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October 8, 2005, 7:22 am PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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First of all, I wondered throughout the whole show if that woman has ever heard of a BREAST PUMP?????  If she is so determined to breastfeed in the first place, why doesn't she use a breast pump at home and then she can feed her child in public with a bottle of breast milk? Am I being unreasonable here? I agree with the other lady, I certainly don't want to see anybody's boobs and especially while I'm trying to eat dinner. It's just in poor taste.

two words. Nipple confusion. 

Then of course you have to try and warm up the bottle. 

and keep it cool before you warm it up. 

  

all this to make someone happy, when the milk is PERFECT and at no risk of souring in moms breast.   

  

"I dont think so Tim" 

 
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October 8, 2005, 7:25 am PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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First of all, I wondered throughout the whole show if that woman has ever heard of a BREAST PUMP?????  If she is so determined to breastfeed in the first place, why doesn't she use a breast pump at home and then she can feed her child in public with a bottle of breast milk? Am I being unreasonable here? I agree with the other lady, I certainly don't want to see anybody's boobs and especially while I'm trying to eat dinner. It's just in poor taste.

I do pump, but no pump will extract the amount of milk that the baby can, and some babies will refuse a bottle if mom is there.  So if your idea were to actually work, the mom would be forced to sometimes bottle feed at home and that woudl negatively impact her milk supply.   

I pump while I am at work, only to keep my milk supply going - I get 2 oz total and that will not satisfy any baby except a newborn - my son is 13 months old. 

 
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October 8, 2005, 7:33 am PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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First of all, I wondered throughout the whole show if that woman has ever heard of a BREAST PUMP?????  If she is so determined to breastfeed in the first place, why doesn't she use a breast pump at home and then she can feed her child in public with a bottle of breast milk? Am I being unreasonable here? I agree with the other lady, I certainly don't want to see anybody's boobs and especially while I'm trying to eat dinner. It's just in poor taste.
 Okay, you need to do some serious research on this topic.  To know so little and actually have an opinion on the matter is... nevermind.

Some babies don't even take bottles.  It took mine almost a year to take one.  Not only that, but bottlefeeding breastmilk early on can be detrimental to the mother's milk supply and can also cause "nipple confusion", causing the baby to have issues latching on to the breast properly, and this can cause all sorts of issues from cracked, bleeding nipples to a dwindling milk supply, which can lead to early and undesirable weaning.

It's really quite simple.  DON'T LOOK.  If you catch a half second glance of upper or lower breast skin as an infant latches on, well....... I see more breast exposed every day on television and on magazines.  Give me a break. 

A little maturity is in order here.  Babies and mammals are meant to have their own mom's milk suckled from a nipple.  If you see this as somehow detrimental to you or those that may witness this act occurring, or if you see a breast as a sexual object or view feeding a baby akin to someone taking a crap, I suggest you find a highly trained therapist in your area to help you overcome your own personal issues.


 
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October 8, 2005, 7:36 am PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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First of all, I wondered throughout the whole show if that woman has ever heard of a BREAST PUMP?????  If she is so determined to breastfeed in the first place, why doesn't she use a breast pump at home and then she can feed her child in public with a bottle of breast milk? Am I being unreasonable here? I agree with the other lady, I certainly don't want to see anybody's boobs and especially while I'm trying to eat dinner. It's just in poor taste.
 Yep - extremely unreasonable.  I own a breast pump.  It took me nearly a week of pumping to get a bottle of 60ml of milk so my mum could look after my son for an hour while I went to the doctor!  It just doesnt work for some of us.  Would it also be in poor taste if you had to endure watching a disabled adult be feed a meal in public, while dribbling and maybe even spitting?  I suppose we should just ban these poor people from eating in public places also, they should be kept behind closed doors I guess so you are able to enjoy your meal.  Tolerance is an incredible thing.  Be less judgemental and if things in public places like this are going to bother you, then stay home to eat!  What is this world coming to. I had an experience recently when I had both of my children in a food court in a shopping centre eating lunch.  My 15 month old was pushing a chair back and forth making some noise, I had a women who felt it was her right to approach me and ask me to stop her from doing it......   I had to say excuse me I cant hear what you are saying, there was so much other noise in the foodcourt drowning out her voice.  These are public places, anyone who thinks that they can dictate to others what is appropriate or not needs to take a good hard look at their own lives - are they missing out on something and filling it in with whining.  Please leave us alone to look after our children.
 
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October 8, 2005, 7:38 am PDT

breast pumps and plunging necklines

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First of all, I wondered throughout the whole show if that woman has ever heard of a BREAST PUMP?????  If she is so determined to breastfeed in the first place, why doesn't she use a breast pump at home and then she can feed her child in public with a bottle of breast milk? Am I being unreasonable here? I agree with the other lady, I certainly don't want to see anybody's boobs and especially while I'm trying to eat dinner. It's just in poor taste.

Your suggestion is nice and ill-informed. Not all women have success with breast pumps, and not all women can afford them, so that is not a solution for everyone. 

  

I've never seen a nursing mother bear her entire breast, nipple and all, in public. The most anyone has ever seen of my breast in public while I was feeding my daughter was still less than most teen girls show at the mall with their two-sizes-too-small belly tops with the plunging necklines. Have you ever worn a plunging neckline? If so, you're more guilty of sharing your boobs than I've ever been. 

  

I'm not going to stop breastfeeding my daughter when she needs it just because of people who are searching for petty reasons to be offended. 

 
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October 8, 2005, 7:39 am PDT

why only pump

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First of all, I wondered throughout the whole show if that woman has ever heard of a BREAST PUMP?????  If she is so determined to breastfeed in the first place, why doesn't she use a breast pump at home and then she can feed her child in public with a bottle of breast milk? Am I being unreasonable here? I agree with the other lady, I certainly don't want to see anybody's boobs and especially while I'm trying to eat dinner. It's just in poor taste.

