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October 6, 2005, 1:03 pm PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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I didn't "dogg" anyone I stated a simple fact I it is CRUEL to make those who bottle fed their babies feel responsible for the death of their children.  Does it not occur to you that they're reading these boards?  Is this you're way of comforting them too?  & I'll add that I think it is CRUEL to suggest that mothers of bottle fed babies are just recklessly leaving them at risk.   I'm not sticking my head in the sand or ignoring what the reality of things are.  To say that breast milk is always fresh, and  always available even in a disaster is enough to survice don't you think?!  We can also go on to say all of the wonderful things that we give our babies when breast feeding with out adding "AND why some poor babies whose moms feed them formula starve"  well aren't they just abusive?  This is what it sounds like you're implying & we don't have to get mean do we?  You say you don't want to come off as judgemental but that's exactly how you come off.  You sound as thought this is "as much a personal choice for myself as for my son"  and if others make a personal choice for themselves that doesn't fit your criteria of what is correct they are somhow irresponsible!  Even a parent who's breast feeding & supplementing you have to try to make feel bad about her choice because it's not what you decided &/or as good as your decision?  We're not all as perfect as you honey and yes this has everything to do with making others feel guilt.  I mean after all they're not trying to "promote health in babies and moms" so I guess the rest of us are not?   

  

I don't need to read the research I'd done that long ago & life does not always follow the "research"  I'm not going to sit here & argue the points of pro & con to breast feeding.  This would serve no purpose but to upset people but just the same you don't need to make those who are not breast feeding feel inferior & do it in such a mean spirited way.       

I just don't get it. I could really care less what someone on this message board thinks of me and whether or not you ASSUME I judge you for your personal choices doesn't matter. I don't judge anyone. Rather I am trying to point out the facts. Women who choose nursing and later formula because of all the problems that they encounter DESERVE to have answers on how these problems are addressed and solved. And so does anyone else reading this board. Don't get mad at me, if you feel guilty it must be because you wanted to nurse but couldn't. I am simply trying to help prevent women from feeling bad in the first place by pointing out how to solve these problems before they give up. No I don't see this as a personal failure, I see it as a choice made in the mother and child's interest- but a disappointing one, since many of these problems are solvable and often the solutions are simpler than you think. Sometimes it's hard to get the support you need in the midst of a bottle feeding society. 

  

Pain while nursing:  

often caused by improper latch and suckling technique, can be  a sign that the baby won't get enough milk and needs to be addressed ASAP so baby can stay hydrated as milk supply is getting established. To help this please see an IBCLC or your ped., or call LLL or look for more video instructions online, such as at http://www.thebirthden.com/Newman.html 

  

Dehydration, baby losing weight: 

 normal after birth from lots of fluid retention in utero being flushed out of baby's body, can also be caused by improper latch, not nursing often enough, mother being exhausted and milk not coming down due to stress. It takes a while for milk to come in. If you have an epidural and sometimes if you have a c-section it takes much longer.   Must be solved by frequent nursing to stimulate milk production. There will be colostrum until your milk comes in, mine took almost 4 days. Do not use supplements if you want to build your milk supply. If you do use supplements and later stop using them, baby will lose some weight as your body catches up with the supply, but then will gain back and be fine. 

  

Do not give glucose water or formula while trying to establish nursing. Nurse on cue, and at least every 1-2 hours. The only way I was able to do this without sleep deprivation was cosleeping. Others may be different. 

 


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