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November 15, 2007, 8:17 am PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

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I knew the day  I saw the previews on this show I had to watch it. I am currently in the same situation, dating a man although not in the middle east, but outside the country. He and I have also agreed to be married, and there is a since of rush on his part but not on mine. Although for us it has been almost a year since we first met, and I have fallen in love and plan to marry him as well.  I felt the need to get to know him first. It is hard to know of someone that many miles away, the phone, and internet and lettters helps a little, but its not like spending time in person.  I have questioned him extensivelly as to why he wants to marry an american, and the answer is always the same, vaguely I just always wanted an american. This I hate to hear, but is his reaction.  I will admit that I am afraid as hell to go to his country, and I worry if he is lying to me as well. I am a lot older than katherine and my fiance is a lot older than her boyfriend.  However my fiance does not use profanity, is not a muslim, and loves me totally. I dont quite understand the fuss, although the middle east is a very scary place to be, and i would never go there.

I hate to tell you this but it's so easy to be anyone you want to be over the internet and in letters etc. Have you ever heard "Online" by Brad Paisley?? It's true!! Just cause he's caring and loving etc online and in letters doesn't mean you'll get along AT ALL when you meet the real person and spend time with him. Also I'm disturbed by his answer to your questions. "I just always wanted an American"...that's creepy. Sorry! I am NOT knocking meeting people online, I met my husband online over SIX YEARS ago and we've been married THREE YEARS and have a 16 month old son. Granted we only lived a couple hours away from each other so we spent a LOT of time actually together rather than on the internet. I don't understand, at any age, how people promise to marry and spend their lives together when they DON'T really know each other. Talking online, on the phone, through letters etc is not KNOWING someone. That's called a pen pal. Please just be careful...especially when meeting someone from another country (no matter WHAT country it is). You never know people's real intentions in situations like this...
 
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November 15, 2007, 2:46 pm PST

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I knew the day  I saw the previews on this show I had to watch it. I am currently in the same situation, dating a man although not in the middle east, but outside the country. He and I have also agreed to be married, and there is a since of rush on his part but not on mine. Although for us it has been almost a year since we first met, and I have fallen in love and plan to marry him as well.  I felt the need to get to know him first. It is hard to know of someone that many miles away, the phone, and internet and lettters helps a little, but its not like spending time in person.  I have questioned him extensivelly as to why he wants to marry an american, and the answer is always the same, vaguely I just always wanted an american. This I hate to hear, but is his reaction.  I will admit that I am afraid as hell to go to his country, and I worry if he is lying to me as well. I am a lot older than katherine and my fiance is a lot older than her boyfriend.  However my fiance does not use profanity, is not a muslim, and loves me totally. I dont quite understand the fuss, although the middle east is a very scary place to be, and i would never go there.

" He and I have also agreed to be married, and there is a since of rush on his part but not on mine... I have questioned him extensivelly as to why he wants to marry an american, and the answer is always the same, vaguely I just always wanted an american. This I hate to hear, but is his reaction.  I will admit that I am afraid as hell to go to his country, and I worry if he is lying to me as well."

 

Wow! this raises immediate red flags for me. I hope you reread these words and really think about what you have said. Sounds like someone who should be avoided at all costs, certainly not someone that *I* would want to have as a friend, let alone as a spouse, even if as you say,he does not use profanity, is not a muslim. What is it that makes you believe that he loves you totally? Abdullah is saying the same thing about Katherine. Please think carefully about this and discuss it with your friends, family, counselor. Although we are strangers, I can't help but be concerned about you. All the best to you!

 
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November 15, 2007, 3:20 pm PST

11/15 A Daughter in Danger? Part 2

Quote From: rarebeauty

I knew the day  I saw the previews on this show I had to watch it. I am currently in the same situation, dating a man although not in the middle east, but outside the country. He and I have also agreed to be married, and there is a since of rush on his part but not on mine. Although for us it has been almost a year since we first met, and I have fallen in love and plan to marry him as well.  I felt the need to get to know him first. It is hard to know of someone that many miles away, the phone, and internet and lettters helps a little, but its not like spending time in person.  I have questioned him extensivelly as to why he wants to marry an american, and the answer is always the same, vaguely I just always wanted an american. This I hate to hear, but is his reaction.  I will admit that I am afraid as hell to go to his country, and I worry if he is lying to me as well. I am a lot older than katherine and my fiance is a lot older than her boyfriend.  However my fiance does not use profanity, is not a muslim, and loves me totally. I dont quite understand the fuss, although the middle east is a very scary place to be, and i would never go there.

