Quote From: will6012Yes, there was a sleepover and both Joelle and the husband admitted to it. You said, te woman is innocent, well that is judging. Question why he a sexuallyactive at 14-15, souns like yo judginh again. wy don't you just very female rape vitim if they were sexually active before their rape accusation. Oh, it s against the lie. They can not ask the boys.Rape shield laws prevent the disclosure of victims identies, especially children.
Get grip. You probably yelled that the Catholic priests, who were educators shuldbe left alone. They were simply teaching, is that yur thoughts. I applaud what good your uncle did, your father, and you. Is hat wjy you replid, to make settement about your individual life.You were teacher. News flash. You quit teaching because of your caring, but you thnk hat it was not your responsibilty to TEACH but the parents. What is the teachers responsiility? to have sleepovers ad pass coded notes.
I guess we will have to wait for the civil rial to find out if Joelle started her relationship and sexual after they were married.
IF THIS WERE A MALE TEACHER, MOST OF THE POSTERS WOULD SIDE WITH THE FEMALE STUDENT.
THEY WOULD SAY, WHY WOULD SE LIE AND PUT HERSLF THROUGH ALL OF THIS. THEY WOULD SAY RAPE VICTIMS DON'T LIE.
YES, QUIT JUDGING.. SO, I GUESS, YOU DID NOT MEAN TO SAY THAT SHE AS INNOCENT,BECAUE TAT IS JUDGING.
WAKE UP PEOPLE, JOELLE REFUSED TO TAKE THE LIE DETECTOR AND HER ATTORNEY WOULD NOT LET HER, BECAUSE HE KNEW SHE WAS LYING. ANYONE WHO THINKS SHE IS INNOCENT AND THE BOYS GUILTY BECAUSE THE BOYS FAILD ONE OF TWO POLYGRAPH TESTS, IS JUST BLIND. IF THE TEST IS RELIABLE, THENSHE WOULD HAV NO REASON NOT TO TAKE IT, UNLESS SHE IS LYNG. BUT, WE WON'T JUDGE.
WE WON'T JUDGE, THE FACT THATSHE USED THE WORD PEDOPHILE IN RESPONSE TO MARRYING HER HIGH SCHOOL TEACHER. LISTEN TO WHAT SHESAID IN . "DOES THAT MAKE ME A PEDOPHILE." I WON'T JUDGE, BUT MAYBE SHE FINALLY REALIZED, THAT SHE MARRIED A PEDOPHILE. THIS VERY THING MAY HAPPEN, WITH THE TEACHER WHO JUST FLED TO MEXICO WITH A 14 YEAR OLD BABY. YOU KNOW A 14 YEAR OLD BOY, WHO IS 2 T 3 YEARS BEHIND GIRLS EMOTIONALLY. THE SCARS ON A BOY ARE DEEPER AND MORE PERMANENT. IF ANYONE DISAGREES, I WILL CONSIDER THE ARGUMENT, THAT BOYS AE MORE EMOTIONALLY MATURE THAN GIRLS.
Ok, I see you are one of those you just judge in order to get your own point across. YOu make an accusation at me now, because you did not like what I said. Fine. I will not talk about the Catholic churches issues. I guess because I am one of the those "werid americans" who have lived in other parts of the world. I have seen other ways of looking at things...
Ask yourself, why do you have SO MUCH ANGER and SO MUCH JUDGEMENT. Could you not for one moment assume that she is innocent and look at it from her point view...or even people with simular experiences. But instead the daggers fly. It is percisely this "attitude of Amercians" that has gotten us into SO MUCH TROUBLE in the world. Open your mind, the world is more than this.
Ultimately the responsiblity of this young man is his parents...and at 15, either they have the morals or they do not. It is up to the parents to allow or disallow the theorical "sleep over". I quit teaching because of judgmental parents and school districts...it was not worth the hell you pay, for such low amount of income and the threats you take...such as the one you are dishing out.
Teaching in EUROPE is a whole other matter - the daughter of a close friend was educated in Sweden. Talk about night and day. Parents backup the teachers and students are REQUIRED, mind you REQUIRED to openly discuss sex, language, religion, so they will have a complete understanding and make proper educated decisions for their lives. You do not get this nonsense and rantings. These "children" are even sent on trips to other countries with their teacher...do you see any "shocked" parents? No because after the age of 14, children are expected to behave and accept consequences (and I might add it is the LOWEST pregancy rate amoung teenagers in the world) And we wonder about why our kids "Amercian" make the decisions they do. We hide in a closet subjects that are simple biology and should be openly, without shame, discussed.
Assuming for one moment that the boy was telling the truth...at 15, the boy should know better, and where are his parents? It is simple at that.
Back to the truth, I still do not believe him and back her up all the way. She can teach my children anytime, any place, with complete confidence in thier safety...and hopefully speak better french than I do.
Please quit making excuses for this "child" and for one moment, "open your mind" to the other possibilites...instead of putting everyone in this very convient box.