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November 3, 2007, 2:47 pm PDT

We DON"T KNOW ALL THE ISSUES Here

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I really don't understand this bride.  She's already started a huge feud with the guy's mom.  He's a coward and why does this mom even want to have anything to do with him.  If my son sided with a girl against me in such a horrible manner, I'd disown him.  He's NOT A SON.  Both of these punks need to go back and read the commandments.  In this day in age, I think everyone better do that.  In any case, in this situation they both need to remember to HONOR THY MOTHER AND THY FATHER.  There might be something to that.  

This girl is a trouble maker and if she's already causing a war....good luck to the worm that marries her. 

This means the poor children these two might have will never know their grandmother.  It's disgusting for this girl to behave this way.  Good luck, Dr. Phil.  Sounds like you'll need it.

We don't know all the issues involved so I was suprised you said honor mother & father. I had similar problems with my inlaws as a matter of fact on our wedding day my father in law told me he would give it a yr.(been 27 yrs now)  When the bible states HONOR your MOTHER & FATher  it doesn't mean when they are being nasty to you to take their side. Families have issues. One point in our life We wouldn't let my inlaws see the kids because they did nothing but talk bad about us to everyone. So sometimes you just can't HONOR THEM at the moment. Families have to work the issues out. Life isn't perfect. As long as there are families there will be issues.
 

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November 3, 2007, 11:41 pm PDT

11/08 Banned From the Wedding

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I really don't understand this bride.  She's already started a huge feud with the guy's mom.  He's a coward and why does this mom even want to have anything to do with him.  If my son sided with a girl against me in such a horrible manner, I'd disown him.  He's NOT A SON.  Both of these punks need to go back and read the commandments.  In this day in age, I think everyone better do that.  In any case, in this situation they both need to remember to HONOR THY MOTHER AND THY FATHER.  There might be something to that.  

This girl is a trouble maker and if she's already causing a war....good luck to the worm that marries her. 

This means the poor children these two might have will never know their grandmother.  It's disgusting for this girl to behave this way.  Good luck, Dr. Phil.  Sounds like you'll need it.

There has not been a mention of what caused the hatred.  Is the Mother in law dictating how the wedding is going to be?  The bride and groom may have opted for a quiet affair with a few close friends and then had a large reception planned.  The families need to accept the day is about the bride and groom and what they want.  No one else's wants or desires are part of the picutre unless those issues are dealt with in a very deilcate manner.   Oferring to assist is wonderful - just be sure you are assisting the way the bride and grom want assistanace.  Otherwise be content to be part of the spectators and just enjoy the wedding.
 
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November 4, 2007, 2:37 pm PST

She is not the only one!!!

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I really don't understand this bride.  She's already started a huge feud with the guy's mom.  He's a coward and why does this mom even want to have anything to do with him.  If my son sided with a girl against me in such a horrible manner, I'd disown him.  He's NOT A SON.  Both of these punks need to go back and read the commandments.  In this day in age, I think everyone better do that.  In any case, in this situation they both need to remember to HONOR THY MOTHER AND THY FATHER.  There might be something to that.  

This girl is a trouble maker and if she's already causing a war....good luck to the worm that marries her. 

This means the poor children these two might have will never know their grandmother.  It's disgusting for this girl to behave this way.  Good luck, Dr. Phil.  Sounds like you'll need it.

I have one of those daughter in laws...... My son has not talked to me since feb of this year. His wife ot about 4 yrs wrote to me and told me that I was a bad mother, she was breaking all ties. This mean't that I would not see my son nor my grandson. I have tryed calling my son, emailing but no response. This is my only blood son, so I can not say he is not my son. This is very very hurtful, not just to me but for my grandson never to know me, thats pure hateful on her part. I will not give up on my son and his baby. I don't care about his so called wife, but just seems these girls need to grow up. I live 5 hours away not like I am trying to interfer, or control them in anyway. I just want him to be a man and set things straight, not just with me, but with his wife as well.... I feel sorry for anyone that is going through this, its just something u can't forget. I wake thinking about it, go to sleep thinking about it. My god be with these girls, and give them some sense!!! Hurt and angry in Iowa
 
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November 5, 2007, 4:28 am PST

Daughter-In-Law and her Mom, from Hell!

