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I disagree with human conditioning, it may stretch boundaries beyond the norm of your social or religious conditioning

Exactly where did I say social or religious conditioning? I said human.

As a sexual being and I thank God for that, he could have made us like animals , only sexual at certain times or seasons. That is part of being human.

Having an isatiable appetite for sexual gratification is an animalistic behavior. It brings one down to an animal like state. When I say insatiable, I mean quite frankly, that your sexual appetitte can not be satisfied by your spouse which is WHY you choose the lifestyle. And for the record, there are many species of animal that mate for life, so your comparison is rudimentary at best. There are however, species of monkey that engage in sexual behaviors for anything but, procreation. Hmm....

We do not swing with anyone who is stressed to be there, why would we? We are there to have fun and sex.

Of course not. You find like minded people who are also sexually insatiable and you feed off of each other's wants.

Most of our close friends, the kind of friends that would help you bury the body type, have started within the context of swinging. We can be more open and honest with them about all that happens in our lives than we can be with "vanilla" friends, they are a lot less judgmental.

So what you're saying is that swingers basically have no boundaries??? Isn't that what I said???

"Help you hide the body types" as opposed to doing the right thing? How could other swingers be judgmental? They are afterall, engaged in the same behaviors as you, correct???

Go to any "vanilla" social event and watch the reaction to a sexy lady entering the room, some folks will almost shun her, others will almost drool, neither would happen at a swingers event. She would be allowed to be sexy and who she is.

This is a highly unlikely scenario for many reasons. Swingers are not lacking in jealousy, envy, or haughtiness. "Vanilla" folks don't have a market on those emotions. I have interviewed hundreds of people in the lifestyle (for a college thesis on human sexuality) and from what I've been told there is an enormous amount of jealousy, pettiness, envy, and separatism based on outward appearances. I mean think about it... would anyones real sexual fantasy involve a rotund, unattractive woman? Or a short, balding, unattractive man? I doubt it based on my research. As a matter of fact, I found that most swingers are either.... middle aged and less than average in appearance or young and totally lacking in maturity and experience. They often times engage in sex with people who they see as below themselves (whether that be physically, intellectually, or fianancially.) This from the horses mouth.

Vanilla is a term in the swing world to describe non-swingers and I won't go into what "pistachio" means LOL

Don't you mean un-evolved? It seems to me that there is a fair amount of judgment from your side as well.

I disagree with human conditioning, it may stretch boundaries beyond the norm of your social or religious conditioning

Exactly where did I say social or religious conditioning? I said human.

As a sexual being and I thank God for that, he could have made us like animals , only sexual at certain times or seasons. That is part of being human.

Having an isatiable appetite for sexual gratification is an animalistic behavior. It brings one down to an animal like state. When I say insatiable, I mean quite frankly, that your sexual appetitte can not be satisfied by your spouse which is WHY you choose the lifestyle. And for the record, there are many species of animal that mate for life, so your comparison is rudimentary at best. There are however, species of monkey that engage in sexual behaviors for anything but, procreation. Hmm....

We do not swing with anyone who is stressed to be there, why would we? We are there to have fun and sex.

Of course not. You find like minded people who are also sexually insatiable and you feed off of each other's wants.

Most of our close friends, the kind of friends that would help you bury the body type, have started within the context of swinging. We can be more open and honest with them about all that happens in our lives than we can be with "vanilla" friends, they are a lot less judgmental.

So what you're saying is that swingers basically have no boundaries??? Isn't that what I said???

"Help you hide the body types" as opposed to doing the right thing? How could other swingers be judgmental? They are afterall, engaged in the same behaviors as you, correct???

Go to any "vanilla" social event and watch the reaction to a sexy lady entering the room, some folks will almost shun her, others will almost drool, neither would happen at a swingers event. She would be allowed to be sexy and who she is.

This is a highly unlikely scenario for many reasons. Swingers are not lacking in jealousy, envy, or haughtiness. "Vanilla" folks don't have a market on those emotions. I have interviewed hundreds of people in the lifestyle (for a college thesis on human sexuality) and from what I've been told there is an enormous amount of jealousy, pettiness, envy, and separatism based on outward appearances. I mean think about it... would anyones real sexual fantasy involve a rotund, unattractive woman? Or a short, balding, unattractive man? I doubt it based on my research. As a matter of fact, I found that most swingers are either.... middle aged and less than average in appearance or young and totally lacking in maturity and experience. They often times engage in sex with people who they see as below themselves (whether that be physically, intellectually, or fianancially.) This from the horses mouth.

Vanilla is a term in the swing world to describe non-swingers and I won't go into what "pistachio" means LOL

Don't you mean un-evolved? It seems to me that there is a fair amount of judgment from your side as well.