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October 2, 2007, 3:45 am PDT

10/04 Secrets in the Suburbs

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Quote by ceildh1: " (although I don't get why you would get married if you don't "DO" Monogomy)." -End quote Swinging is different for many different people. But for some people, myself included, it is simply something we are doing together. It's not that I am having sex with other people. WE are having sex with other people. It's a shared experience. That being said, I have a monogamous relationship with my wife in an emotional aspect. And sex with her is truly unique because of that. But expanding the non-emotional aspect of our sexlife up with other people is quite different. I expect to see people come onto this show and have difficulties with swinging because their marriage wasn't sound to begin with. They were looking into swinging as a possible cure for a problem, or perhaps looking for something their relationship didn't provide. It's sad really, because those are the completely wrong reasons to get into the lifestyle. Stability first, and remember to always go back to a typical marriage at the onset of problems.

Thank You, really you explained it well for me.

Like I said, not a choice I would make for myself, but that's me and what goes on at my neighbor's homes

or within their marriage, is none of my business.

How do you explain it to your kids ? I think that comes up in any family that dosen't fit the "Social Norms",

My husband and I (legal union in my neck of the woods ) never did the ceremony or signing the paper, but we've been together 18 years, how did we explain it ? HONESTLY  and I think that's true of many non traditional families.

What I took issue with was the second guest who involves his son in the bullying of his wife for a threesome, there are some things that kids don't NEED to know.

 
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January 19, 2008, 12:56 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

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Quote by ceildh1: " (although I don't get why you would get married if you don't "DO" Monogomy)." -End quote Swinging is different for many different people. But for some people, myself included, it is simply something we are doing together. It's not that I am having sex with other people. WE are having sex with other people. It's a shared experience. That being said, I have a monogamous relationship with my wife in an emotional aspect. And sex with her is truly unique because of that. But expanding the non-emotional aspect of our sexlife up with other people is quite different. I expect to see people come onto this show and have difficulties with swinging because their marriage wasn't sound to begin with. They were looking into swinging as a possible cure for a problem, or perhaps looking for something their relationship didn't provide. It's sad really, because those are the completely wrong reasons to get into the lifestyle. Stability first, and remember to always go back to a typical marriage at the onset of problems.

Before you were married did you and your wife discuss swinging and both agree that you would do it?

 

For my husband and me, swinging will never be something that we will do. We've been married close to 34 years. It's just not the way we are. I try to be  open minded about things but this is something I will never understand. I have been surprised to hear through the grapevine over the years that even in our small country county, there are couples who swing. I don't personally know anyone who has ever admitted to it. It is probably everywhere.

 
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January 19, 2008, 7:28 pm PST

01/25 Secrets in the Suburbs

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Quote by ceildh1: " (although I don't get why you would get married if you don't "DO" Monogomy)." -End quote Swinging is different for many different people. But for some people, myself included, it is simply something we are doing together. It's not that I am having sex with other people. WE are having sex with other people. It's a shared experience. That being said, I have a monogamous relationship with my wife in an emotional aspect. And sex with her is truly unique because of that. But expanding the non-emotional aspect of our sexlife up with other people is quite different. I expect to see people come onto this show and have difficulties with swinging because their marriage wasn't sound to begin with. They were looking into swinging as a possible cure for a problem, or perhaps looking for something their relationship didn't provide. It's sad really, because those are the completely wrong reasons to get into the lifestyle. Stability first, and remember to always go back to a typical marriage at the onset of problems.
Say what you must to validate your sick addiction. Some people steal, some people rape, some people swing, some people molest kids some people cheat on their spouse. All will say it feels right. Wrong is wrong!! Sugar coating it doesn't change that. In what state, province or country does it say in the wedding vows to have and to hold everything that moves?? You are to become one with each other ,not the world. By saying that everyone involved is in agreement with what's happening, just means that you all are needy, risk taking, attension seekers that are emotionally disfunctional. You are not responsible or disciplined enough to live like grown ups.
 
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January 23, 2008, 10:31 pm PST

Secrets in the Suburbs

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Quote by ceildh1: " (although I don't get why you would get married if you don't "DO" Monogomy)." -End quote Swinging is different for many different people. But for some people, myself included, it is simply something we are doing together. It's not that I am having sex with other people. WE are having sex with other people. It's a shared experience. That being said, I have a monogamous relationship with my wife in an emotional aspect. And sex with her is truly unique because of that. But expanding the non-emotional aspect of our sexlife up with other people is quite different. I expect to see people come onto this show and have difficulties with swinging because their marriage wasn't sound to begin with. They were looking into swinging as a possible cure for a problem, or perhaps looking for something their relationship didn't provide. It's sad really, because those are the completely wrong reasons to get into the lifestyle. Stability first, and remember to always go back to a typical marriage at the onset of problems.

