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November 20, 2007, 6:58 pm PST
 Quote From: kellykhb OK...I was at the second taping with my mother and I have to say, I agree that the husband needs help. I agree that he has an anger issue that needs to be dealt with. I actually believe that he believes that he has committed a crime somewhere, some place and he might have.
No one makes any comments or statements of his military background. Being married to ex-military...now law enforcement, daughter of a retired probation officer and surrounded by that type of life style all my life, his behavior with regards to the ex-FBI guy was not suprising. Anyone who wears a uniform is conditioned to NOT look at individuals as the wife stated as "human". If they stop just for one moment and "feel" anything, I could mean their life. FAMILY is all you have when overseas, on the streets, anywhere. The rest is being honorable and completing your mission and/or job the best one can. I would have to say, I understand both sides because WE are not the one experiencing this situation and it's real easy to sit up there and judge. I will say that if anyone thought I was a danger especially to my children, I would be anger that someone, anyone would not remove them from my home. That they would allow the possibility of them getting hurt or worse. His anger came from a place of protection which is what he did for our country. That is something that not all of you can say you are willing to do.
This show left me feeling that the wife was looking for a way out and weak. And as for the husband, now that he is on psych meds and open for critism and judgement...broken. I think is was sad and pathetic to here that his own father handed him a gun and one bullet, that he feels he's not worthy of being a "man" in his family.
I hope Dr. Phil really does get to the bottom of it. I really hope that both parties can find some peace. But more than anything, those children (all of them) are protected from harsh comments and learn, experience that there are healthy and happy relationships that can be established. I definitely want to agree with you. NOBODY knows what kind of situation this truly is because they are not in it themselves. I totally understand the position of anger from many people. It is true that if this man raped and killed anyone he should be held totally accountable for his crimes. However, I don't believe any of us have the right to sit here, not knowing the total story, and call this woman stupid or think that her or her husband are less than us. I believe that everyone makes mistakes. Granted some are WAY bigger than others but the point is is that there is a difference between a remorseful person and a cold-hearted killer. This man might very well be a murderer and a rapist, but I believe that he truly is a remorseful person. If he wasn't sorry for what he had done he would never have even brought up the subject of the rape and murder of these people. I believe that he really does love his wife and childen and that he wanted deeply in his heart to receive the help that he knew he needed in order to save his family. Unfortunately, it is too late. I think we should take this as a warning. If you ever think that you have a problem like this, seek help immediately. You might not think it could ever escalate into something this serious but the truth is that you never know. I hope to God that this woman can receive some peace in her life, not only for herself, but for her kids. I also pray that this man receives the same peace, even if it is behind bars. It seems like they have all been struggling for a very long time and they all deserve better, especially the children. |
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November 21, 2007, 8:24 am PST
Quote From: kellykhb OK...I was at the second taping with my mother and I have to say, I agree that the husband needs help. I agree that he has an anger issue that needs to be dealt with. I actually believe that he believes that he has committed a crime somewhere, some place and he might have.
No one makes any comments or statements of his military background. Being married to ex-military...now law enforcement, daughter of a retired probation officer and surrounded by that type of life style all my life, his behavior with regards to the ex-FBI guy was not suprising. Anyone who wears a uniform is conditioned to NOT look at individuals as the wife stated as "human". If they stop just for one moment and "feel" anything, I could mean their life. FAMILY is all you have when overseas, on the streets, anywhere. The rest is being honorable and completing your mission and/or job the best one can. I would have to say, I understand both sides because WE are not the one experiencing this situation and it's real easy to sit up there and judge. I will say that if anyone thought I was a danger especially to my children, I would be anger that someone, anyone would not remove them from my home. That they would allow the possibility of them getting hurt or worse. His anger came from a place of protection which is what he did for our country. That is something that not all of you can say you are willing to do.
This show left me feeling that the wife was looking for a way out and weak. And as for the husband, now that he is on psych meds and open for critism and judgement...broken. I think is was sad and pathetic to here that his own father handed him a gun and one bullet, that he feels he's not worthy of being a "man" in his family.
