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Either God will forgive me my sins or he will punish me for them ..... His choice

I figure I have either already damned myself or I haven't .... His choice

My choice is to be a swinger and enjoy sex, I haven't killed anyone and I love my wife and kids

Last Saturday night my wife and I went to dinner with another couple in the lifestyle. We ate, and danced and then went to their house. He is a retired, decorated veteran who was in the US Air Force for 25 years and earned a Purple Heart and a Bronze Star.

While the ladies were playing with each other he and I shot some pool and talked.

When he was 20 he did a year in Viet Nam as a sniper sitting at the edge of air bases making sure no unfriendly folks snuck onto the air base. He killed about 100 enemy soldiers and was told by his Chaplin that God would forgive him because he was under orders to kill by the President of these United States.

He laughed long and hard when I told him that some people on the Dr Phil board thought he and I  would be going to Hell for having sex with each others wife.

He figures he has a lot more to important issues to talk to God about.

So the question is was the Chaplin wrong about breaking the *not kill* commandment and still be able to get God to forgive? Or will he be forgiven for the killings and then sent to Hell for having consensual sex with my 54 year old wife, he is 58

I still have not gotten an answer to thios question from someone who quotes Bible verse

Swinging must be Hell and the expectation of that place for eternity...swinger's choice. Free Will. It must suck to only do something 2 or 3 times a year, but know that you are damned for all eternity because of your choice..Your choice.

Cfnamier says ' Either God will forgive me my sins or he will punish me for them..His choice. (Wrong,  your choice.) I figure I have either damned myself or I haven't..His choice.. (Wrong, Your choice.) My choice is to swing and enjoy sex." Swinging 3 to 4 times a year, and choosing Hell, is definitely already Hell. Your choice.

And if single and all alone Christab called that Happy, then go for it. Your choice. One who admits to being single and watching his friends swing from the side lines because he lacks guts...His choice. But, according to Cfnamier swinging is placing himself at risk of Hell and damnation for ETERNITY, for 2 maybe 3 times a year of swinging....His choice.

Rose petals, just because you love her, or roses on Valentine's Day, are part of the Fairy Tale and not a Fantasy. Got it Mr. Single and Lonely. But, your choice.

I had a girl once tell me that she did not like roses, because they died within days and that was wasted money. We went out on a dinner date, with couples all around, and a flower girl was asking the gentlemen if they wanted roses for their date. I watched and some did. As the lady approached, I remembered what my date had said, but chose to follow my heart.I got her the roses and she felt like one of the special girls.  I asked her later, about what she had said and what if I had not gotten her the rose. Her reply was that it would have been the wrong move for me. My choice.

Yes, swinging is Hell, when for 2 to 3 times a year, you figure that you might be already damned. How is that Happy? Single and Lonely, who contemplates swinging as a way to get the sex he can't get, would not know. Married and Together, already anticipates receiving the punishment of Eternal Damnation to join Satan. Sorry, it must be Hell, whenever you hear a bump in the dark, when you must wonder if Satan is coming to take you home already...Your choice.

Happiness should give you peace, and pleasing God should make you happy. Your choice. I wouldn't want to tell you what to do.