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November 11, 2007, 11:08 am PST

daughter in danger

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I think this family should give it up. If this girl is dumb enough to fall for this guy and go clear across the sea to get to him... then you can't do a thing about it. It's her life and she will be sorry some day and I would say sooner rather then later. But the family has no RIGHT to force her to do anything.  Say good bye and wish her luck.  She did it once and she will continue to do it.  All the family will do is throw good money and heart after bad, trying to get her back.  She is being bullheaded and maybe a little sick but she's of age.

 

PS  If she ever comes back to the US, I'd say watch her because she might be brain washed. 

you never give up...this girl is delusional and somehow he has said the ''magic words''. some people just have power and know how to use it. she will regret this forever. if she hasn't married him yet, he has no respect for her, as no muslim man would. if she has married him , she is basically trapped and when she has children and decides this life is wrong, she will never get them out of there and if she DOES, she will have to hide for the rest of her life. i lived in france years ago and many french women married muslims and when the man decided to go back to his country, he took their kids and it took years of legal work to get even visitation rights. HA. it is a nightmare.
 
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November 14, 2007, 2:28 pm PST

whats around?

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I think this family should give it up. If this girl is dumb enough to fall for this guy and go clear across the sea to get to him... then you can't do a thing about it. It's her life and she will be sorry some day and I would say sooner rather then later. But the family has no RIGHT to force her to do anything.  Say good bye and wish her luck.  She did it once and she will continue to do it.  All the family will do is throw good money and heart after bad, trying to get her back.  She is being bullheaded and maybe a little sick but she's of age.

 

PS  If she ever comes back to the US, I'd say watch her because she might be brain washed. 

you know what i think? i tink people should stop and look around them for a sec sure the girl is in a war zone not the best place to be but when you actually think about it north america isnt the best place to be either PEOPLE LOOK AROUND YOU GIRLS ARE GETTING KILLED EITHER WAY EVEN IF YOUR NOT IN A WAR ZONE YOUR STILL GETTING KILLED AND RAPED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! what her family is worried about her that shes over there but what there not worried about her if she was here so what its her choise  so be it its not like shes safe here any ways you let your daughter go to school thinking everything is alright guess again shes into drugs or even better shes dateing a guy thats old as  her father..... but anyways thats not my point my point is you people need to stop accusing  the middel east or in what ever case the arabic people that they are all bad start putting the if's what if this guy actually loves her? what if this is what she really wants? theres nothing that anyone can do so be it Obviously it seems like she doesnt agree with her family and found a better life LET HER  BE not all middel easterns are murders just like here not all americans or canadians are murders we are all the same all humens......... OPEN YOUR EYES PEOPLE!!!!!!!!!!
 
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November 14, 2007, 3:05 pm PST

11/14 A Daughter in Danger?

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I think this family should give it up. If this girl is dumb enough to fall for this guy and go clear across the sea to get to him... then you can't do a thing about it. It's her life and she will be sorry some day and I would say sooner rather then later. But the family has no RIGHT to force her to do anything.  Say good bye and wish her luck.  She did it once and she will continue to do it.  All the family will do is throw good money and heart after bad, trying to get her back.  She is being bullheaded and maybe a little sick but she's of age.

 

PS  If she ever comes back to the US, I'd say watch her because she might be brain washed. 

Amen. Come on Dr. Phil... there are more important issues to debate/discuss. This young woman is of age, she is free to make her own choices. My great-great grandmother left home at age 24 to teach country school in Montana. Her parents tried to have her declared insane in order to have her returned to Seattle, Washington. Her parents wanted her returned for the same reasons that this mother wants her daughter to return to America. At the time my great-great grandmother settled in Montana; Montana was considered too wild (in some areas of Amercia, Montana is still considered too unsettled.) However, this woman has made her own mind up and let's move on to real issues, she is now her own person. My great-great grandmother had nothing to do with her parents after all of the drama that they caused for her. This too, is something to remember when you lovingly mettle in your children's life. Get over it and pray/hope you have raised your daughter to be independent and stop trying to control her. She's 18 and she'll do what she wants to do, sometimes out of pure spite. After everything settled for my grandmother; every generation since she settled here in Montana has gone on to go to college (paid for by themelves. I beleive that put the proof in the pudding). All of our great-great grandmother's children, grandchilden and their children...and so on, have turned out to be educated, productive members of society. This mother should learn to love her daughter from afar. Tell her that you love her and that you will be there for her, when she needs you. Then hold your breath and say many prayers, Mom!
 