I hope Dr. Phil really does get to the bottom of it. I really hope that both parties can find some peace. But more than anything, those children (all of them) are protected from harsh comments and learn, experience that there are healthy and happy relationships that can be established. I think that is the most reasonable, thought out response I have heard and the fact that you were there while the show was taping gives you much better insight than those of us out in TV land. |
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November 21, 2007, 10:08 am PST
Quote From: kellykhb OK...I was at the second taping with my mother and I have to say, I agree that the husband needs help. I agree that he has an anger issue that needs to be dealt with. I actually believe that he believes that he has committed a crime somewhere, some place and he might have.
No one makes any comments or statements of his military background. Being married to ex-military...now law enforcement, daughter of a retired probation officer and surrounded by that type of life style all my life, his behavior with regards to the ex-FBI guy was not suprising. Anyone who wears a uniform is conditioned to NOT look at individuals as the wife stated as "human". If they stop just for one moment and "feel" anything, I could mean their life. FAMILY is all you have when overseas, on the streets, anywhere. The rest is being honorable and completing your mission and/or job the best one can. I would have to say, I understand both sides because WE are not the one experiencing this situation and it's real easy to sit up there and judge. I will say that if anyone thought I was a danger especially to my children, I would be anger that someone, anyone would not remove them from my home. That they would allow the possibility of them getting hurt or worse. His anger came from a place of protection which is what he did for our country. That is something that not all of you can say you are willing to do.
This show left me feeling that the wife was looking for a way out and weak. And as for the husband, now that he is on psych meds and open for critism and judgement...broken. I think is was sad and pathetic to here that his own father handed him a gun and one bullet, that he feels he's not worthy of being a "man" in his family.
I hope Dr. Phil really does get to the bottom of it. I really hope that both parties can find some peace. But more than anything, those children (all of them) are protected from harsh comments and learn, experience that there are healthy and happy relationships that can be established. I very much agree with this writer. While none of this excuses Wade's behaior, it does provide a better understanding and a reminder that there is always more than meets the eye. |
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November 22, 2007, 3:31 am PST
Quote From: kellykhb OK...I was at the second taping with my mother and I have to say, I agree that the husband needs help. I agree that he has an anger issue that needs to be dealt with. I actually believe that he believes that he has committed a crime somewhere, some place and he might have.
No one makes any comments or statements of his military background. Being married to ex-military...now law enforcement, daughter of a retired probation officer and surrounded by that type of life style all my life, his behavior with regards to the ex-FBI guy was not suprising. Anyone who wears a uniform is conditioned to NOT look at individuals as the wife stated as "human". If they stop just for one moment and "feel" anything, I could mean their life. FAMILY is all you have when overseas, on the streets, anywhere. The rest is being honorable and completing your mission and/or job the best one can. I would have to say, I understand both sides because WE are not the one experiencing this situation and it's real easy to sit up there and judge. I will say that if anyone thought I was a danger especially to my children, I would be anger that someone, anyone would not remove them from my home. That they would allow the possibility of them getting hurt or worse. His anger came from a place of protection which is what he did for our country. That is something that not all of you can say you are willing to do.
This show left me feeling that the wife was looking for a way out and weak. And as for the husband, now that he is on psych meds and open for critism and judgement...broken. I think is was sad and pathetic to here that his own father handed him a gun and one bullet, that he feels he's not worthy of being a "man" in his family.
I hope Dr. Phil really does get to the bottom of it. I really hope that both parties can find some peace. But more than anything, those children (all of them) are protected from harsh comments and learn, experience that there are healthy and happy relationships that can be established. I THINK MICHELLE BAITED WADE ON AND OFF THE SHOW. SHE IS PLAYING THE VICTIM FOR ALL IT'S WORTH. YES, SHE HAS BEEN THRU A LOT BUT SHE NEEDS TO STOP PLAYING THE VICTIM AND EITHER LEAVE HIM OR HELP HIM. EVEN IF IT MEANS HE HAS TO BE HOSPITALIZED FOR SOMETIME. IF HE DID DO ALL THESE THINGS SHE SHOULD BE LONG GONE W/ THEIR KIDS AND ONLY SEE HIM W/ SUPERVISION.
