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November 14, 2007, 3:43 pm PST

Koncerned about Katherine

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Yes she is. This young girl is very naive and will lesten to what she wants to hear, right now it is the boyfriend, he tells her what she wants to hear and he knows it. To have met him on the internet (myspace at that) and to think she knows him enough to travel to his country just shows how naive she is. I do agree that the Mother should have intervened long before her daughter turned 16 then again when she got her back, that is when the intensive intervention should have started. This guy and his family are making her promises that sound good to her.  I know this for a fact because when my daughter turned 18 her boss talked to her about his nephew being here and needing to be married to stay in the USA. They told her they would give her money to live on while they were married, my daughter agreed at the time, but then decided that she wanted to stay married and make a family with him here in the states. I (her mother) live with them I know for a fact that if I didn't live with them and have such a close relationship with my daughter that things would be different for her being married to him. They have been married two years and still their are times that he has to be reminded that he lives in the USA and things are different here reagrding "control" over your wife. He use to tell my daughter what she can and can not wear (which he did not before they were married). He use to say that I can tell her these things because she is my wife, she must listen to me. I told him she is not your property, she is an equal partner in your marriage, you may tell her something you don't like and she has the right to decide what to do with that. He has taken some time to understand this and sometimes still reverts back to his culture which causes conflicts. He has told my daughter that when they have children they will be muslim, my daughter says no they will be Christian, so my daughter tells him then they will not be having children. She has a 3y/o which he treats beautifully as if she were his. They do have respect for family but it is still at their call. Before my daughter married her husband I sat her down and made her watch the movie "Not without my daughter", then she made him watch it also and told him I will never go to your country for fear of this happening. He told her they don't do that anymore. She will not just accept that answer and go, she knows better. She loves her husband as do I but you will always have things in the back of your head.

Now that Katherine is in Jordan she may not come back, they take your passport from you and hold it, she no longer has access to it. The boyfriend and his family are postponing getting her Visa for her for reasons of their own. The boyfriend is still being great to the girl and so is his family because she hasn't married him yet, once the marriage happens then things will take a drastic change in both how she is allowed to dress, what she can say, what she can do, what she will have to put up with. One of the things that they also do is once married they get their wives pregnant right away. My son-in laws brother just got married a few months ago and she is pregnant already, when my daughter asked her husband is that what you people do over there have children right away, he said yes. Why is that? it is because once they have children they will lose their children if they leave the husband. Only the husband is allowed to divorce a wife, or have other women in his life. Therefore women will not leave their husbands and will have to put up with abuse of all sides. Abdullah will get her Pregnant as soon as they marry, to have that control over her and over her family. They live together in a family unit, a large house so that there is always family around, she will never be left alone. You can know that already by everytime he has "allowed" Katherine to call home or visa versa he is standing over her to hear her conversation. If Katherine does not see this behaviour as controlling then as time goes by she will be lost to their culture, to a controlling man. She will be lost Dr. Phil

Good thing you mentioned the movie “Not Without My Daughter” because I was going to mention that film, asking if Katherine had ever seen it.  Doesn’t she know that once she marries Abdullah, she has to give up all her rights?  Quoted from the “Not Without My Daughter” page on Wikipedia:

 

“After many years of marriage to an Iranian doctor named Moody (Alfred Molina), Betty (Sally Field) is convinced by him to visit his family in Tehran for the first time. Although she has a lot of trepidation about traveling to the Middle East, her fear of violence is overcome by sympathy for her husband, who misses his family. After Moody swears on the Koran that everything will be fine, Betty agrees to go. The happy couple set out with their young daughter, Mahtob, on a planned two week family vacation.

                            

“Immediately upon arrival, Betty is forced to wear the traditional black veil, and is nearly arrested for inadvertently exposing some of her hair. Contrary to everything Betty had previously been led to believe, her husband's family turn out to be fanatically devout and conservative Muslims, who are very unhappy with the prospect of an American in-law. Towards the end of their scheduled holiday, her husband reveals that he has been fired from his job in the United States and that he has decided the family will stay in Iran. Suddenly, she sees a completely different side of him. When she objects to staying, he beats her and takes her credit cards, money and identification. She soon realizes that she and her daughter had became prisoners in her sister-in-law's home. She manages to call her own mother in the U.S. who provides her with an Embassy contact, before her husband cuts off her access to the telephone.

 

“Betty sneaks out of the house and gets to the Swiss Embassy, where she learns that under Iranian law women have no rights concerning the children; her daughter is considered an Iranian citizen and cannot be taken out of the country without Moody's signed permission. Her husband becomes increasingly violent with her and she is watched around the clock by his unsympathetic relatives. Realizing that she will never have an opportunity to escape unless she plays the part of a devout Muslim wife, she finally reinitiates sexual relations with her husband and expresses an interest in converting to Islam. Eventually, her husband loosens his tight reign on her a bit, moving the family into his brother's home. Her traumatized daughter is enrolled in a Muslim school, where Betty is allowed to accompany her. In a class about Islam, Betty meets another American woman who is also being held hostage in the country. The woman ends up being horribly beaten by her husband for trying to mail a letter for Betty.”

 

I fear that this will be Katherine’s fate indefinitely if she goes through with an actual wedding.  To those posters who are indicting racism against Muslims, I’ll have you know that this kind of thing is still happening with women in the Muslim/Middle Eastern culture.  Women are expected to not only submit to, but also worship their men, and cannot even go outside without a man accompanying them.  If you even talk about women’s rights there, you will be punished severely.  This is unlikely to change in the near future.  Even in Canada, this same thing is true with East Indians, beating their wives for disobedience, as I was told years ago while visiting British Columbia.

 

Now, about this meeting Abdullah on MySpace, first off you cannot hold the Internet and MySpace responsible for what happened to Katherine.  People have used this website for other purposes besides causing mischief and soliciting for sex.  One of my newly-made Internet friends has a MySpace page entirely devoted to the C.O.P.S. cartoon (though said friend is 34 years old.)  Yes, Katie is eighteen, but she obviously has the maturity of a 13-year-old, as evidenced by her actions.  Where was the computer when Katie was conversing with this man?  I hope it wasn’t in her bedroom, as studies and family repeatedly stress against this.  Always keep it in the family room, where parents can keep a strict eye on your Internet activities.  If Shawn has followed this, then she should’ve been home with her daughter more often where she can keep close watch on her, monitoring her MySpace activity, and explaining to her, as both parent and friend (because a concerned friend would do this also) about “stranger danger” and just accepting new friends on her page without checking to see if they are legitimate.

 

I wouldn’t have recommended taking away the computer entirely, (though I agree with the “no cell phone” deal) but I would’ve restricted access strictly for homework purposes (i.e.: research reports through Wikipedia, History reports and English projects on Word or WordPerfect.  As we are in the middle of a war, I agree that Katie must be forcibly removed from the Middle East before anything happens to her.  I just hope that she won’t behave like Alex from last week’s show when and if they do.

 


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