have sex until marriage would go out and lay down with the first opprotunity that came along just because they were presented with a condom.  I do feel that a kid who is presented with an opprotunity to have sex is far safer if they have a condom, because likely they may not go and buy one for themselves.   I personally feel if you aren't mature enough to buy a condom because you are too ashamed then you are too immature to have sex.  However I am speaking from adulthood, with more knowledge of actions and their consequences. 

It isn't okay for teens to have sex....but they are....not all of them...and it isn't because we hand out condoms...or we don't talk about abstinence enough.  If one kid having a condom prevents that kid from having a child in high school or getting AIDS at 16 yrs old then it was worth it.  

By saying that the abortion industy needs to thrive and that is why we want our child having condoms is just absurd.  We want to try to prevent teenage pregnancy...not promote it...if we wanted the abortion "industry" to thrive we would kids to go out have lots of sex and leave the condoms at home.  I would not even suggest handing out condoms without a proper sexual education class behind it to instruct the children not only on the proper use of a condom, but the physical, emotional, and pyschological ramifactions of having sex at such a young age.   To say that by handing out condoms in school is supporting the abortion "industry" is just adding controversial fuel to an already controversial fire. 


Personally I wouldnt want the school to give my kids condoms but that is because I myself want to make that option known to my children...and make sure we have open lines of communication and that if they need to talk about something important such as sex..they can come to me..they don't have to seek a neutral third party.  However...maybe when the schools send home forms asking permission to hand out medical attention or for permission to ATTEND the sexual education classes *which at least at my former school they did*  they can add an addedum on the permission slip..a little box:  Do you wish your children to be given condoms at the end of this lesson?  Yes or No. 

  

  

 

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October 8, 2005, 12:02 pm PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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Breast feeding in public?  I have no problem with it as long as she doesn't call a lot of attention to herself, which I personally have NEVER seen happen.  If baby's hungry, feed him/her! 

  

Condoms in schools? it's giving tacit permission to kids.  we have NO PROBLEM saying "SAY NO TO DRUGS" , "DON'T SMOKE", "DON'T DRINK!"  Why can't we tell our kids "SAY NO TO SEX"??  the argument "they're going to do it anyway" is not a valid one.  One can also say, "they're going to smoke anyway, do drugs anyway, or they're going to drink alcohol anyway, so let's give them "safe" light cigarettes, clean marijuana, etc., in school."  Give me a break!  why is it ok for our teens to have sex?  oh wait... the abortion industry has to thrive.  they would lose money if our kids didn't have sex.  condoms?  they fail.  a lot.  If you're 13 year old daughter gets pregnant and what do you do?  (I would hope most would place the baby for adoption!) unfortunately, too many will abort, which is why the industry is a multi billion dollar a year business.   

We are lying to our kids and permitting them to make mistakes that will affect them the rest of their lives.  Why can't we tell them the truth instead of sanitizing it and making it a "decision" for them?  We teach them about the bad effects of drugs, but don't tell them "if you should decide to use drugs, especially IV drugs, use a sterile needle."  It's time to be parents and "just say no" to schools handing out condoms and get involved with your school's sex ed program. 

  

I'll say something to a parent if the kid is acting up and the parent is doing nothing. and if a parent still does nothing, I have no qualms about correcting a child, especially if it may be affecting my property or someone elses.  maybe, just maybe, they'll get the message that society won't put up with their bad behavior.  but then again, maybe I'm an optimist. 

 I absolutely applaud your idea of a "Just Say No to Sex"! Even if you were partly joking, after reading your message, it has occurred to me that this is program idea that should actually be pushed in our school systems. Sure, your right, kids will still have sex just as kids still do drugs and drink and drive etc...but does that me we should just give up and wash our hands of it?! Apparently, we're still pushing the anti-drug & drinking movements.....lets do our kids a favor and start this thing!!!
 
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October 8, 2005, 1:17 pm PDT

If your 13 yr old got pregnant

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Breast feeding in public?  I have no problem with it as long as she doesn't call a lot of attention to herself, which I personally have NEVER seen happen.  If baby's hungry, feed him/her! 

  

Condoms in schools? it's giving tacit permission to kids.  we have NO PROBLEM saying "SAY NO TO DRUGS" , "DON'T SMOKE", "DON'T DRINK!"  Why can't we tell our kids "SAY NO TO SEX"??  the argument "they're going to do it anyway" is not a valid one.  One can also say, "they're going to smoke anyway, do drugs anyway, or they're going to drink alcohol anyway, so let's give them "safe" light cigarettes, clean marijuana, etc., in school."  Give me a break!  why is it ok for our teens to have sex?  oh wait... the abortion industry has to thrive.  they would lose money if our kids didn't have sex.  condoms?  they fail.  a lot.  If you're 13 year old daughter gets pregnant and what do you do?  (I would hope most would place the baby for adoption!) unfortunately, too many will abort, which is why the industry is a multi billion dollar a year business.   

We are lying to our kids and permitting them to make mistakes that will affect them the rest of their lives.  Why can't we tell them the truth instead of sanitizing it and making it a "decision" for them?  We teach them about the bad effects of drugs, but don't tell them "if you should decide to use drugs, especially IV drugs, use a sterile needle."  It's time to be parents and "just say no" to schools handing out condoms and get involved with your school's sex ed program. 

  

I'll say something to a parent if the kid is acting up and the parent is doing nothing. and if a parent still does nothing, I have no qualms about correcting a child, especially if it may be affecting my property or someone elses.  maybe, just maybe, they'll get the message that society won't put up with their bad behavior.  but then again, maybe I'm an optimist. 

I recently learned that if my 13 yr old got pregnant: I have no legal right to make a decision regarding the pregnancy. She becomes a "consequential adult". I can't make her give the child up for adoption, I can't her to have an abortion,  yet I can't afford to raise another child, and she is too young to emancipate. These mistakes aren't limited to affecting the rest of their lives....they affect ours too. I can only hope is to educate her and hope to avoid an unwanted pregnancy.
 


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