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September 15, 2007, 6:11 pm PDT

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I happen to see Kyla on the Today show with her mother and attorney. Matt interviewed her for several minutes in a close up shot. She was then asked to stand up and show the "outfit" she was wearing on that fateful day. The outfit was nice, the skirt in my opinion was a bit short, but what bothered me, was when she sat down, you could see her underwear; perhaps this was the situation on the plane. Was a family exposed to her exposure, and in trying to protect someone's innocence, did they complain?

 

Kyla said to begin with, she just wanted an apology...but now they are contemplating whether or not to file a lawsuit....is this another situation where a child being told "no" throws a tantrum and we are going to give into that "fit" ???? Our society has become a "I can do what I want no matter what"....laws are blatantly broken and another attorney makes more money and a name for themselves by defending a wrong doing. We need to start thinking others "rights"  as much as we think about our own...it may change society a little.

What I want to know is why every time someone says they want an apology, there is a significant lawsuite behind it.  None of them care about the apology.  All they care about is the cash.  I think all these young girls look like street walkers.  If they want to send that message, that's their problem.  Just quit suing everyone that disagrees with you. 
 
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September 16, 2007, 5:03 am PDT

My rights, also

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I happen to see Kyla on the Today show with her mother and attorney. Matt interviewed her for several minutes in a close up shot. She was then asked to stand up and show the "outfit" she was wearing on that fateful day. The outfit was nice, the skirt in my opinion was a bit short, but what bothered me, was when she sat down, you could see her underwear; perhaps this was the situation on the plane. Was a family exposed to her exposure, and in trying to protect someone's innocence, did they complain?

 

Kyla said to begin with, she just wanted an apology...but now they are contemplating whether or not to file a lawsuit....is this another situation where a child being told "no" throws a tantrum and we are going to give into that "fit" ???? Our society has become a "I can do what I want no matter what"....laws are blatantly broken and another attorney makes more money and a name for themselves by defending a wrong doing. We need to start thinking others "rights"  as much as we think about our own...it may change society a little.

I agree with you about our rights. Why do we have to see someone else's underware (on other things) because she has a right to dress that way. I saw the Today show also and noticed they had to blurr her crotch area when she sat down. If they had to do that, then it was inappropiate. Why does a person need to wear a skirt that short anyway? What if it was a family who complained because they had to explain things to their children? Don't they have a right for their children to not have to see that? It's getting to a point where a family has no rights against the immoral or indecent.  

 

As far as the small child talking too much, I didn't hear the details about what exactly he was doing to disturb other people. I have been on flights with small children and they were the longest ever, because I had to listen to them cry, or run up and down the isle. When I took my 4 year old and 18 month old to Hawaii I did my research on traveling with children and brought plenty of toys and snacks to keep them occupied. I forced my 18 month old to have a pacifier to help with his ears popping and gave my 4 year old gum to chew. I had compliments about my childrens behavior, so I know children can behave on flights. It's up to the parents to control their behavior.

 
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September 16, 2007, 9:36 am PDT

Etiquette

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I happen to see Kyla on the Today show with her mother and attorney. Matt interviewed her for several minutes in a close up shot. She was then asked to stand up and show the "outfit" she was wearing on that fateful day. The outfit was nice, the skirt in my opinion was a bit short, but what bothered me, was when she sat down, you could see her underwear; perhaps this was the situation on the plane. Was a family exposed to her exposure, and in trying to protect someone's innocence, did they complain?

 

Kyla said to begin with, she just wanted an apology...but now they are contemplating whether or not to file a lawsuit....is this another situation where a child being told "no" throws a tantrum and we are going to give into that "fit" ???? Our society has become a "I can do what I want no matter what"....laws are blatantly broken and another attorney makes more money and a name for themselves by defending a wrong doing. We need to start thinking others "rights"  as much as we think about our own...it may change society a little.

I also saw Kyla on the Today Show and was appalled when she sat down and left nothing to the imagination.  That outfit may be fit for going to a club  or bar, but, was in no way appropriate for traveling on an airplane, or any other public transportation.  Her rights to show her stuff in her opinion does not supercede the rights of others that really don't want to look.  Give me a break, a lawsuit is a joke.  Maybe the situation could have been handled more discretely, but, I sincerely doubt she will be scarred for life.  Maybe it will make her think.  Hopefully, when she saw what she was showing on Today she'll rethink her wardrobe the next times she leaves her home.
 
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September 18, 2007, 12:46 pm PDT

09/18 Etiquette

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I happen to see Kyla on the Today show with her mother and attorney. Matt interviewed her for several minutes in a close up shot. She was then asked to stand up and show the "outfit" she was wearing on that fateful day. The outfit was nice, the skirt in my opinion was a bit short, but what bothered me, was when she sat down, you could see her underwear; perhaps this was the situation on the plane. Was a family exposed to her exposure, and in trying to protect someone's innocence, did they complain?