 

To MrTruelove

However people validate their sexual lusting its nothing more than creative self delusion at best. Most people were brought up to believe that sex is a gift to be shared between a husband and his wife. To share it with others devalues the act into something that has lost its beauty. It's no longer special.

"...keep thee only unto him/her"? There's a reason that line is in there.

I'm curious. Without being crude, can you tell me, do you, as the man, share yourself with other men? Or is it only other women? Does it bother you that he may please her more than you can? Do you ever fear that she may find herself yearning for him and not you? Is it possible that she may have these same fears about you? Are you sure?

I know of a couple who tried a threesome with a female friend. Later, because of the implied freedom , the husband enjoyed an oral sex act with another female in the kiddy's wading pool, unknown to his wife, while she entertained friends in the living room. When he was caught in the act her anger genuinely surprised him. Their marriage went downhill after that. Hearts were broken, trust was lost, the kids lost their father, the family unit disintegrated.

I can't say that this will happen to everyone who plays this game, (and it is a game) but the chance of keeping the trust alive in the marriage is not good. Once that line is crossed and either one has sex with someone else without the other partner's permission or knowledge, the marriage is over. And, that WILL happen sooner or later. The 'implied' sexual freedom is too hard to resist.

No matter how good you think your marriage bond is now, under the surface lies a subconscious fear that 'she' or 'he' will never be able to satisfy the other's sexual needs. This opens up another can of worms that you will never again be able to put the lid on . As they say, "curiosity killed the cat". And, anyone curious enough to want to play this game should first consider if its worth losing the ones you love.

There's also the dangers involved. What dangers you ask? It is well known that multiple partners increase a women's chances of getting cervical cancer. Also, there's the increased chances of STD's, not to mention the danger of 'romantic attachments' being formed which can lead to stalking or worse.

You may think your relationship is on solid ground, (and, it may be) but what about the possibility of emotional illnesses in the people you engage in this game with? Can you guarantee their mental stability? A lack of emotional/mental well-being can and will endanger you or/and your wife? (Heaven forbid anything should happen to the children!!!)

It has been estimated that 1 in 25 people is a sociopath/psychopath. These individuals have no conscience. They can blend into society and go unnoticed like a camelian. They will go to extreme lengths to get what they want, not caring who they hurt. That attractive blond, that muscular beefcake, both can make anyone lust after them. But, add mental illness and a fixation for the husband (or the wife) and you may wake one night to find muscle man looming over you as you sleep with malicious intent. Check out the info on this link to see if you may know a sociopathic person: http://www.takebackyourheart.com/

I believe poor Renee (THE FOCUS OF THIS SUBJECT) might be married to a sociopath/psychopath. Brent does not appear to feel the compassion necessary to insure a happy marriage and is only concerned for his own desires. Renee should seek self awareness to understand why she feels it necessary to forgo her own happiness for that of her selfish, self serving husband. Only then will she find the strength to stand up for herself.

This long palaver was not meant to change your behavior. I doubt anything anyone says can do that. Not until you find out for yourself the hard way will the 'game' lose it's appeal.

However, hopefully, there are others out there that may be thinking of playing this game without completely knowing the rules or considering the consequences. Perhaps now they will think twice before starting something that may ruin their lives. Be careful. Momentary pleasures may produce never ending nightmares.

God Bless you and Enlighten you to a better way of loving.

 
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January 25, 2008, 2:53 pm PST

Are you on Crack? LOLOLOL!!

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Quote by ceildh1: " (although I don't get why you would get married if you don't "DO" Monogomy)." -End quote Swinging is different for many different people. But for some people, myself included, it is simply something we are doing together. It's not that I am having sex with other people. WE are having sex with other people. It's a shared experience. That being said, I have a monogamous relationship with my wife in an emotional aspect. And sex with her is truly unique because of that. But expanding the non-emotional aspect of our sexlife up with other people is quite different. I expect to see people come onto this show and have difficulties with swinging because their marriage wasn't sound to begin with. They were looking into swinging as a possible cure for a problem, or perhaps looking for something their relationship didn't provide. It's sad really, because those are the completely wrong reasons to get into the lifestyle. Stability first, and remember to always go back to a typical marriage at the onset of problems.
If your marriage is healthy and stable, you would never need to go outside your marriage for gratification. What you said make no sense at all.
 


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