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July 11, 2007, 3:15 pm PDT

You have just had the wrong Dr.

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Medical doctors are so quick to push pills on everyone I know AND they don't listen, really listen, to us anymore. Their paperwork matters more than we do!

How can these "first, do no harm" doctors charge people several day's pay just for a few medical tests and an office visit?? We are not rich, too many Americans don't have any insurance ... how can doctors do this to us and still claim they are "first, doing no harm??"

When a friend started going through menopause her medical doctor wouldn't listen to her talking about all the breast cancer in her family, just tried to get her prescribed in some hormones and an antidepressant. Fortunately we knew a good alternative doctor who got her through this with herbs, dietary changes and got her with a good therapist... she's doing better than she has been for years!

Another friend's mom had medical issues and her doctor kept telling her it was arthritis, or gastric problems, or etc. It was bladder cancer that the quack didn't catch and now this dear woman is DEAD!!

Doctors treat us like cattle to be processed, not like human beings deserving of their time, attention and RESPECT!! If they want us to feel we can trust them, they darn well better start earning our trust and respect by first, doing NO harm!

As a future Doctor, this post upsets and scares me.  First of all, if your Dr. is not listening to what you are saying, then you need to find another Dr.  The health history is one of the most important factors in making a diagnosis.  My response to you is to try an Osteopathic Physician.  Not only are they trained the same as MD, but they are also trained in Osteopathic Manipulative Therapy (a type of therapy similar to Physical therapy and chiropractic care that involves no medications and can often aleviate aches and pains without medication).  Along with the training listed above, Osteopathic training specifically focuses on patient centered care and the natural balance of the human body.  Osteopathic Physicians (DO's) can do anything a regular MD can do including surgery, prescriptions, etc.  Many people may already be seeing a DO and just dont know it.  If you would like to learn more about Osteopathic Physicians, check out the American Osteopathic Association Website at : www.osteopathic.org

  As far as the charges for office visits, I do agree that they are expensive from your perspective.  From our perspective, after paying $400,000 to go to medical school you have to have a way to afford your student loan bills.  I think the solution is for the government to find a way to help medical students get through school while initiating some new healthcare assistance.  I know that when I graduate I will be paying $4000 a month in student loans, even during my residency when I will only make $37,000 a year.  Many students have to defer these loans during residency which allows them to grow to half a million dollars by the time they get their first real paycheck.  Im not saying anyone should feel sorry for us, because we made a choice.  I just wish people would understand that I have invested nearly half a million dollars in my education just so that I can serve my community as a physician.  I understand that there are HUGE problems in the healthcare system.  Half of the reason office visits are getting so expensive is because so many people dont have insurance and dont pay for thier visits.  When you work out of your own office and half of your patients have no insurance and dont pay, you cant afford to stay in practice.

   My last comment in this post is that I am totally stunned that a physician and Dr. Phil would go on national television and call a post pregnancy belly a "medical problem".  Hundreds and hundreds of us live with this every day.  We all would love to go and have it surgically removed, but there are more important things in life.  I realize that some people are uncomfortable with their bodies and if you have tons of extra money lying around, then go for it.  But I was really offended that they made a father of 4 who worked hard to support his family feel like a bad person cause he wouldnt pay $8000 for his wife to have a tummy tuck.  I come from a huge family, and I know that $ 8000 could mean years of family vacations cancelled.  It is nice that Dr. Phil paid for this woman, but I have to agree with the husband, it is not a necessary procedure, and if you are on a tight budget or have 4 kids, I think the money could be better spent.  A heart transplant is necessary, a mastectomy for a breast cancer is necessary, a tummy tuck is NOT MEDICALLY NECESSARY.

 
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July 11, 2007, 3:33 pm PDT

07/11 What’s Up, Doc?

Quote From: wavdancr

Medical doctors are so quick to push pills on everyone I know AND they don't listen, really listen, to us anymore. Their paperwork matters more than we do!

How can these "first, do no harm" doctors charge people several day's pay just for a few medical tests and an office visit?? We are not rich, too many Americans don't have any insurance ... how can doctors do this to us and still claim they are "first, doing no harm??"

When a friend started going through menopause her medical doctor wouldn't listen to her talking about all the breast cancer in her family, just tried to get her prescribed in some hormones and an antidepressant. Fortunately we knew a good alternative doctor who got her through this with herbs, dietary changes and got her with a good therapist... she's doing better than she has been for years!

Another friend's mom had medical issues and her doctor kept telling her it was arthritis, or gastric problems, or etc. It was bladder cancer that the quack didn't catch and now this dear woman is DEAD!!

Doctors treat us like cattle to be processed, not like human beings deserving of their time, attention and RESPECT!! If they want us to feel we can trust them, they darn well better start earning our trust and respect by first, doing NO harm!
I am in no way trying to be disrespectful to your cituation..But I know that doctors diagnose by assessment , signs and symptoms and diagnostic test (lab,x-ray etc....)...they are humans not God. There are always horror storys but I believe there are many positive storys to outweigh them.I agree medical care in this country could use improvement but I thank God for the docs and the research and opportunity to recieve medical help. As far as the paper work goes they hate it as much as you do.
 


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