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October 4, 2005, 4:55 pm PDT
 Quote From: robinz I would assume that with your moralistic predicating you must of course be unselfishly assisting in Hurricane Katrina relief efforts. It's so easy to criticize the efforts of those who are investing their time and lives to help others, while doing absolutely nothing to make the world a better place or to help those in need. Over 50 Family members have been donating countless hours of their time in the aftermath of the Hurricane Katrina crisis and receiving no remuneration for their efforts other than the joy of serving another. What exactly have you invested in these efforts? When you get out and do something, that will give you the right to speak. Here's a quote for you:
"It's not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena‚ whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again because there is no effort without error and shortcomings; who knows the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at best knows in the end the high achievement of triumph, and who at worst, if he fails while daring greatly‚ knows his place shall never be with those timid and cold souls who know neither victory nor defeat."--Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919) Who is doing the moralistic preaching now? Your retort is presumptuous at best. How do you know that person is doing nothing to help? Why do I have the feeling that if you saw that I posted here that I was severely abused in the Family, you would assume similar things about me? You would be wrong, and many of us who are struggling to build lives have done whatever we could and sometimes what we shouldn't because it is a strain. If all Family members had regular jobs you could help with more material support and less of your religion that may or may not be wanted or needed.
I have a question for your leaders: where is the humanitarian aid to the survivors of your abuse? When they slip through the cracks, are you going to step up to the plate and pay for the cost to society of your nightmarish experiment? Probably not. The rest of us survivors will do what we can and the rest will be all of us taxpayers' burden. If you are going to fight fires, why refuse to help put out the fires you started? |
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October 5, 2005, 9:56 am PDT
Quote From: robinz I would assume that with your moralistic predicating you must of course be unselfishly assisting in Hurricane Katrina relief efforts. It's so easy to criticize the efforts of those who are investing their time and lives to help others, while doing absolutely nothing to make the world a better place or to help those in need. Over 50 Family members have been donating countless hours of their time in the aftermath of the Hurricane Katrina crisis and receiving no remuneration for their efforts other than the joy of serving another. What exactly have you invested in these efforts? When you get out and do something, that will give you the right to speak. Here's a quote for you:
"It's not the critic who counts, not the man who points out how the strong man stumbles or where the doer of deeds could have done them better. The credit belongs to the man who is actually in the arena‚ whose face is marred by dust and sweat and blood, who strives valiantly; who errs and comes short again and again because there is no effort without error and shortcomings; who knows the great devotion, who spends himself in a worthy cause; who at best knows in the end the high achievement of triumph, and who at worst, if he fails while daring greatly‚ knows his place shall never be with those timid and cold souls who know neither victory nor defeat."--Theodore Roosevelt (1858-1919) To April of Mike.
You addressed me. You asked me questions about what I am doing about Katrina. Does this mean you know want to have an online dialogue? If so, before I respond to you, I ask that you be so kind to respond to the two question I have already ask you on this board.
The first is whether you agree with Berg’s pro-pedophilia statement below.
The second is whether you subscribe to Berg’s anti-Semitic statements below.
After you answer these questions we can dialogue about Katrina. I have done Family “relief work.” I know the scam you guys run quite well. So answer me and we can have at it.
Coosa, MD.
April, this was written by your founder David Berg. Attached is a link to a original scan of the document. It seems to suggest that pedophilia is understandable if men are not getting sex from adult women. Care to comment? http://www.xfamily.org/documents/fam/ml/ml-1270.pdf From Family publication ANSWERS TO YOUR QUESTIONS!--NO.2 DO 1270 9/82 6. QUESTION: ALSO, WHAT DO YOU THINK ABOUT ADULT BRETHREN LUSTING SEXUALLY AFTER CHILDREN UNDER 10 YEARS OLD!--Francis & Summer Sonrise; USA (Note: We have received several letters from concerned parents re: "unapproved" sex with young children--without counsel or knowledge of parents, usually done by single brothers. Any comment? TY! Love, Sara D) ANSWER: I think we've said enough about this in the Letters. But it's sad if the poor single brothers have to resort to this because of obvious sexual deprivation by older sisters! David Berg
April, the following statements from your leader David Berg are virulently anti-Semitic. Do you agree with these statements of Berg's, and if so, how does that square with your claim of missionary work? Do you also share the belief that God is racist and anti-Semitic? Spoken by David Berg: "May God damn the God-damned Jews! My God, I think if I could get over there and had a gun I think I'd shoot 'em myself! My God damn them in Jesus' name! In Jesus' name, strike! Strike! Strike! God damn the Jews! Those Anti-Christ, Christ-hating Jews, God damn them! O God, if I had a gun I'd shoot them myself! God damn the Jews! God damn them, God damn them, God damn them, in Jesus' name! Damn the anti-Christ Jews! Damn them O God! God damn them!" ("A Prayer for the Poor!", 681:23,25,33,34,35,76) "And yet the Jews condemn Hitler for killing Jews! Well, now you know why Hitler wanted to kill'm all! The World would have been a lot better off without'm a long time ago!" ("The Beirut Massacre!", 1284:38) "'Ah, he's not only an anti-Semite, he's a racist!'--Yes, I'm an anti-Semite, because God is! Yes, I'm a racist, because God is!" ("The Troublemakers!--And the Solution!", 1222:110) David Berg
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