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October 8, 2005, 8:29 am PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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Rude people are everywhere, including women who insist on baring their breasts in public on the flimsy excuse that they are breast-feeding, not giving a damn about kindness or respect for others. During my pediatric internship, I found that the women who refuse to show discretion when breast feeding in public are almost always small breasted when their breasts are not engorged with milk, and feel insecure/inhibited sexually. They use the excuse of breast feeding to show off their breasts in public because they can convince themselves that it this is a morally, if not socially, acceptable way to show off their new, bigger breasts. Those who are emotionally and sexually secure, and endorse public breast feeding do it with respect and modesty, acklowledging and respecting that some natural acts are not meant to be done with no restraint in public places, and acknowledging that the breast IS a sexual object, NOT just a source of food for infants. My compassion goes out to the women who are so psychologically challenged , they need to hide behind and use their babies to become sexual exhibitionists. There are plenty of socially acceptable venues to do that, and family restaurants are NOT socially acceptable venues. Farting and belching are equally natural parts of eating for all people, not just babies, and thank goodness most people are kind and respectful and don't just "let one rip" while they are eating in public, simple because it's natural process to pass gas from both ends while eating.    

  

Joy, M.D. 

Kudos to you Joy!!!  You hit the nail right in the head.  I strongly recommend all of the women who breastfeed in public(the ones that have no consideration for others, that is) to read this woman's message because sadly enough the vast majority of it is true.  If you want to be an exhibitionist then don't use your child as a reason to do so.  The best thing about this post is that it came from a doctor's point of view! 

  

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October 8, 2005, 9:56 am PDT

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Rude people are everywhere, including women who insist on baring their breasts in public on the flimsy excuse that they are breast-feeding, not giving a damn about kindness or respect for others. During my pediatric internship, I found that the women who refuse to show discretion when breast feeding in public are almost always small breasted when their breasts are not engorged with milk, and feel insecure/inhibited sexually. They use the excuse of breast feeding to show off their breasts in public because they can convince themselves that it this is a morally, if not socially, acceptable way to show off their new, bigger breasts. Those who are emotionally and sexually secure, and endorse public breast feeding do it with respect and modesty, acklowledging and respecting that some natural acts are not meant to be done with no restraint in public places, and acknowledging that the breast IS a sexual object, NOT just a source of food for infants. My compassion goes out to the women who are so psychologically challenged , they need to hide behind and use their babies to become sexual exhibitionists. There are plenty of socially acceptable venues to do that, and family restaurants are NOT socially acceptable venues. Farting and belching are equally natural parts of eating for all people, not just babies, and thank goodness most people are kind and respectful and don't just "let one rip" while they are eating in public, simple because it's natural process to pass gas from both ends while eating.    

  

Joy, M.D. 

Oh my goodness!  You are so far off base here.  Breastfeeding mothers don't need to nurse their babies to bare their breasts.  If that's what we wanted, we could simply choose skimpy clothes.  You'll see a lot more exposed flesh from a woman in a tube top than you'll see from a breastfeeding mother. 

  

My compassion goes out to your patients who have a doctor who cares so little for the health of children.  As a doctor, you should be encouraging mothers to breastfeed for the health of the babies.    

 
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October 8, 2005, 11:21 am PDT

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Rude people are everywhere, including women who insist on baring their breasts in public on the flimsy excuse that they are breast-feeding, not giving a damn about kindness or respect for others. During my pediatric internship, I found that the women who refuse to show discretion when breast feeding in public are almost always small breasted when their breasts are not engorged with milk, and feel insecure/inhibited sexually. They use the excuse of breast feeding to show off their breasts in public because they can convince themselves that it this is a morally, if not socially, acceptable way to show off their new, bigger breasts. Those who are emotionally and sexually secure, and endorse public breast feeding do it with respect and modesty, acklowledging and respecting that some natural acts are not meant to be done with no restraint in public places, and acknowledging that the breast IS a sexual object, NOT just a source of food for infants. My compassion goes out to the women who are so psychologically challenged , they need to hide behind and use their babies to become sexual exhibitionists. There are plenty of socially acceptable venues to do that, and family restaurants are NOT socially acceptable venues. Farting and belching are equally natural parts of eating for all people, not just babies, and thank goodness most people are kind and respectful and don't just "let one rip" while they are eating in public, simple because it's natural process to pass gas from both ends while eating.    

  

Joy, M.D. 

I hope I never have the misforturne to take one of my children to a doc like you.  I've actually been thanked by the docs for breastfeeding in their waiting room because they want the low income patients they have to understand that it is natural and that they don't have to resort to formula.  And BTW, I don't have small breasts that I'm happy are swelled from milk.  My dream for when I'm done with my child bearing is to have the dang things reduced!  Besides, once you get past the first couple of months of breastfeeding engorgement isn't much of an issue anyway. 

  

Perhaps you are fixated with breasts as sexual objects.  I guarantee  you that most breastfeeding mothers will tell you that their breasts have become strictly functional objects for them.  If your fixation with breasts as sexual objects is causing you distress perhaps you should stay home to do your eating.   

 
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October 8, 2005, 1:14 pm PDT

Are you kidding me!!!!!