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I really don't understand this bride.  She's already started a huge feud with the guy's mom.  He's a coward and why does this mom even want to have anything to do with him.  If my son sided with a girl against me in such a horrible manner, I'd disown him.  He's NOT A SON.  Both of these punks need to go back and read the commandments.  In this day in age, I think everyone better do that.  In any case, in this situation they both need to remember to HONOR THY MOTHER AND THY FATHER.  There might be something to that.  

This girl is a trouble maker and if she's already causing a war....good luck to the worm that marries her. 

This means the poor children these two might have will never know their grandmother.  It's disgusting for this girl to behave this way.  Good luck, Dr. Phil.  Sounds like you'll need it.

Like you said, most future Brides want to start out a new marriage on the right foot with their future In-Laws, especially those they've never met.  Because of a guilty conscience; however, my only Child, his Financee and her Mom conspired to deliberately deprive me and my Ex from knowing they had met, that they were engaged, and from attending their wedding; then exacted revenge against us because we did not attend their wedding (through no fault of my own)! 

 

When I found out my Son was getting married the 2nd time, I was totally disabled, flat on my back in bed after suffering 3 failed spinal surgeries due to a permanent injury caused me by my abusive Ex.  I had explained to my Son my surgeon said I wasn't allowed to travel further than a 50 mile radius from our cattle ranch--the same distance I traveled one-way to his offices--and my Son indicated to me they would marry someplace within that distance I could travel.  Consequently, I was thrilled about my Son's wedding, as I had hoped he'd remarry sometime after his Divorce.  I ordered a beautiful, expensive long evening gown, evening shoes, and evening purse from a JC Penney catalog. 

 

After the date had already passed for me to be able to return those items, I got a call from my Son and his future Wife, announcing they were instead getting married at a wedding chapel she'd chosen, hundreds of miles away from our cattle ranch, in the NE part of our State.  She deliberately chose a chapel seating 100+ people, despite knowing ahead of time neither of them had any family or friends living in that area, and neither family had any relatives or friends living anywhere near that area! My Son's controlling Fiancee and controlling future Mother-In-Law--both of whom we'd never laid eyes on--threw an absolute "hissy fit", absolutely refusing to compromise by finding a place closer to where we lived to marry so I could also attend my only Son's wedding, like her Mom, Dad, and Stepmom would all be able to do. My Son stupidly backed down and allowed his controlling Fiancee and her Mom have their way instead of insisting it would be impossible for his own disabled Mom (already in horrific pain 24 hrs./day, 7 days/wk. from 3 back surgeries within only a year), to travel hundreds of miles, one way, to their wedding.  I'd explained to my Son my surgeon ordered I had to remain flat on my back in bed, so it could properly heal, except when I was traveling back and forth to doctor appointments.  My Ex had calculated the mileage and discovered there would have only been a 50 mile difference for my Son's Fiancee's family to travel, had they married anyplace of their own choosing within a 50 mile radius of our cattle ranch.  However, his Fiancee claimed she couldn't get her money back if she cancelled, even though she'd deliberately chosen that place only after my Son already told me they would get married closer to where we lived so I could attend!  Had we known then what we discovered later about them already shacking up for a full year in advance of their wedding, we would have preferred they'd instead immediately married in FL, the place they met, or in AL, where her family and friends lived! 

 

I begged my Ex and his Mom to attend their wedding in my absence because I knew if this girl and her Mom had this much power over my Son before they married, they would one day try to destroy a once loving relationship I'd enjoyed with my Son in the past. My Ex and his Mom were so  furious my Son and his Fiancee could be so thoughtless, unloving, and inconsiderate--besides hiding from us they were living together--they refused to attend their wedding.  I cried my heart out because my Son allowed his Fiancee and her Mom to deny me the right I should have had to attend my own Son's wedding!  Not only did that hurt, but I knew one day I'd end up being used as their scapegoat because my Ex and his Mom decided they wouldn't attend their wedding!  That's exactly what happened, after I moved here to this State where they now live, 6 yrs. ago!  Despite the unnecessary heartache they caused us over their wedding location, and despite discovering through my Ex-Husband's Sister that they'd already been living together a full year and could have married in FL or at least near where they were living together at the time they finally decided to marry, I decided to continue being the loving Christian Mom I've always been.  I asked my Ex to please go to the store for me and buy them a beautiful Christian wedding card. We enclosed a big check inside, which he mailed to them. 

