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October 5, 2005, 4:53 pm PDT
 Quote From: phillydee Personally, I don't want to get into a tit for tat argument over what has been said. I don't want to get into detail the accounts that took place in my life when my parents decided to place me and later my brother in public elementary school. I do not need to harp on the fact that my daughter is loved and cared for, and is in a perfectly safe environment. I also know and still know how much my sister, China, loves my daughter—and how much it would pain her to see my daughter get hurt or even taken away from us, she has told me this so many times. I also don't want to get into the fact that China told our uncle that she did not believe it was premeditated suicide that took my brother's life. We all know how much he loved us, and how he would never do anything to hurt us or our parents. How many times Mom had helped China through her difficult times of her marriage is uncountable. I do not and will not mud-sling my sister China whom I love dearly—in spite of the recent things that have been said about my personal family, my parents, and all of us in The Family International. After the tears, the hurt that this show has caused, I cannot help but say how much I still love China, and hope that one day she will be able to find peace in her heart. I believe in what I do, I am determined to go on despite opposition from in-laws of my personal family. I believe Christ had faced similar incidents and more—eventual death to accomplish his purpose for all of us. How much more must I do for him! I also know Christ set an example and precedence by saying, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do”. I also must, and have, forgiven China for her actions. I still pray for her daily and wish her the best of luck. Philly,
You say your sister's appearence on the show caused hurt and tears. Have you even stopped to think that the only reason she was on the show in the first place is because of the hurt that was caused her during her time in The Family? Or do you not believe her story? Do you believe she's lying?
Philly, this cycle of pain will only come to an end when your sister finds closure. You know that.
I'm sure you also know that you play a major part in that role. Only once you learn to understand why your sister feels the hurt that she does; only once you learn to acknowledge the pain she has been caused instead of piously and selfishly offering her little more than forgiveness; only once you acknowledge that the people whom you support with your hard-earned money every month played a major role in the abuses your sister experienced -- then and only then can your sister's healing process begin to be fully completed.
To forgive and forget is entirely optional and is not yours to demand of her. But I'm sure an intelligent guy like you knew that already.
BTW, have you ever considered that you might be the one who needs your sister's forgiveness because you "know not what you do"?
I would like some answers to those questions. I don't imagine you're the type to make a comment such as the one above and then disappear before you are called on it.
If you don't want to post your reply here, you can send it to me at stephan_schmidt AT usa DOT com.
Sincerely,
Stephan |
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October 5, 2005, 7:19 pm PDT
Quote From: phillydee Personally, I don't want to get into a tit for tat argument over what has been said. I don't want to get into detail the accounts that took place in my life when my parents decided to place me and later my brother in public elementary school. I do not need to harp on the fact that my daughter is loved and cared for, and is in a perfectly safe environment. I also know and still know how much my sister, China, loves my daughter—and how much it would pain her to see my daughter get hurt or even taken away from us, she has told me this so many times. I also don't want to get into the fact that China told our uncle that she did not believe it was premeditated suicide that took my brother's life. We all know how much he loved us, and how he would never do anything to hurt us or our parents. How many times Mom had helped China through her difficult times of her marriage is uncountable. I do not and will not mud-sling my sister China whom I love dearly—in spite of the recent things that have been said about my personal family, my parents, and all of us in The Family International. After the tears, the hurt that this show has caused, I cannot help but say how much I still love China, and hope that one day she will be able to find peace in her heart. I believe in what I do, I am determined to go on despite opposition from in-laws of my personal family. I believe Christ had faced similar incidents and more—eventual death to accomplish his purpose for all of us. How much more must I do for him! I also know Christ set an example and precedence by saying, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they do”. I also must, and have, forgiven China for her actions. I still pray for her daily and wish her the best of luck. I'm sorry - but that was just too sanctimonious for me. You equate this to Christ's sufferings? I don't think so - how arrogant. Once again, you are not going through any of this because of being a Christian. There are real Christians who really do die for their faith and that is not what this about. That's a lie put in place by your group's founders to keep you following no matter what. Hello???? You are suffering these things because of your group's poor actions in the lives of their own members. Many of us suffered incredible damage at the hands of your leaders and because of your doctrines and then you sit there and preach at us that you are on the same plane as Christ so it's all good? Might I remind you of the verse from Jesus himself about "what you have done to these little ones you have done to me" - you are not above the law and the law specifically requires that perpetrators be brought to justice and that would include your veritable Queen Maria. Her sexual actions with Ricky and her abusive punishments to Mene are enough proof right there, let alone what the permissive doctrines and victor camps did to the rest of the kids. Bring her to justice and then I will believe you that you are truly following Christ. Otherwise, it is all just hot air and guess what? God doesn't listen to hot air. |
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