IF WHAT SHE SAID JACK, THE POLYGRAPH MAN, TOLD HER TO DO TO GET WADE TO TALK, IS TRUE, JACK SHOULD BE PUT UP ON SOME KIND OF CHARGES FOR BAITING WADE AND PUTTING MICHELLE IN DANGER. HOW WOULD JACK HAVE FELT IF WADE HAD KILLED HER IN ONE OF THE ROLE PLAYINGS JACK TOLD HER TO DO? OF COURSE IF SHE WAS KILLED NO ONE WOULD HAVE KNOWN JACK TOLD HER TO DO WHAT SHE DID. ONLY SHE AND JACK KNEW. DR PHIL NEEDS TO INVESTGATE JACK FOR HIS TACTICS. AND WHY IS THE POLYGRAPH MAN TELLING HER WHAT TO DO ANYWAY. SHE SHOULD BE ASKING DR. PHIL.
I BELIEVE WADE WAS RIGHT IN HIS ANGER TOWARD JACK (ON STAGE) FOR WHAT HE HAD MICHELLE DO. WADE'S ANGER THEN WAS JUSTIFIED AND NOT TO OVER THE TOP. I BELIEVE IT CAME FROM HIS DESIRE TO PROTECT HIS FAMILY AND THE POSTION JACK PUT MICHELLE IN. HE WAS ANGRY W/ JACK FOR PUTTING HIS WIFE IN A "DANGEROUS" SITUATION. SUPPOSEDLY JACK THOUGHT WADE WAS A MURDER BUT PUT MICHELLE INTO A DANGEROUS SITUATION ANYWAY. NOT A SMART THING TO DO. SOMETHING SHOULD BE DONE TO JACK FOR HIS ALMOST FATAL MISTAKE. JACK'S DEFENSE WAS WADE SHOULDN'T HAVE TOLD HIS WIFE HE KILLED SOMEONE. WHAT CRAP........... WHEN WADE WAS YELLING AT JACK, JACK SAID MICHELLE HAD NO WHERE TO GO. SO SHE STAYED IN THE HOUSE W/ A MURDER. BULL SH........SHE COULD HAVE GONE TO THE POLICE. JACK WAS WRONG AND SHOULD PAY FOR HIS MISTAKE. HE HAD NO BUSINESS GIVING ADVICE.
IF WADE IS A MURDER, I WONDER IF IT IS PART OF HIS PTSD. THERE HAVE BEEN CASES OF MEN COMING BACK W/ SYMPTOMS JUST LIKE WADES. LIFE LIKE DREAMS THAT ARE NOT REAL AND SOME MEN HAVE KILLED THEMSELVES OVER IT.
DR. LAWLESS NEEDS TO CONTINUE TO EVALUATE AND TO HELP WADE TILL HE IS HEALTHY AND NORMAL AGAIN. THIS COUNTRY OWES THIS TO ALL THE MEN AND WOMEN COMING HOME FROM WAR. SO MANY OF THEM HAVE PROBLEMS LIKE WADE'S. SOME NOT AS BAD SOME WORSE. THERE ARE PROBABLY MANY MEN OUT THERE RAPING, MURDERING, ETC DUE TO THEIR MENTAL PROBLEMS FROM THE WAR. MOST WE WILL NEVER KNOW ABOUT OF COURSE. AND SOME MAY BE KILLING THEMSELVES BECAUSE OF WHAT THEIR MINDS ARE DOING TO THEM.AND THIS COUNTRY IS IGNORING SO MANY OF THEM.