 

Kyla said to begin with, she just wanted an apology...but now they are contemplating whether or not to file a lawsuit....is this another situation where a child being told "no" throws a tantrum and we are going to give into that "fit" ???? Our society has become a "I can do what I want no matter what"....laws are blatantly broken and another attorney makes more money and a name for themselves by defending a wrong doing. We need to start thinking others "rights"  as much as we think about our own...it may change society a little.

You are so right.  Sounds like Kyla is looking to make a buck on this.  Please.....she took the tickets Southest Airlines gave her with a smile....then....she decided she didn't want them.  Her attorney should be ashamed for even considering a lawsuit.  This is as Dr Phil said "a waste of taxpayers money".  

Whenever I saw her on TV, I did change the channel, but I was able to hear on FOX news that she had a really hard time adjusting her skirt when she did stand up.  

This whole story is ridiculous and so over.  Do I think what happened to her was right??  NO...but, she got the apology she was wanting, now girl you need to move on. 

 
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September 18, 2007, 2:44 pm PDT

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I happen to see Kyla on the Today show with her mother and attorney. Matt interviewed her for several minutes in a close up shot. She was then asked to stand up and show the "outfit" she was wearing on that fateful day. The outfit was nice, the skirt in my opinion was a bit short, but what bothered me, was when she sat down, you could see her underwear; perhaps this was the situation on the plane. Was a family exposed to her exposure, and in trying to protect someone's innocence, did they complain?

 

Kyla said to begin with, she just wanted an apology...but now they are contemplating whether or not to file a lawsuit....is this another situation where a child being told "no" throws a tantrum and we are going to give into that "fit" ???? Our society has become a "I can do what I want no matter what"....laws are blatantly broken and another attorney makes more money and a name for themselves by defending a wrong doing. We need to start thinking others "rights"  as much as we think about our own...it may change society a little.

Dr. Phil missed it on this one.  I also saw the today show interview.  I too saw that when she sat down she was clearly wearing white underwear.  There was a CLEAR view of her crotch.  Also, when she tried to cross her legs, the "skirt" rode up so high as to expose half of her buttocks.  I would have been offended were I forced to fly with her.  I also saw a different photo of her "outfit" taken at the airline/airport.  Her tank top was pulled down to just above the nipple in that photo, and her skirt was pulled up to just below her crotch.  Just because she pulls her top up and skirt down to make it appear more decent on her interviews doesn't mean she was dressed appropriately at the time.  If I had a child, or husband even, on that flight, I would have complained. 

I think it is a sad commentary on our society that people would defend this woman, and that she be able to sue an airline over dressing like a prostitute and offending other paying passengers.  Why doesn't she feel embarrassed or ashamed of her behavior?  If I had worn a skirt so small I inadvertently showed my panties (and possibly some of my butt cheeks as well) to a airplane full of people or a national audience on the Today show, I would be humiliated!  Not indignant!  And I don't feel you have a right to sue a company for asking you to stop showing your goods to the rest of their customers.  I mean go work at the Bunny Ranch, they'll love you there. 

I am frequently disgusted by what passes for acceptable attire these days.  Not that I am a prude, but my husband and I have been to some very nice restaurants and they allow people in wearing sweat pants, athletic suits, ratty jean shorts and flip flops.  Everywhere I go I see some girl or woman in pajama pants in public.  Just today I saw a young girl getting off of a school bus wearing pajama pants.  Who lets their children go to school dressed like that? I think it is dispicable that people can not bother to throw on a decent pair of jeans or slacks to go out to a restaurant.  There doesn't seem to be any standards anymore.
 
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September 18, 2007, 5:33 pm PDT

Kyla is wrong!

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I happen to see Kyla on the Today show with her mother and attorney. Matt interviewed her for several minutes in a close up shot. She was then asked to stand up and show the "outfit" she was wearing on that fateful day. The outfit was nice, the skirt in my opinion was a bit short, but what bothered me, was when she sat down, you could see her underwear; perhaps this was the situation on the plane. Was a family exposed to her exposure, and in trying to protect someone's innocence, did they complain?

 

Kyla said to begin with, she just wanted an apology...but now they are contemplating whether or not to file a lawsuit....is this another situation where a child being told "no" throws a tantrum and we are going to give into that "fit" ???? Our society has become a "I can do what I want no matter what"....laws are blatantly broken and another attorney makes more money and a name for themselves by defending a wrong doing. We need to start thinking others "rights"  as much as we think about our own...it may change society a little.

I quickly glanced through what everyone is saying about Kyla on Dr. Phil's show today (I TiVo so I just finished watching it!)  I also saw Kyla, LIVE, on the Today show the other day and I was shocked and appaled at her outfit!  Let me also say this:  I am 23 and I CAN pull off an outfit like that.  When she sat down and I saw her underwear, I was in disbelief!  Of course she was asked to cover up!!!  I would not want to see that, I am sure this "family friendly" airline did not want their passengers to see it either!  I wonder if it was actually another passenger that complained about her and that is what caused all of this. 

Kyla, you NEED to get over yourself!!!  You got your appology and your 15 minutes of fame!  Drop it already! 
 
