Quote From: lunabar2I think 1-2-3 is great....IF you use it right! Recently, I witnessed a mom at a grocery store counting. She reached 1, then 2. The child blithely kept misbehaving. She waited a bit then said, 2 1/2!! Kid didn't stop. Then she said 3!! And the kid grew a halo and stopped. Then the mom said, "good, now don't do it again."  
 
I encountered them again on my journey down the aisles and, what do you know! Kid's at it again, and the mom counts fresh from 1. 
 
When you reach 3, that's IT. Game over, man. If you use 1-2-3, be prepared to ACT once you reach three. The idea is that the kid stops BEFORE three. Otherwise it's just another lame empty threat. 
 
I'm more like jettav. I say ONCE, then I act. My son is 1, and tests limits a lot. I am always consistent, because I feel that this age is crucial. If I am on top of him now, it will make 2 and 3 that much easier. Even now, people remark how well behaved he is. If I say, No, he will usually stop, unless he's a tired grump. But when he doesn't stop, he knows Mom's not afraid to pick his little diapered bum up and carry him away and stick to her guns! 
 
I guess I'm more Authoritative, at least now. 1,2,3 year olds have no business negotiating or being included in a "democracy". When they are a little older, then I will be more apt to discuss the "whys" of my discipline, but no may still mean no. I think lots of parents have the order reversed, they want the Democracy right away when their kids are toddlers. Then they realize their kids are out of control, and try to become Authoritarian during the preschool years, but the kids don't take them seriously anymore. Do it in the right order, it's MUCH easier. 
I agree with you and though it may not always be easy, as I know there are times when I just don't feel like dealing with anything, but I as the parent have to be persistent and consistent when it comes to my children. Just this morning, my 4 year old and I were sort of buttin heads and she was definetly not my sweet little girl who usually gets up excitedly to go to preschool, this morning, she was pushing some buttons and I looked at her and said, you need to stop what you are doing, or you will get a swat on the bottom, she looked at me, and though she thought about it for a few seconds, came over and hugged me and apologized. We then discussed the issue and everything was fine and she went to school a happy little girl and I certainly had a better rest of the morning. Now, I could have kept arguing with her or gave in to her demands but that wasn't about to happen and I think she has learned that there are just some things that I am not going to deal with in our home. It really does not take a child long to learn the boundaries within their environment, they learn very quickly what they can and cannot get away with and they will definetly test a person if aloud to. We certainly have our moments inour home but for the most part, it is pretty eaasy around here and that is a nice feeling.