DR. LAWLESS EVEN SAID WADE HAS A PROBLEM WITH REALITY. DR. PHIL SAID THEY HAVEN'T FOUND PROOF OF A BODY BY THE HIGHWAY. SO IT MAY ALL BE IN WADES MIND. LETS HOPE SO AND HE CAN BE HELPED.
I WISH THE BEST FOR WADE AND HIS FAMILY. ONLY TIME AND TREATMENT WILL TELL.
MICHELLE; BE PATIENCE AND SUPPORTIVE WEATHER YOU STAY MARRIED OR NOT. HE HIS YOUR CHILDRENS FATHER. THEY WILL NEED HIM WHEN HE IS WELL. ALSO STOP PLAYING THE VICTIM AND STOP BAITING WADE. MAYBE HAVE NO CONTACT FOR AWHILE AND LET THE DOCTORS HELP HIM.
DR. PHIL COULD HAVE HANDLED THE STAGE SITUATION BETTER MANY TIMES. MICHELLE DIDN'T NEED TO ATTACK WADE. DR. PHIL SHOULD HAVE CONFRONTED JACK PERIOD. |
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November 22, 2007, 12:28 pm PST
Quote From: kellykhb OK...I was at the second taping with my mother and I have to say, I agree that the husband needs help. I agree that he has an anger issue that needs to be dealt with. I actually believe that he believes that he has committed a crime somewhere, some place and he might have.
No one makes any comments or statements of his military background. Being married to ex-military...now law enforcement, daughter of a retired probation officer and surrounded by that type of life style all my life, his behavior with regards to the ex-FBI guy was not suprising. Anyone who wears a uniform is conditioned to NOT look at individuals as the wife stated as "human". If they stop just for one moment and "feel" anything, I could mean their life. FAMILY is all you have when overseas, on the streets, anywhere. The rest is being honorable and completing your mission and/or job the best one can. I would have to say, I understand both sides because WE are not the one experiencing this situation and it's real easy to sit up there and judge. I will say that if anyone thought I was a danger especially to my children, I would be anger that someone, anyone would not remove them from my home. That they would allow the possibility of them getting hurt or worse. His anger came from a place of protection which is what he did for our country. That is something that not all of you can say you are willing to do.
This show left me feeling that the wife was looking for a way out and weak. And as for the husband, now that he is on psych meds and open for critism and judgement...broken. I think is was sad and pathetic to here that his own father handed him a gun and one bullet, that he feels he's not worthy of being a "man" in his family.
I hope Dr. Phil really does get to the bottom of it. I really hope that both parties can find some peace. But more than anything, those children (all of them) are protected from harsh comments and learn, experience that there are healthy and happy relationships that can be established. I thoroughly agree with this person's assesment of Wade. As far as the comments about his "Flash Anger", I don't believe this was an accurate statement. Obviously, Wade has deep seated mental problems, and he was pushed to his breaking point. HEY FOLKS... the man came on the show of his free will. I believe he wants help. What Wade said to the x-FBI agent was absolutely the truth. I would have done the same thing as Wade... I would have been livid with that agent for "playing games" trying to trap him with his wife. If the wife and children are suspected of being in danger... GET THEM OUT NOW. You don't ass around playing games.
None of us who have never been in war, police, FBI, CIA, or any of these types of work will EVER know what these jobs do to a person's mind. It changes a person. As American citizens, we don't appreciate these people enough for what they do for us DAILY.
My heart goes out to Wade, and if he can stay with Dr. Loller in Dallas and with Dr. Phil, I have ever confidence that they can get to the root of his problem and help him.
As far as Wade being "over sexed"... most men are. Some of us have learned to control it better than Wade. Many have not.
At 70, the one thing I have learned is NEVER judge a situation too quickly. There are always reasons for everything we do... good and bad. Also, the GREATEST BLESSING in my learning experience has been Dr. Phil. I am totally in his debt for what he teaches me day by day. The world would be so much better if everyone stopped each day to spend an hour with him. Love you, Big'Un... keep on doing what you do... you're better than any religion, philosophical experience, or anything else I have ever experienced in my life. Thank you for helping me find BALANCE in my life.