Why is a pump the only option?  What about discretely breast feeding? My babies wouldn't take a fake nipple until they were 6 and 8 months old. Is it the act of breast feeding or the thought that offends you? Do the low cut shirts that leave little to the imagination bother you when you eat?  

 
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October 8, 2005, 8:07 am PDT

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First of all, I wondered throughout the whole show if that woman has ever heard of a BREAST PUMP?????  If she is so determined to breastfeed in the first place, why doesn't she use a breast pump at home and then she can feed her child in public with a bottle of breast milk? Am I being unreasonable here? I agree with the other lady, I certainly don't want to see anybody's boobs and especially while I'm trying to eat dinner. It's just in poor taste.
the next time you are out for dinner... count how may women you see with exposed cleavage, or a short skirt. you are seeing alot more skin in an apparant and intentional public display then you will see when a mama bfs.oh, and try turniong on you television. again, lets count cleavage, references to breasts, thongs, pasties.... its a shame so many women have been brainwashed by society into thinking that breatfeeding is "in poor taste".
 
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October 8, 2005, 8:37 am PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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First of all, I wondered throughout the whole show if that woman has ever heard of a BREAST PUMP?????  If she is so determined to breastfeed in the first place, why doesn't she use a breast pump at home and then she can feed her child in public with a bottle of breast milk? Am I being unreasonable here? I agree with the other lady, I certainly don't want to see anybody's boobs and especially while I'm trying to eat dinner. It's just in poor taste.
As a father of two and a husband of a busy wife, I've experienced the breast pump ordeal.  You mentioned that a feeding mom should be determined?  Where is your determination?   Are you even trying to understand a tired mom, trying to have a life and feeding her child?  Besides being tired due to lack of sleep there is the wild hormone ride and recovery from a major surgery (C-section).  It is very hard and you obviously have never been there are saw it first hand with any concern for the child or mom like I have.   Shame, shame, shame on you - these our PEOPLE we are talking about - you know human beings with feelings and needs.   Females with breasts that feed babies is just too much for you huh?  Well all the people who think it's poor taste in the world can't stop this natural occurrence in life.  If your sensibilities are more important than a baby and a mother then something is wrong.   Having a baby is very difficult and a pump does not make it easier for the mom or the baby - only for you.  It makes feeding a baby take twice as long - once for filling the bottle from the pumping and then again to empty into the child.  It is not possible to take over an hour to feed a baby every other hour.  That is ALL YOU  WOULD BE DOING ALL DAY.  I don't want to see you slobbering food into your unreasonable head but if I can put up with you can't you have some compassion for a little baby and a tired mom
 
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October 8, 2005, 8:44 am PDT

Breastfeeding in Public

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First of all, I wondered throughout the whole show if that woman has ever heard of a BREAST PUMP?????  If she is so determined to breastfeed in the first place, why doesn't she use a breast pump at home and then she can feed her child in public with a bottle of breast milk? Am I being unreasonable here? I agree with the other lady, I certainly don't want to see anybody's boobs and especially while I'm trying to eat dinner. It's just in poor taste.
Thank You!  I'm 8 months pregnant and I have every intention of breastfeeding.  But they do make pumps and even storage containers so that you could freeze your milk and always have some on hand.  I think it is in poor taste and no matter how much people want to pretend that it is not a sexual stimuli it still is.  Especially the teenage boys that are waiters at the restaurants.  It's so easy to have a little consideration and respect other people.
 
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October 8, 2005, 9:01 am PDT

Breast pump... not that easy

Quote From: nitehelen4

First of all, I wondered throughout the whole show if that woman has ever heard of a BREAST PUMP?????  If she is so determined to breastfeed in the first place, why doesn't she use a breast pump at home and then she can feed her child in public with a bottle of breast milk? Am I being unreasonable here? I agree with the other lady, I certainly don't want to see anybody's boobs and especially while I'm trying to eat dinner. It's just in poor taste.

In regard to breast pumps:  

  

It's not as easy a solution as it sounds. Say you just had your baby a few weeks ago and are getting out of the house for the first time.  Using a breast pump to express milk and feed it to the baby in a bottle is actually a bad thing to do the first few weeks.  Artificial nipples may cause nipple confusion in the baby, starting a whole round of problems breastfeeding, which are not in the best interest of the baby. A baby needs the plentiful nourishment of his or her mother's milk, and nipple confusion may cause latch on problems that will affect the quantity of milk received, and thus, the baby's growth (a problem totally preventable in such a case!).  

  

As for older babies, pumping might be an option if the mother can actually afford a breast pump. They are very expensive!! Buying one just for the sake of pumping a few times is definitely not worth it.  Not only that, but substituting a bottle for the breast will undoubtedly lead to a decrease in milk supply.  Milk production is based on a supply-and-demand system activated by a baby's sucking. So, if you pump ahead of time and then skip several feedings, your milk supply will suffer, and thus, again, your baby's growth. 

  

Finally, I also agree with the previous comment that the woman on the show against public breastfeeding has an issue she could not admit. She clearly has an issue with an infant sucking the breast of a woman (a sexual issue), because it is still unacceptable for her to see a breastfeeding baby without seeing even a sliver of the woman's breast. Her issue is really with what she KNOWS is going on (an infant sucking a woman's nipple), not with what she can ACTUALLY SEE (the back of a baby's head positioned to the side of a woman's chest).  

  

IT IS ALL IN THE EYE OF THE BEHOLDER. Think about it. 

  

(Obviously, this does not apply to women who expose their breast before getting the child ready to nurse. As a public breastfeeder, I know it is possible to be more discreet than that.) 

 


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