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September 18, 2007, 7:41 pm PDT

This is beyond ridiculous

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I happen to see Kyla on the Today show with her mother and attorney. Matt interviewed her for several minutes in a close up shot. She was then asked to stand up and show the "outfit" she was wearing on that fateful day. The outfit was nice, the skirt in my opinion was a bit short, but what bothered me, was when she sat down, you could see her underwear; perhaps this was the situation on the plane. Was a family exposed to her exposure, and in trying to protect someone's innocence, did they complain?

 

Kyla said to begin with, she just wanted an apology...but now they are contemplating whether or not to file a lawsuit....is this another situation where a child being told "no" throws a tantrum and we are going to give into that "fit" ???? Our society has become a "I can do what I want no matter what"....laws are blatantly broken and another attorney makes more money and a name for themselves by defending a wrong doing. We need to start thinking others "rights"  as much as we think about our own...it may change society a little.

I don't know how old this girl is, but she is acting like a spoiled rotten rich bratty kid that was thwarted from her actions, and pitched a two-year-old fit.  The apology from Southwest Airlines was very nicely sufficient, the gifts that were given to her by Southwest were very nice, and especially from Virgin Airlines.   Now what's she gonna do if Virgin "hurts her feelings"?   Her attorney should be run out of town, and she should be smacked upside the head and asked "WHAT ARE YOU THINKING?"  I hope if this ever even makes it to a courtroom, the judge will have enough "cojones" to laugh himself senseless while he throws this suit of stupidity out of the court.  This "girl" needs to get over it, grow up and get on.
 
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September 19, 2007, 10:20 am PDT

I agree with all of the ones responding to this

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I happen to see Kyla on the Today show with her mother and attorney. Matt interviewed her for several minutes in a close up shot. She was then asked to stand up and show the "outfit" she was wearing on that fateful day. The outfit was nice, the skirt in my opinion was a bit short, but what bothered me, was when she sat down, you could see her underwear; perhaps this was the situation on the plane. Was a family exposed to her exposure, and in trying to protect someone's innocence, did they complain?

 

Kyla said to begin with, she just wanted an apology...but now they are contemplating whether or not to file a lawsuit....is this another situation where a child being told "no" throws a tantrum and we are going to give into that "fit" ???? Our society has become a "I can do what I want no matter what"....laws are blatantly broken and another attorney makes more money and a name for themselves by defending a wrong doing. We need to start thinking others "rights"  as much as we think about our own...it may change society a little.

I have read all of the responses to this post.
I agree 100% with you.
I also saw her on the talk show and saw that they had to blank her out when she crossed her legs.
I think that we have too much news on things that are not newsworthy.
People only want the attention and when they get that, they want a lawsuit.
I am glad that Dr. Phil called her on her change of heart.
 
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September 19, 2007, 12:11 pm PDT

09/18 Etiquette

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I happen to see Kyla on the Today show with her mother and attorney. Matt interviewed her for several minutes in a close up shot. She was then asked to stand up and show the "outfit" she was wearing on that fateful day. The outfit was nice, the skirt in my opinion was a bit short, but what bothered me, was when she sat down, you could see her underwear; perhaps this was the situation on the plane. Was a family exposed to her exposure, and in trying to protect someone's innocence, did they complain?

 

Kyla said to begin with, she just wanted an apology...but now they are contemplating whether or not to file a lawsuit....is this another situation where a child being told "no" throws a tantrum and we are going to give into that "fit" ???? Our society has become a "I can do what I want no matter what"....laws are blatantly broken and another attorney makes more money and a name for themselves by defending a wrong doing. We need to start thinking others "rights"  as much as we think about our own...it may change society a little.

I disagree with you with the baby situation.  That flight was delayed 11 hrs.  That is a long time for anyone especially a child to be in an airport.  I do agree with you about giving into "fits" however according to the mom and another passenger this child was doing normal 2yr old things. 

 
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September 19, 2007, 2:15 pm PDT

flashing underwear

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I happen to see Kyla on the Today show with her mother and attorney. Matt interviewed her for several minutes in a close up shot. She was then asked to stand up and show the "outfit" she was wearing on that fateful day. The outfit was nice, the skirt in my opinion was a bit short, but what bothered me, was when she sat down, you could see her underwear; perhaps this was the situation on the plane. Was a family exposed to her exposure, and in trying to protect someone's innocence, did they complain?

 

Kyla said to begin with, she just wanted an apology...but now they are contemplating whether or not to file a lawsuit....is this another situation where a child being told "no" throws a tantrum and we are going to give into that "fit" ???? Our society has become a "I can do what I want no matter what"....laws are blatantly broken and another attorney makes more money and a name for themselves by defending a wrong doing. We need to start thinking others "rights"  as much as we think about our own...it may change society a little.

I saw the same show and this was exactly my thought.  If we all saw her underwear on national TV, I can't blame the people on Southwest, probably flying with their children, for complaining about her.  Her and her mother should be embarrassed that this happened and apologizing to the people on Southwest, not going on TV.  SHAME
 


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