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November 14, 2007, 5:15 pm PST

Your Crazy!

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I think this family should give it up. If this girl is dumb enough to fall for this guy and go clear across the sea to get to him... then you can't do a thing about it. It's her life and she will be sorry some day and I would say sooner rather then later. But the family has no RIGHT to force her to do anything.  Say good bye and wish her luck.  She did it once and she will continue to do it.  All the family will do is throw good money and heart after bad, trying to get her back.  She is being bullheaded and maybe a little sick but she's of age.

 

PS  If she ever comes back to the US, I'd say watch her because she might be brain washed. 

How can anyone expect this family to give up!? Just because she is now 18 and known as an "adult" doesn't mean they can't care. What would you do if it was your child, you wouldn't give up! I understand she is making wrong decisions, but she was brought into the problem at a young age. Love is crazy and can work in many ways. Young girls sometimes think they are in Love and in causes them to do anything. This is not her fault, she was worpt by this guy when she was only 16. When a man tells a younger girl they love them, that girl will take it in because shes young and hasn't felt love. I think her parents are doing a good job! And definatly should NOT give up until she is home safely!
 
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November 15, 2007, 3:39 pm PST

11/14 A Daughter in Danger?

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I think this family should give it up. If this girl is dumb enough to fall for this guy and go clear across the sea to get to him... then you can't do a thing about it. It's her life and she will be sorry some day and I would say sooner rather then later. But the family has no RIGHT to force her to do anything.  Say good bye and wish her luck.  She did it once and she will continue to do it.  All the family will do is throw good money and heart after bad, trying to get her back.  She is being bullheaded and maybe a little sick but she's of age.

 

PS  If she ever comes back to the US, I'd say watch her because she might be brain washed. 

Obviously you DO NOT have children. As a mother I would never give up say goodbye and good luck knowing that my child (no matter what age) is in danger. Katherine's family has every reason to have doubts and fears for her saftey. She is in the Middle East for Gods sake, and our country is at war. You nerture them when they are small, help them thru the teen years and watch them grow as adults, but you never GIVE UP ON THEM. Yes she's making the mistake of her life, but she may never get the chance to be sorry about it.
 
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June 14, 2008, 2:05 pm PDT

Daughter In Danger

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I think this family should give it up. If this girl is dumb enough to fall for this guy and go clear across the sea to get to him... then you can't do a thing about it. It's her life and she will be sorry some day and I would say sooner rather then later. But the family has no RIGHT to force her to do anything.  Say good bye and wish her luck.  She did it once and she will continue to do it.  All the family will do is throw good money and heart after bad, trying to get her back.  She is being bullheaded and maybe a little sick but she's of age.

 

PS  If she ever comes back to the US, I'd say watch her because she might be brain washed. 

No good parent would ever give up on their child, no matter what their age. While you might have to let them make their own mistakes, that doesn't mean you stand aside while they put themselves in physical danger. You sound like someone who doesn't have children to suggest that the family should just give up because she is 18.
 
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June 15, 2008, 12:46 am PDT

Yes!

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I think this family should give it up. If this girl is dumb enough to fall for this guy and go clear across the sea to get to him... then you can't do a thing about it. It's her life and she will be sorry some day and I would say sooner rather then later. But the family has no RIGHT to force her to do anything.  Say good bye and wish her luck.  She did it once and she will continue to do it.  All the family will do is throw good money and heart after bad, trying to get her back.  She is being bullheaded and maybe a little sick but she's of age.

 

PS  If she ever comes back to the US, I'd say watch her because she might be brain washed. 

You're totally right and I of course agree... Katherine isn't a teen anymore.. she is 18 and she knows what's right & what's wrong.. her parents should leave her and they'll see that, someday, she'll die just to get back to her house. I am a Christian Arab and I know the people here. Most of the them don't respect their wives, well, disrecpect is found eveywhere, but it's more often here. And if she marries him, he may force her to become a Muslim or to cover her hair, so she will look horrible. On the other hand, I heard that Abdullah does not respect her or her family, so, just ask a kid this question and he'll answer the correct one: "What do you expect this person to be? This person who cursed at her and her family?" So I think she must have known the answer, she will regret it a lot... But not to be unjust, there are some Muslim Arabs here who really treat their women nicely, but Abdullah doesn't seem to be that type pf person... So Katherine, I really advise you and all the girls who have done similar to this or who are about to do it, to move back and stay home... Don't ruin your life and get yourself a bad reputation. Actually I call this "Adolescence madness". She was 16 years old when she did this, which means she was a teen, but a 16 year-old girl/boy is still mature or well-grown, in this gae of technology, especially. There's still a lot to say, take this from me, Muslim men can divorce their women from a one single word, which is: "Inti Taleg."  So if he utters that word to her, in their religion, she is a divorced woman and she'll have to find somewhere else... Also, you guys don't know how Muslims here think about the Christians, especially that she is an American, he'll keep trying bringing her down, and you can't imgaine how bad Abdullah's parents can be to this crazy girl, they will all despise her for leaving her parents and coming for some guy...