 

A  month later, we were surprised to get a wedding video in the mail.  My Husband put the VCR in so we could see their wedding, we had missed.  We were shocked to see a huge empty wedding chapel with only my Son, his Fiance, some Pastor they found to marry them, her Dad and Stepmom and Half-Sister.  Her own Mom was making the video. After the wedding, the new couple and her Mom drove back home to their own apartment some distance away, for their "reception", and the rest of my new Daughter-In-Law's family immediately drove back to AL.  At  their apartment, my Son wasn't in the video.  I only saw my new Daughter-In-Law and her Mom.  Then the only one in the video was my Daughter-In-Law, who began reading the beautiful wedding card we bought them. I really thought it was thoughtful of her to think of doing that, until what happened next. I could hear her Mom's voice in the background, and suddenly, my new Daughter-In-Law began laughing hysterically and continued laughing hysterically the entire time she was reading their religious wedding card!  You have no idea how hurt, angry, and humilated my Husband and I both felt! 

 

Neither my Ex nor his Mom wanted to meet my Son's Fiancee before they married due to their deliberate deception, but I insisted we invite them down because I knew if we didn't invite them, I'd never see him again, nor would I ever see any future Grandchildren I might have!  We had already been down a similar road before with his first Wife, who also totally controlled my Son, and also tried to alienate him from his own family. He had to Divorce her because when he returned from a Navy sub cruise three days before Christmas a year after they married, she was on the pier with some guy of another race with whom she was committing adultery, telling my Son she didn't love him anymore and also had moved out of their apartment, taking all their brand new furniture and new car she'd insisted he buy before he left on his cruise! Despite the horrendous emotional pain my Son and first Wife had caused us, and this additional pain my Son and 2nd Fiancee caused us, when she was there at our ranch, I treated her like she was a Queen, never letting on--and never allowing my Ex or his Mom to let on--we were aware of their secret they'd deliberately kept from us, the secret they stupidly thought we'd never learn.  Why?  Because my Ex was a violent man and I knew a major fight would ensue, and I'd never see my Son again! What made it harder, though, was my future Daughter-In-Law's hypocrisy in telling me several times her Grandpa had been a Methodist Pastor--thinking she was earning "brownie points" with me--totally unaware of the fact I already knew she was a slut and a gold-digger like his #1 Wife had been!  Let's be clear:  My Son is just as much at fault because he wasn't raised that way.  After he told them his Parents had a big cattle ranch and both of his gold-digger future Wives used their own bodies to immediately lure him into bed, into his apartment, and into marriage! The Mom of his first Fiancee shocked us on their wedding day, after we had driven hundreds of miles to that wedding, telling us her Daughter had moved in with my Son within only a week after meeting him.  My Son's second Fiancee did likewise, we discovered. 

 

Several years later, I ended up Divorcing my abusive Ex and escaped to the same State, near where my Son and his Wife lived. After listening several times to both of them astonishingly trying to blame me several times for supposedly "ruining" their wedding because I didn't attend it, I finally got the courage to confront them both about it, separately, because I didn't want them together in the same room so they could make up a story, together! I told each of them they had no right to blame me for not being at their wedding when they knew it was physically impossible for me to attend when they purposely made the decision to marry hours away from our home, a distance they knew ahead of time would make it totally impossible for me to attend!  I also finally revealed to each that my Ex's Sister had phoned us the day after they shown up at her Grandson's Wedding Reception to brag about her new engagement ring to them (which we had heard nothing about!), and also about the fact they confessed to them at they had been living together a full year, both in FL and the same State we lived in (deliberately keeping that info from us, also)!  I was astonished both lied to my face, claiming they weren't at the wedding reception, despite my Ex's Sister, their entire family, and 300+ other witnesses seeing them there! I was further astonished when my own Son blatantly lied to my face, claiming he didn't know anyone by the name of "Chris" (my Ex's Nephew), whose wedding reception they had attended, despite the fact he and Chris would pal around together whenever Chris visted our ranch! 

