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October 7, 2005, 7:17 am PDT

What hate? What pain?

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 Well, if you got all the proof  than what are you waiting for?

What exactly does it help for you and all those like you to spread your hate and pain?

Clearly, leocon, you have no idea of how the law works. I can have all the evidence I want, if I can't get the legal name and location of the person I'm accusing, then I don't have much of a chance of subpoenaing him or her, do I? Thus far, The Family has refused to help provide that information. 

  

Furthermore, if I am in the US and my abuser is in some country in Africa and I was abused in Switzerland, how easy do you think it is to get a date in court? 

  

You have no idea how much power you and your Family peers have in your hands to bring closure to your peers outside of the group. Stop and think about that one for a minute. 

  

You ask, "What exactly does it help for you and all those like you to spread your hate and pain?" 

  

What hate? I hate no one. It's not my style. I do, however, wish to see justice served. I do not have to hate a person to know that their actions are criminal. 

  

Secondly, what pain am I spreading? Show me one person that I have personally hurt in my quest for justice and I will immediately do my best to make amends to the best of my ability. Show me one person that was abused through my personal actions in this matter. 

  

I think you forget completely that I used to be just like you not very long ago. I used to be just as arrogant towards ex-members. I used to be just as callous to their pain. I used to defend the Family's past in the exact same way you are doing now. In time I found out I was wrong. Believe me, that was not an easy thing to admit. 

  

I dare you, leocon, to sit down with any one of the people that the Family has called "vitriolic apostates" (pick one) and listen--no talking, just listening--to the stories of their experiences. After they are done, I want you to look them in the eye and tell them they are lying, exaggerating and/or dellusional--that they sound convincing, but are just trying to destroy your faith and cause you doubts. 

  

I bet you that you will not be able to. 

 
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October 7, 2005, 7:19 am PDT

Just a guess.....

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 Well, if you got all the proof  than what are you waiting for?

What exactly does it help for you and all those like you to spread your hate and pain?

But I think what they are waiting for is the legal names and current locations of those accused, so they can be faced with their crimes and the whole matter dealt with fairly and finally.  

  

And what does it help? Seems to me they are just bringing the "hate and pain" as you call it,  back to where it originated.  Requiring the perpetrators to see the fallout of thier experiments, and be held responsible for it. That is very healing to victims. So I'd encourage all current family youth who have no recollection of this past horror to encourage their elders to step forward and take the heat for the "hate and pain"  they created.  

 
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October 7, 2005, 7:19 am PDT

I forgot to say...

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 Well, if you got all the proof  than what are you waiting for?

What exactly does it help for you and all those like you to spread your hate and pain?

BTW, you haven't answered my question: 

  

Do you believe they [the ex-members who are speaking out] were abused or do you not? 

 


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