If that's the only thing they say to you "I want an American " I would really question their motives.  He gets a free pass to the U.S. if he Marys you.  Anyone can say anything or pretend to be anything on the Internet. Scam artists come from every where and from every religion. Just because your older does not make you wiser.  Scam artists are good at what they do and they find a person weakness and use it to their advantage. If you are worrying that is your compass  that something is not right.

 
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November 15, 2007, 7:39 pm PST

Romance with men or women in other countries

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I knew the day  I saw the previews on this show I had to watch it. I am currently in the same situation, dating a man although not in the middle east, but outside the country. He and I have also agreed to be married, and there is a since of rush on his part but not on mine. Although for us it has been almost a year since we first met, and I have fallen in love and plan to marry him as well.  I felt the need to get to know him first. It is hard to know of someone that many miles away, the phone, and internet and lettters helps a little, but its not like spending time in person.  I have questioned him extensivelly as to why he wants to marry an american, and the answer is always the same, vaguely I just always wanted an american. This I hate to hear, but is his reaction.  I will admit that I am afraid as hell to go to his country, and I worry if he is lying to me as well. I am a lot older than katherine and my fiance is a lot older than her boyfriend.  However my fiance does not use profanity, is not a muslim, and loves me totally. I dont quite understand the fuss, although the middle east is a very scary place to be, and i would never go there.

You are wise to be concerned. It is hard enough to make a relationship/marriage work when both are in the same country without going outside of it to meet and marry a person from another culture and upbringing you don't know. Some go there and don't return or are locked in a room all day. Then there are the ones who treat the person wonderful. It is very easy to do that for a short time - until the marriage is over and that person is in the USA.  Anyone can pretend they are loving and caring online.

 

Many of these men are very abusive. They were brought up in another culture. I don't know of anyone who has had it work out for them but do know ones who have regretted the day they met that person online.

 

The man on Dr Phil is clearly a liar. He has told only lies so far. You can see that he didn't own that property that he says he "sold".  He looked like a person who wants to be in total control. He never ever plans to leave his family and come here. That was another of his many lies. As soon as this girl leaves he will be online tellling his lies to another person on the internet. He is probably doing that already. It was her reaching out to him and saying she wanted to stay longer because she likes it there! She doesn't but I bet he makes her say that or just doesn't want to see his anger.  

 

I know a woman who is 51 years old and has already got her visa to visit and marry her online guy from Morocco in Africa. They have never met in person. I have talked to her and others have too but so far it has done no good. Her children are concerned for her. Some over there have a lifetime goal of coming to the USA. They will say or do anything to get this accomplished. Other pretend they want to come here to get the woman there. They know the things to say and some even read from a script. These people can be very convincing but it is lies. The most educated smart people have been lied to and believed it.

 

I talk to people like this every day when they contact me on yahoo messenger. Some just want out of their country but most are scammers. Those people have made billions of dollars scamming people out of money using the "love game".  Some are boys at the cafe and some are men. So many men in the USA are scammed by "women" who are really men pretending to be women over there. The dating and singles sites are full of them using stolen pics.

 

You might want to google romancescams. I have never been scammed but just about everyone on the group (11,000) members have been or know someone who has been. Some have lost everything to these scammers.

 

 

Ann

 

 

 
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November 15, 2007, 10:36 pm PST

"don't understand the fuss"

Quote From: rarebeauty

I knew the day  I saw the previews on this show I had to watch it. I am currently in the same situation, dating a man although not in the middle east, but outside the country. He and I have also agreed to be married, and there is a since of rush on his part but not on mine. Although for us it has been almost a year since we first met, and I have fallen in love and plan to marry him as well.  I felt the need to get to know him first. It is hard to know of someone that many miles away, the phone, and internet and lettters helps a little, but its not like spending time in person.  I have questioned him extensivelly as to why he wants to marry an american, and the answer is always the same, vaguely I just always wanted an american. This I hate to hear, but is his reaction.  I will admit that I am afraid as hell to go to his country, and I worry if he is lying to me as well. I am a lot older than katherine and my fiance is a lot older than her boyfriend.  However my fiance does not use profanity, is not a muslim, and loves me totally. I dont quite understand the fuss, although the middle east is a very scary place to be, and i would never go there.

If you read the book, "Behind the Veil" and see the movie, "Not Without My Daughter" you will understand it better.
 


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