 

I was so hurt that in my physical condition my Son, Wife and her Mom would try to use me as a scapegoat when it was my Ex and his Mom--not me--who refused to attend their wedding! What is even more hurtful, after my Divorce, I immediately became of no value anymore to my Son and his new Wife because my Ex decided to immediately disinherit my Son from ever getting our big cattle ranch once he dies!  None of these things are my fault, but I've been terribly maligned and mistreated by my Son, his Wife, and by her Mom who's done everything in her power to encourage their deception and hurtful behavior towards me from the day she and her Daughter met my Son in FL, when my Son was foolish enough to brag to them--the same way he bragged to his first future Wife--his Parents owned a big cattle ranch!  My Ex refused to allow me to work outside our cattle ranch immediately after we married. I daily worked my butt off on that ranch for 14 yrs., as his full-time unpaid cattle rancher.  I never married my Ex for money, so I never shed one tear over losing my beautiful home we built, nor the cattle I'd raised and dearly loved, because my Ex not only caused my permanent back injury, he killed 3 of my precious cats and my dog because I Divorced  him!  After all the years of Hell I had to endure with him, because I had no financial means to escape because he constantly kept us in debt buying farm and other equipment he already had and didn't need--it hursts knowing my Son's and his Wife's greed means more to them than them allowing me to have a loving relationship with them and my precious 4 yr. old Grandson! I sacrificed for my Son during all of those years I was a single Mom and had to raise him entirely by myself because his own Daddy decided he would abandon him after we Divorced!

 

 
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November 5, 2007, 1:31 pm PST

Commandments

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I really don't understand this bride.  She's already started a huge feud with the guy's mom.  He's a coward and why does this mom even want to have anything to do with him.  If my son sided with a girl against me in such a horrible manner, I'd disown him.  He's NOT A SON.  Both of these punks need to go back and read the commandments.  In this day in age, I think everyone better do that.  In any case, in this situation they both need to remember to HONOR THY MOTHER AND THY FATHER.  There might be something to that.  

This girl is a trouble maker and if she's already causing a war....good luck to the worm that marries her. 

This means the poor children these two might have will never know their grandmother.  It's disgusting for this girl to behave this way.  Good luck, Dr. Phil.  Sounds like you'll need it.

 So if your mother or father abused you physically or mentally  you would still have to honor them?? give me a break! and what happens if you dont have a set religion?? I dont think the commandments apply to those people...
 
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November 8, 2007, 7:23 am PST

11/08 Banned From the Wedding

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I really don't understand this bride.  She's already started a huge feud with the guy's mom.  He's a coward and why does this mom even want to have anything to do with him.  If my son sided with a girl against me in such a horrible manner, I'd disown him.  He's NOT A SON.  Both of these punks need to go back and read the commandments.  In this day in age, I think everyone better do that.  In any case, in this situation they both need to remember to HONOR THY MOTHER AND THY FATHER.  There might be something to that.  

This girl is a trouble maker and if she's already causing a war....good luck to the worm that marries her. 

This means the poor children these two might have will never know their grandmother.  It's disgusting for this girl to behave this way.  Good luck, Dr. Phil.  Sounds like you'll need it.

AND A MAN SHALL LEAVE HIS MOTHER AND FATHER AND BE UNITED TO HIS WIFE!!! 

 

They are both to blame, not just the bride.  If the mother truly wants to have a relationship with her son and HIS WIFE then she needs to back off.  And if my husbands mother said the things she said about me, I wouldn't want my kids around her either!

 
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November 8, 2007, 8:18 am PST

I can let you see 13 years later

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I really don't understand this bride.  She's already started a huge feud with the guy's mom.  He's a coward and why does this mom even want to have anything to do with him.  If my son sided with a girl against me in such a horrible manner, I'd disown him.  He's NOT A SON.  Both of these punks need to go back and read the commandments.  In this day in age, I think everyone better do that.  In any case, in this situation they both need to remember to HONOR THY MOTHER AND THY FATHER.  There might be something to that.  

This girl is a trouble maker and if she's already causing a war....good luck to the worm that marries her. 

This means the poor children these two might have will never know their grandmother.  It's disgusting for this girl to behave this way.  Good luck, Dr. Phil.  Sounds like you'll need it.

