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September 20, 2007, 2:24 pm PDT

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 This is the first time that ive ever felt the need to write on dr phils message board, but James pissed me off so much that i needed to vent.  As a korean woman, James is the exact reason as to why i choose NOT to date within my racial group.  I am currently dating a black man and have been for the past 2 years and its been the best decision of my life so far.  James is a perfect "Asian Stereotype" of being "intelligently superior" wanting to make his wife a sexual slave and not wanting to make her an equal in his life.  I was disgusted by his ignorance and i hope he can learn to be uncontrolling, especially for the sake of his son. 


Sigh!

 

Uhh, aren't black men stereotyped as being aggressive, womanizers/cheaters/players, prone to violence and criminality, etc. - stereotypes which, I'm sure, you would agree are unfair.

 

But ironically, it seems YOU have no problem stereotyping Asian or Korean males (how do you feel about people who stereotype Asian females as being exotic, submissive sex kittens?).

 

Keep in mind, the other main stereotype about Asian males is totally the OPPOSITE - that they are weak, effeminate and not "macho" enough.

 

So which is it?  (Unfortunately, people such as yourself believe in either stereotypes due to their own inherent biases). 

 

I guess there is (according to you) - no such thing  as a "normal", balanced Asian male.

 

I think you need to work on your own ignorance.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 
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October 3, 2007, 8:35 am PDT

Race vs Culture vs Attitudes

Quote From: kmulren

 This is the first time that ive ever felt the need to write on dr phils message board, but James pissed me off so much that i needed to vent.  As a korean woman, James is the exact reason as to why i choose NOT to date within my racial group.  I am currently dating a black man and have been for the past 2 years and its been the best decision of my life so far.  James is a perfect "Asian Stereotype" of being "intelligently superior" wanting to make his wife a sexual slave and not wanting to make her an equal in his life.  I was disgusted by his ignorance and i hope he can learn to be uncontrolling, especially for the sake of his son. 


Seems more like a attitued issue then a race issue. People from other cultures have different values and dating expectations, and they can take a long time to overcome. Lots of cultures believe women inferior, and bring their attitudes to their new home. I know a guy I worked with who was Chinese and said more then once he would never marry a western born Asian woman, because they did not know how to be good wives. So it goes for the women too, they are raised to know their place in context to the culture.

 

Sexist pigs come from all over. I am white, and have dated Asian men who where dominating pigs and others who were as modern as I am. Guess who I dumped real fast and who got a second date? In my experience even second generation males can have a bunch of old world ideas about a woman's role, but it is not a hard rule. BTW the most sexist jerk I ever had the misfortune of dating was a black man who showed his true feelings over time, so there you go, pigs come in all colours. His dad was probably sexist and him mom probably put up with it,  so it went to the next generation. Race had nothing to do with it. Date whom you like, but it is not a problem of race but of attitude and that goes far deeper then your skin. There is a whole side of my family who is Japanese American who have been in the US for three generations now. None of my Asian or half Asian male cousins have the opinions James holds, because they were raised with modern western ideas, but in Japan there are plenty of men who think women should serve their men. There are also lots of men who's families have lived in the US since the Mayflower that think women are servants and slaves to their husbands, so limiting one race or ethnic group doesn't make sense to me. It is not only Korean culture that has these problems, and not all fit the stereotype.

 

I am glad you found a good man whatever his race and hope it lasts, but give Asian American men a chance as individuals. You will see very quickly who is sexist and superior and who isn't. Don't pre-judge all Korean men or Asian men generally, because it will affect you in more ways then dating, like people you work with, are just friends with ect. If your daughter one day brings home a Korean guy, give him a chance to prove you wrong about your past experiences. Your right to worry about James' son, growing up with his dad will make life harder for him if he adopts the same ideas about women. He will never know the joys of a loving relationship with an equal and a partner.

 


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