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October 4, 2005, 2:23 pm PDT
 Quote From: justpureme In the USA you remain innocent until proven guilty. For being a land of truth and freedom, my personal rights are quickly vanishing, having been stolen from me by media shows like these, spreading untruths about my way of life. If you’re seeking to broadcast truth regarding the group The Family, why don’t you look into all sides, including mine? I think if you were to thoroughly investigate you would find that there are many more happy and well adjusted young people, most who are still members of the group, and some who have left to pursue other walks of life, then angry or abused ones. Maybe the “abuse” wasn’t as widespread as its being made out to be. And I don’t think it’s fair to say that because I am still a member of the group that I am somehow unable to determine or recognize abuse, or rightly choose between right and wrong. I am responsible for my own choices and decisions in life, just as you are for yours. The generalizations about The Family being an abusive cult are simply not true. The whole cult and everyone in it are not abusers; in fact it’s probably a safer environment over all than many other places in the world. Its almost like saying that because you were once in a car accident involving a driver from, say, Wyoming, its highly likely that anyone residing in the state of Wyoming will most likely crash into you. So what are you going to do? Have a show where you will discuss how all people from the state of Wyoming are bad drivers and how we should suspend all drivers’ licenses within that state? Or that any one hoping to be a good driver moves to another state? It’s a bit extreme when seen from that perspective. (Note: no offense meant to anyone in Wyoming.)
I’ve been a member of this missionary group, The Family Int., since I was 3yrs old. I am now 21yrs. I have never been abused in any way. My statement is not an “excuse”, as some have claimed, it’s simply the truth. Thank you for respecting that. My mother (my parents are divorced) gave me all the love and care I could ever want or need, and then some. I love you mom. I have a wonderful younger sister and the coolest little brother. The people who were my teachers and caretakers gave me the very best in every aspect; the education I received is invaluable, and I know I owe them a great deal of thanks for the positive influence they were in my life. The most valuable and treasured gift I was given was my knowledge of God and His Son Jesus. Knowing that I have my Savior forever in my heart is the most important aspect and part of my life. Being raised with the simple truth of God sending His only Son Jesus to die for my sins (Jn. 3:16) so that I could live eternally with Him in Heaven once my life on earth is done, and being given the commission of telling others who have never heard the name Jesus, of His great love for them (Mk. 16:15), has been the most wonderful part of my life. I know everyone doesn’t believe the way I do, God created us as individuals and as such we each connect with Him in our own way, and I have a lot of respect for the beliefs and faith of others. I’m glad that our country, the USA, allows us the right and freedom to believe in God, unlike some countries that aren’t as blessed. I’m disturbed by the fact that I’m defending my self, my life, and my belief in God as if I were on trial. I’m sorry if Jim, Kristi, China, and John, experienced a difficult life, and I truly hope that they are able to find closure for the things they experienced. Maybe they could more directly address the individuals whom they feel they were hurt by instead of targeting a whole group of people. Because all of a sudden this becomes a direct attack against me and my way of life, which is hard for me to understand seeing as I’ve never met any of them. But trying to tear down my life and beliefs to somehow help them feel better about theirs doesn’t seem quite right to me. I’m so sorry if to some my post seems “void of emotion” but maybe that’s due to the fact that I am not angry at anybody else. I have a happy and fulfilling life and job, I am blessed to have wonderful friends and family, and I only wish for all you who wonder about our “group” to come out and visit us for yourselves, then you would at least have a fair chance of making up your own mind as far as our “group” is concerned. You say " In the USA you remain innocent until proven guilty. For being a land of truth and freedom, my personal rights are quickly vanishing, having been stolen from me by media shows like these, spreading untruths about my way of life. If you’re seeking to broadcast truth regarding the group The Family."
How can you lecture us about innocent until proven guilty when you're own leader just last month was talking about how Katrina was god's judgement on a evil US. Here are Zerby's quotes. Have you read them?
(Mama:) So as you can see, dear Family, there are several main reasons for this storm and the destruction it has wrought:
1) America is beginning to suffer severe physical consequences for her spiritual sins. As the Lord said, "Just as the levees weren't strong enough to protect New Orleans from imminent disaster, neither were New Orleans' spiritual walls. They were weak--as shifting sand--slowly sinking along with the rest of America under the weight of her cumulative sin."
2) She's receiving the Lord's judgments for the pain and suffering and war she has inflicted upon others.
3) It's another sign of the End for America, that "all things do not continue as they have been."
4) It's the Lord's merciful warning, a call for people to examine their lives and their values and their way of life and turn again to Him.
5) It's the Lord's hand of judgment on a country that has despised His Words and misused His prophets.