I agree with you 100%.  I am that mother 13 years later.  We have four grandchildren which we have not met.  Not only has our son cut my husband and I out of his life but he has also cut out his maternal grandmother, grandfather(who died in 2005, we sent a message of his grave illness and his death, to date not even a card to my mother), uncles(one of which died in 1999 after 20 year battle with cancer..no contact), and his only sibling eight years his junior, she is now a psychologist, aba therapist who has made several attempts.  Every attempt we have made to reach out and request reconsiliation, whether by myself, my mother or my daughter has been rejected.  The relationship with my husbands parents and brother is very limitted, but they are the only ones who have any type of connection they tell my if they bring up the subject they are told they do not want to discuss it and that if they(my inlaws) give us any information on them to us they will move out of state and no one will be able to find them. 

 

 
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November 8, 2007, 12:02 pm PST

the Bible also says...

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I really don't understand this bride.  She's already started a huge feud with the guy's mom.  He's a coward and why does this mom even want to have anything to do with him.  If my son sided with a girl against me in such a horrible manner, I'd disown him.  He's NOT A SON.  Both of these punks need to go back and read the commandments.  In this day in age, I think everyone better do that.  In any case, in this situation they both need to remember to HONOR THY MOTHER AND THY FATHER.  There might be something to that.  

This girl is a trouble maker and if she's already causing a war....good luck to the worm that marries her. 

This means the poor children these two might have will never know their grandmother.  It's disgusting for this girl to behave this way.  Good luck, Dr. Phil.  Sounds like you'll need it.

The Bible does say Honor they father and thy mother, but it also says that a man shall leave his father and mother and cleave to his wife, and the two shall become one flesh.

 

Frankly, I am not sure what to think about this episode.  There was so much right-fighting, I didn't see any real issues being discussed at all.  There were the issues of the nasty emails on both sides, but I don't think they ever really got down to what actually started this whole mess.  The future DIL did seem nasty, but so did the MIL. 

 
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November 8, 2007, 12:43 pm PST

Nellie Oslen lookalike needs to lighten up

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I really don't understand this bride.  She's already started a huge feud with the guy's mom.  He's a coward and why does this mom even want to have anything to do with him.  If my son sided with a girl against me in such a horrible manner, I'd disown him.  He's NOT A SON.  Both of these punks need to go back and read the commandments.  In this day in age, I think everyone better do that.  In any case, in this situation they both need to remember to HONOR THY MOTHER AND THY FATHER.  There might be something to that.  

This girl is a trouble maker and if she's already causing a war....good luck to the worm that marries her. 

This means the poor children these two might have will never know their grandmother.  It's disgusting for this girl to behave this way.  Good luck, Dr. Phil.  Sounds like you'll need it.

She's a meanie Bridezilla.

 
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November 8, 2007, 1:24 pm PST

Don't Like This Bride

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I really don't understand this bride.  She's already started a huge feud with the guy's mom.  He's a coward and why does this mom even want to have anything to do with him.  If my son sided with a girl against me in such a horrible manner, I'd disown him.  He's NOT A SON.  Both of these punks need to go back and read the commandments.  In this day in age, I think everyone better do that.  In any case, in this situation they both need to remember to HONOR THY MOTHER AND THY FATHER.  There might be something to that.  

This girl is a trouble maker and if she's already causing a war....good luck to the worm that marries her. 

This means the poor children these two might have will never know their grandmother.  It's disgusting for this girl to behave this way.  Good luck, Dr. Phil.  Sounds like you'll need it.

 I do not like this bride. You can see she wants to split him from his mother. I had a wonderful mother in law. She never butted in and my husband adored my mother. Once when him and I were arguing I remeber him saying to me "you want me to act like your father, try acting like your mother'! LOL He was right. BUT, when I remarried I got the control freak from HELL mother in law. I would never speak to her the way this girl speaks to her(yes I am older 40 something lol) but for her son to allow this, what kind of wuzz is he? They will be divorced down the road, especially if she has a daughter, because she is the type(the bride) to be in competition with any female that is close to the groom. The groom better run for the hills while he still has a chance. His mom will always be his mom, she may not always be his wife.
 


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