 

I got a similar story that my mom shared with me:

My mom used to work as an Arabic teacher in some public school, she, of course, had many friends from female teachers, and one of those teachers did the same! She married a Muslim man, who forced her to become a Muslim and to cover her hair and her body with something called "Al-Jilbab" it's like a cloak. Anyway, she's now married to him and they have two daughters. This woman is now very poor, she doesn't have an oven! Her husband is very mean to her and keeps calling her: "You're a wh*** Christian, you're the unpure woman who sold herself to me and left her family, bad Christian!." Besides that he sometimes hit her, and this woman's mother died, but why? Because of what her daughter had done... which means, she now has done two sins, changing her religion and leaving Jesus, and killing her mother, and I think it should be considered as "on purpose" because she knew how sad and mad the whole family would be... So one day, after she had run away with him, she came back to the school which she used to work at with my mother, but once she entered the teachers' room, all of the Christian teachers kicked her out of the room.. Which means, she is low now, she has no place to go to, and she is very sorry and she wishes she didn't do it.. but after what? After 20 years of their "fake" marriage?

 

So finally, I really hope this Katherine girl gets her head back... I promise I will pray for her and for everyone...

 

Thanks! :)
 
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June 16, 2008, 8:41 pm PDT

Middle East Romeo and Juliet

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I think this family should give it up. If this girl is dumb enough to fall for this guy and go clear across the sea to get to him... then you can't do a thing about it. It's her life and she will be sorry some day and I would say sooner rather then later. But the family has no RIGHT to force her to do anything.  Say good bye and wish her luck.  She did it once and she will continue to do it.  All the family will do is throw good money and heart after bad, trying to get her back.  She is being bullheaded and maybe a little sick but she's of age.

 

PS  If she ever comes back to the US, I'd say watch her because she might be brain washed. 

 First of all, she's not a victim.  She chose to get involved with him.  She obviously sees something in him.  Oh no, he's Arabic, therefore she must have been brainwashed!  Why would a good white girl fall for a Middle Eastern man?  Absolutely rediculous!  You mean there's a brainwashing technique that you can apply online?  Maybe.  Maybe she was brainwashed when she fled at 16.  But wait up, she went again after she turned 18.  What the hell!  She must still be brainwashed(sarcasm) or she was waiting till she's an adult to be with him.  Seems like its the latter.  Definitely, she is is being naive and foolish, but come on, she's not a victim!  Lets call it what it is, a foolish act by a young and naive girl who can't see beyond the now, and not a child thats victimized by the the all evil internet and the all evil middle eastener.   Please.....
 
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June 25, 2008, 5:48 pm PDT

06/16 A Daughter in Danger?

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I think this family should give it up. If this girl is dumb enough to fall for this guy and go clear across the sea to get to him... then you can't do a thing about it. It's her life and she will be sorry some day and I would say sooner rather then later. But the family has no RIGHT to force her to do anything.  Say good bye and wish her luck.  She did it once and she will continue to do it.  All the family will do is throw good money and heart after bad, trying to get her back.  She is being bullheaded and maybe a little sick but she's of age.

 

PS  If she ever comes back to the US, I'd say watch her because she might be brain washed. 

The key word is brainwash.

 

Dr. Phil had mentioned that the girls meet these guys on the internet but that is not the case.  My daughter met a boy from the middle east in high school.

 

I watched the entire thing and could predict every step even down the the slowly increasing abuse and even getting her pregnant and force the abortion.  Just because these girls are eighteen does not make them know everything.  Even if they think they do.  Brainwashing is slow and gradual and before they know it they are done.  It is harder when you are on the outside looking in but it is easier too because you have more tools to work with and more strenght to fight.  It took a year to get my duaghter away from this boy but it will take a lot mor to help get her back.

 

But giving up is NOT what families do.  As a mother to give up on a child is to give up on your own life. 

 
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