Sincerely,
Gearron Sublett |
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November 22, 2007, 3:10 pm PST
Quote From: kellykhb OK...I was at the second taping with my mother and I have to say, I agree that the husband needs help. I agree that he has an anger issue that needs to be dealt with. I actually believe that he believes that he has committed a crime somewhere, some place and he might have.
No one makes any comments or statements of his military background. Being married to ex-military...now law enforcement, daughter of a retired probation officer and surrounded by that type of life style all my life, his behavior with regards to the ex-FBI guy was not suprising. Anyone who wears a uniform is conditioned to NOT look at individuals as the wife stated as "human". If they stop just for one moment and "feel" anything, I could mean their life. FAMILY is all you have when overseas, on the streets, anywhere. The rest is being honorable and completing your mission and/or job the best one can. I would have to say, I understand both sides because WE are not the one experiencing this situation and it's real easy to sit up there and judge. I will say that if anyone thought I was a danger especially to my children, I would be anger that someone, anyone would not remove them from my home. That they would allow the possibility of them getting hurt or worse. His anger came from a place of protection which is what he did for our country. That is something that not all of you can say you are willing to do.
This show left me feeling that the wife was looking for a way out and weak. And as for the husband, now that he is on psych meds and open for critism and judgement...broken. I think is was sad and pathetic to here that his own father handed him a gun and one bullet, that he feels he's not worthy of being a "man" in his family.
I hope Dr. Phil really does get to the bottom of it. I really hope that both parties can find some peace. But more than anything, those children (all of them) are protected from harsh comments and learn, experience that there are healthy and happy relationships that can be established. I hope that you Dr Phil realize the truth about each case of PTSD can be manifest in many manners. One such thing is that the denial of PTSD or need of help is nothing more then a cover up for the true problem. I know I am a Viet Nam Vet who suffers from this. I have been in counseling for some time I work daily to resolve the flash back and the protect myself from the issue of PTSD. I am not saying that he has it and until he has done the program of Veteran Adminastration to determine if in fact this just a coverup or truly a service related problem that he needs to resolve. One also has to understnd there is no cure for PTSD just alot of aqnswer that one has to take . I do not know what he was involved in during the GULF War. I do know What I was involved in Viet Nam also the fact that I am not on the Wall in DC but as many 32 names I do know. It is one of the hardest things at time to deal with but I work on it each and every time the doubt occurs. I can not take durgs because of a very strong addiction to them, it is no ones fualt but mine for this addiction. I just had a terrible accident in my work shop which resulted in the lost of one finger and the laseration of 2 others, I was proscrbed morfine for the pian but very reluctant do to the fact of fear of addiction. I only hope that understand at this piont in time Wade's world is crashing around him and if in fact he has PTSD the show the compassion for him. He needs to take the responsibility for any or all actions but he also what ever he has encountered he must face bring it under control. |
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July 30, 2008, 3:32 pm PDT
Quote From: kellykhb OK...I was at the second taping with my mother and I have to say, I agree that the husband needs help. I agree that he has an anger issue that needs to be dealt with. I actually believe that he believes that he has committed a crime somewhere, some place and he might have. No one makes any comments or statements of his military background. Being married to ex-military...now law enforcement, daughter of a retired probation officer and surrounded by that type of life style all my life, his behavior with regards to the ex-FBI guy was not suprising. Anyone who wears a uniform is conditioned to NOT look at individuals as the wife stated as 'human'. If they stop just for one moment and 'feel' anything, I could mean their life. FAMILY is all you have when overseas, on the streets, anywhere. The rest is being honorable and completing your mission and/or job the best one can. I would have to say, I understand both sides because WE are not the one experiencing this situation and it's real easy to sit up there and judge. I will say that if anyone thought I was a danger especially to my children, I would be anger that someone, anyone would not remove them from my home. That they would allow the possibility of them getting hurt or worse. His anger came from a place of protection which is what he did for