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Rude people are everywhere, including women who insist on baring their breasts in public on the flimsy excuse that they are breast-feeding, not giving a damn about kindness or respect for others. During my pediatric internship, I found that the women who refuse to show discretion when breast feeding in public are almost always small breasted when their breasts are not engorged with milk, and feel insecure/inhibited sexually. They use the excuse of breast feeding to show off their breasts in public because they can convince themselves that it this is a morally, if not socially, acceptable way to show off their new, bigger breasts. Those who are emotionally and sexually secure, and endorse public breast feeding do it with respect and modesty, acklowledging and respecting that some natural acts are not meant to be done with no restraint in public places, and acknowledging that the breast IS a sexual object, NOT just a source of food for infants. My compassion goes out to the women who are so psychologically challenged , they need to hide behind and use their babies to become sexual exhibitionists. There are plenty of socially acceptable venues to do that, and family restaurants are NOT socially acceptable venues. Farting and belching are equally natural parts of eating for all people, not just babies, and thank goodness most people are kind and respectful and don't just "let one rip" while they are eating in public, simple because it's natural process to pass gas from both ends while eating.    

  

Joy, M.D. 

"Dr. Joy",  

  

I can't believe what I just read?  I think you are in desperate need of Psychiatric help if you actually believe what you wrote!  It's totally absurd to talk about breast feeding mothers being psychologically challenged and being sexual exhibitionists?  I can't even go on, I am just so appalled that a Medical Doctor would admit to feeling the way you do about breast feeding.  You have some major issues that you obviously need to deal with.  It is scary to think that you are treating patients?   

 
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October 8, 2005, 1:25 pm PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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Rude people are everywhere, including women who insist on baring their breasts in public on the flimsy excuse that they are breast-feeding, not giving a damn about kindness or respect for others. During my pediatric internship, I found that the women who refuse to show discretion when breast feeding in public are almost always small breasted when their breasts are not engorged with milk, and feel insecure/inhibited sexually. They use the excuse of breast feeding to show off their breasts in public because they can convince themselves that it this is a morally, if not socially, acceptable way to show off their new, bigger breasts. Those who are emotionally and sexually secure, and endorse public breast feeding do it with respect and modesty, acklowledging and respecting that some natural acts are not meant to be done with no restraint in public places, and acknowledging that the breast IS a sexual object, NOT just a source of food for infants. My compassion goes out to the women who are so psychologically challenged , they need to hide behind and use their babies to become sexual exhibitionists. There are plenty of socially acceptable venues to do that, and family restaurants are NOT socially acceptable venues. Farting and belching are equally natural parts of eating for all people, not just babies, and thank goodness most people are kind and respectful and don't just "let one rip" while they are eating in public, simple because it's natural process to pass gas from both ends while eating.    

  

Joy, M.D. 

A Quote From the American Academy of Pediatrics: 

  

"Human milk is species-specific, and all substitute feeding preparations differ markedly from it, making human milk uniquely superior for infant feeding.12 Exclusive breastfeeding is the reference or normative model against which all alternative feeding methods must be measured with regard to growth, health, development, and all other short- and long-term outcomes. In addition, human milk-fed premature infants receive significant benefits with respect to host protection and improved developmental outcomes compared with formula-fed premature infants.1322 From studies in preterm and term infants, the following outcomes have been documented" 

  

Or, read the entire study here: http://aappolicy.aappublications.org/cgi/content/full/pediatrics;115/2/496 

  

By being opposed to breastfeeding you are going against all medical schools of thought, knowledge and facts. You should have your license revoked for the ignorance you just spouted. Doctor or not, you're an idiot. 

 
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October 9, 2005, 12:19 pm PDT

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Quote From: dr_joy

Rude people are everywhere, including women who insist on baring their breasts in public on the flimsy excuse that they are breast-feeding, not giving a damn about kindness or respect for others. During my pediatric internship, I found that the women who refuse to show discretion when breast feeding in public are almost always small breasted when their breasts are not engorged with milk, and feel insecure/inhibited sexually. They use the excuse of breast feeding to show off their breasts in public because they can convince themselves that it this is a morally, if not socially, acceptable way to show off their new, bigger breasts. Those who are emotionally and sexually secure, and endorse public breast feeding do it with respect and modesty, acklowledging and respecting that some natural acts are not meant to be done with no restraint in public places, and acknowledging that the breast IS a sexual object, NOT just a source of food for infants. My compassion goes out to the women who are so psychologically challenged , they need to hide behind and use their babies to become sexual exhibitionists. There are plenty of socially acceptable venues to do that, and family restaurants are NOT socially acceptable venues. Farting and belching are equally natural parts of eating for all people, not just babies, and thank goodness most people are kind and respectful and don't just "let one rip" while they are eating in public, simple because it's natural process to pass gas from both ends while eating.    

  

Joy, M.D. 

What a QUACK!!!! 

  

Pediatric internship did you say???? I am sorry...is your expertise in breast feeding? What the heck would you know about it...have you breast fed? Have you had a baby? Has your body experienced the physical and emotional changes of giving birth? Do you know in the beginning it takes a bit of practice to get the baby to latch on...where are you seeing these small breasted women...in your office???? If you know all this or you are a women who experienced this then maybe you are the small breasted insecure one.  

  

My pediatrician encouraged me to breastfeed in the office during a long wait WITHOUT JUDGMENT and provided me the privacy to do so. (ESPECIALLY IN THE BEGINNING). Not only that they encouraged me to do so after the baby had their shots...FOR COMFORT.  

  

By the way DOC breasts were made for breast feeding...yes we use them as a sexual object..but as the Dr you claim to be you should know that. Nor should  you be so insecure about it. I have a hard time believing you graduated from medical school and a re a practicing pediatrician with those views. Your poor patients!!!!!! 

  

How can you compare and adult passing gas at the table to a baby nursing...you are definitely a QUACK!!!!!!! 

  

Do you honestly get to know these new mothers so well to pass such insaine judments?  My compassion goes out to these poor mothers you are in contact with. 

 


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