World Currents!--No.103: Hurricane Katrina
By Maria FD/MM/FM 3562 9/05 |
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October 4, 2005, 4:20 pm PDT
Quote From: justpureme In the USA you remain innocent until proven guilty. For being a land of truth and freedom, my personal rights are quickly vanishing, having been stolen from me by media shows like these, spreading untruths about my way of life. If youre seeking to broadcast truth regarding the group The Family, why dont you look into all sides, including mine? I think if you were to thoroughly investigate you would find that there are many more happy and well adjusted young people, most who are still members of the group, and some who have left to pursue other walks of life, then angry or abused ones. Maybe the abuse wasnt as widespread as its being made out to be. And I dont think its fair to say that because I am still a member of the group that I am somehow unable to determine or recognize abuse, or rightly choose between right and wrong. I am responsible for my own choices and decisions in life, just as you are for yours. The generalizations about The Family being an abusive cult are simply not true. The whole cult and everyone in it are not abusers; in fact its probably a safer environment over all than many other places in the world. Its almost like saying that because you were once in a car accident involving a driver from, say, Wyoming, its highly likely that anyone residing in the state of Wyoming will most likely crash into you. So what are you going to do? Have a show where you will discuss how all people from the state of Wyoming are bad drivers and how we should suspend all drivers licenses within that state? Or that any one hoping to be a good driver moves to another state? Its a bit extreme when seen from that perspective. (Note: no offense meant to anyone in Wyoming.)
Ive been a member of this missionary group, The Family Int., since I was 3yrs old. I am now 21yrs. I have never been abused in any way. My statement is not an excuse, as some have claimed, its simply the truth. Thank you for respecting that. My mother (my parents are divorced) gave me all the love and care I could ever want or need, and then some. I love you mom. I have a wonderful younger sister and the coolest little brother. The people who were my teachers and caretakers gave me the very best in every aspect; the education I received is invaluable, and I know I owe them a great deal of thanks for the positive influence they were in my life. The most valuable and treasured gift I was given was my knowledge of God and His Son Jesus. Knowing that I have my Savior forever in my heart is the most important aspect and part of my life. Being raised with the simple truth of God sending His only Son Jesus to die for my sins (Jn. 3:16) so that I could live eternally with Him in Heaven once my life on earth is done, and being given the commission of telling others who have never heard the name Jesus, of His great love for them (Mk. 16:15), has been the most wonderful part of my life. I know everyone doesnt believe the way I do, God created us as individuals and as such we each connect with Him in our own way, and I have a lot of respect for the beliefs and faith of others. Im glad that our country, the USA, allows us the right and freedom to believe in God, unlike some countries that arent as blessed. Im disturbed by the fact that Im defending my self, my life, and my belief in God as if I were on trial. Im sorry if Jim, Kristi, China, and John, experienced a difficult life, and I truly hope that they are able to find closure for the things they experienced. Maybe they could more directly address the individuals whom they feel they were hurt by instead of targeting a whole group of people. Because all of a sudden this becomes a direct attack against me and my way of life, which is hard for me to understand seeing as Ive never met any of them. But trying to tear down my life and beliefs to somehow help them feel better about theirs doesnt seem quite right to me. Im so sorry if to some my post seems void of emotion but maybe thats due to the fact that I am not angry at anybody else. I have a happy and fulfilling life and job, I am blessed to have wonderful friends and family, and I only wish for all you who wonder about our group to come out and visit us for yourselves, then you would at least have a fair chance of making up your own mind as far as our group is concerned. Dear young family member:
I have a few questions - when you were growing up, did you ever read the Davidito book? Would you have known if anyone was practicing what was preached in that book? How about Heaven's Girl - do you remember the part about how she was ganged raped by the AC forces and enjoyed every minute of it so she could witness to them, even though she was a young teenager? Did you watch your mom get dressed as she prepared to go out FFing to do her religious prostitution? Did your parents have swapping sessions? Were they on the sharing schedule? Did your mom dance naked for the brothers? Did you ever attend a YES camp for young teens, engineered by Gary, Berg's right-hand man, or a victor camp?
If you never experienced any of these things then you were either, a - too young to remember, b - in some far off home away from everybody, or if you experienced even some of it, that is abuse.
AND, why don't you tell us the truth about what you believe about the U.S. I've read your Maria letters where she proclaims that Hurricane Katrina happened as a judgment of God on the U.S. because of bad publicity. How frickin arrogant can you get? Please, spare me the "we're so wonderful" rant.
If Maria could find it within herself to admit to HER AND BERG's (or father David or Grandpa Mo or whatever you call him now) mistakes of the past, then maybe we could all move on, but she won't because then she might lose her following. She is a pathetic person and you are rightly put in the spotlight, yes, you and your life, because you are willingly following her and defending her and her's and Peter's doctrines.
And maybe we could address the "individuals" responsible for the abuse if YOUR group didn't have them in hiding, constantly changing names and moving them around to different countries and usually in countries with no extradition treaties which makes it impossible to track them down. And why would The Family do that, you ask? Because they still believe in their Law of Love doctrine even if they can't practice all of it the way they would like.
Right - throw another one at me - right back at ya!
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