our country. That is something that not all of you can say you are willing to do. This show left me feeling that the wife was looking for a way out and weak. And as for the husband, now that he is on psych meds and open for critism and judgement...broken. I think is was sad and pathetic to here that his own father handed him a gun and one bullet, that he feels he's not worthy of being a 'man' in his family. I hope Dr. Phil really does get to the bottom of it. I really hope that both parties can find some peace. But more than anything, those children (all of them) are protected from harsh comments and learn, experience that there are healthy and happy relationships that can be established. I agree 100% I watched Monday, Tuesday and today's episode. At first I thought he was just a lying cheating dog. After today's episode, I began to thing differently and when I heard that he had been diagnosed with PTSD. My father was a veteran in the second world war. He had seen many things which were too horrifying to speak of. Many people thought he was cold, but as mentioned above, anyone in uniform has to be conditioned not to feel. I don't believe for a moment that Wade has killed or raped anybody. My feelings are he has possibly witnessed and/or been part of some atrocities while overseas and is not able to discern between fact and reality. I do believe that he has committed adultery and that may very well be who he is, regardless of PTSD.
Today's episode left me very annoyed with Michelle. She came off sounding like a whiner and a martyr. You know what you need to do, get out of the marriage based on the infidelities alone.
The former FBI guy is a total jerk and was taunting Wade. Personally I think he deserved a good boot in the ass. He resorted to rather childish behavior when Wade brought up the question that begged to be asked. If he is such a threat to the family..GET THEM THE HELL OUT OF THE HOUSE!
I dated and am still close friends with an ex military career man. He was in Bosnia and was diagnosed with PTSD upon his return. He had such low self esteem by the time he came back. He shared a story with me which scared both me and himself. He had once tried to choke a former girlfriend in the middle of the night. He was having a nightmare about being overseas and when he woke up she was struggling to get his hands off of her neck! All this to say, Wade I wish you the very best of luck and will say a prayer for you that you are able to get back to good health.
Good luck to you and your family. C |
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July 31, 2008, 9:03 am PDT
Quote From: kellykhb OK...I was at the second taping with my mother and I have to say, I agree that the husband needs help. I agree that he has an anger issue that needs to be dealt with. I actually believe that he believes that he has committed a crime somewhere, some place and he might have.
No one makes any comments or statements of his military background. Being married to ex-military...now law enforcement, daughter of a retired probation officer and surrounded by that type of life style all my life, his behavior with regards to the ex-FBI guy was not suprising. Anyone who wears a uniform is conditioned to NOT look at individuals as the wife stated as "human". If they stop just for one moment and "feel" anything, I could mean their life. FAMILY is all you have when overseas, on the streets, anywhere. The rest is being honorable and completing your mission and/or job the best one can. I would have to say, I understand both sides because WE are not the one experiencing this situation and it's real easy to sit up there and judge. I will say that if anyone thought I was a danger especially to my children, I would be anger that someone, anyone would not remove them from my home. That they would allow the possibility of them getting hurt or worse. His anger came from a place of protection which is what he did for our country. That is something that not all of you can say you are willing to do.
This show left me feeling that the wife was looking for a way out and weak. And as for the husband, now that he is on psych meds and open for critism and judgement...broken. I think is was sad and pathetic to here that his own father handed him a gun and one bullet, that he feels he's not worthy of being a "man" in his family.
I hope Dr. Phil really does get to the bottom of it. I really hope that both parties can find some peace. But more than anything, those children (all of them) are protected from harsh comments and learn, experience that there are healthy and happy relationships that can be established. I agree with you in that Wade has committed horrible crimes somewhere, someplace. I understand all what you say about his military background, HOWEVER, he is his own person and needs to take responsibility for what he has done and what he has put his wife through. He needs help BAD. I felt sorry for his wife and all what she has been through but at the same time, she needs to get out and get those children AND herself to safety. |
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