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03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

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They are not the "school's" children. They are not the psychologist's children. They are not the teacher's children. They are not the government's children. They are our children.

 

Passing out birth control not only promotes, it aids and abets sexual immorality and usurps the authority of the child's parents to instill their values in their children. Bad behavior doesn't decrease when it is subsidized and accepted as normal, it increases. It only decreases when it is stigmatized. Peer pressure can be just as much a tool for the promotion of good behavior as it can for bad behavior. Holding people accountable and fully responsible for bad behavior is powerful motivation for people to abstain from bad behavior. When evil is exalted evil becomes rampant. When evil is demonized evil becomes rare.

 

Buying condoms for teenagers who are sexually immoral does nothing to encourage abstinence. Rather it supports their sexual immorality. Condoms are cheap and readily available. If sexually active teens wanted to use them they would buy them. They have them in men's restrooms all over the place and they are cheap. They are in every drug store and many department stores. They are not having sex without them because they are expensive or unavailable...so what is the purpose of passing them out at school?

 

Are they embarrassed to buy them at a drug store? Then why aren't they embarrassed to ask for them at school? They can purchase them at most gas stations in the restroom without any embarrassment at all. Is 50 cents or a dollar beyond their budget? They wear 100 dollar shoes, have cell phones, ipods, cars, bank accounts, jobs, video games, etc.  but they cannot afford to purchase a condom? Come on! Get real!

 

Godless outsiders are not only trying to indoctrinate our children with their godless immorality they are trying to force us into letting them teach it to our children and make us subsidize it, and we object. They are not your children, they're ours.

 

Godless outsiders are trying to promote, aid and abet teenage sex by giving them condoms and birth control without our approval and we object. They are our children, not yours.

 

Condoms are not safe no matter how many times you claim they are. Only asbstinence is 100% safe 100% of the time. Using condoms for sex is like playing Russian roulette. Keep playing and eventually you will reap the devastating consequences. To tell a child that condoms are safe is like telling a child an "unloaded" gun is safe. Condom promotion makes a child feel there will be no consequences if they are used consistently and anyone who is honest knows that ain't so. They leak, break and slip off. In spite of condom pusher's adamant assurances that condoms make sex safe they know they don't. It is a myth promoted by godless people who make up lies to win the argument. They really don't care about the tragic consequences of the lives of people who were destroyed because they foolshly believed them.

 

Untold numbers of unborn babies will be slaughtered because teens believed condoms are safe. Untold numbers of girls will become pregnant because they believed condoms are safe. Untold numbers of boys will get a girl pregnant because they were told condoms are safe.  Untold numbers of teens will get STD's because liars told them condoms make sex safe. But where will these condom pushing liars be when teens become victims of their lies...in their ivory towers spouting the same old crap.

 

Some condom pushers will give you a ride to a baby killing facility to help you murder your unborn child...that is what they do best...destroy people. Will they support your choice to raise your child...will they pay your rent, doctor bills, utilities, hospital bills, food, clothing, etc.? No, not personally. But they will make sure the government robs poor working slobs who are struggling to make a decent living and life for their own families. The elites don't want to personally pay for the consequences of their advise, they prefer to force others to do it.

 

Dr. Phil ought to be required by law to support every child conceived as a result of condom failure by those who believed his "condoms make sex safe" advise. He ought to pay all medical and hospital expenses of everyone who got an STD or AIDS as a result of condom failure. Step up to the plate Dr. Phil. Put you money where your mouth is. If someone believes you and starts having sex with condoms and the condom fails and they get pregnant or STD's you need to do the right thing and take full responsibility for your "expert" advise. 

 

What about the rest of you condom pushers? Are you gonna step up to the plate when people reap the devastating consequences of following your advise?

 

Abstinence pushers are willing to step up to the plate if anyone gets pregnant or an STD as a result of abstinence.

 

Condom pushers will never voluntarily step up to the plate and take full financial responsibility for the lives they devastate with their lies. They prefer to force everyone else to pay for the consequences of their advise.  Drugs, cigarettes, alcohol, sexual immorality, etc. They don't want moral people to tell anyone how to live. They fight to make sure everyone is free to do whatever is right in their own eyes and when the immoral reap the consequences of their immoral choices, they dump the burden on the hardworking middle class by increasing their taxes. It's risk free for the elite. It's a win-win for immoral people who do evil and only a lose-lose for moral, hard working, taxpaying families.

 

Oh, did I mention? They are our children, not yours.

A standing ovation!!!!!!  Right on!!!!

I wouldn't necessarily bame Dr. Phil for any thing though.  The show hasn't even aired yet.

 
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03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

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They are not the "school's" children. They are not the psychologist's children. They are not the teacher's children. They are not the government's children. They are our children.

 

Passing out birth control not only promotes, it aids and abets sexual immorality and usurps the authority of the child's parents to instill their values in their children. Bad behavior doesn't decrease when it is subsidized and accepted as normal, it increases. It only decreases when it is stigmatized. Peer pressure can be just as much a tool for the promotion of good behavior as it can for bad behavior. Holding people accountable and fully responsible for bad behavior is powerful motivation for people to abstain from bad behavior. When evil is exalted evil becomes rampant. When evil is demonized evil becomes rare.

 

Buying condoms for teenagers who are sexually immoral does nothing to encourage abstinence. Rather it supports their sexual immorality. Condoms are cheap and readily available. If sexually active teens wanted to use them they would buy them. They have them in men's restrooms all over the place and they are cheap. They are in every drug store and many department stores. They are not having sex without them because they are expensive or unavailable...so what is the purpose of passing them out at school?

 

Are they embarrassed to buy them at a drug store? Then why aren't they embarrassed to ask for them at school? They can purchase them at most gas stations in the restroom without any embarrassment at all. Is 50 cents or a dollar beyond their budget? They wear 100 dollar shoes, have cell phones, ipods, cars, bank accounts, jobs, video games, etc.  but they cannot afford to purchase a condom? Come on! Get real!

 

Godless outsiders are not only trying to indoctrinate our children with their godless immorality they are trying to force us into letting them teach it to our children and make us subsidize it, and we object. They are not your children, they're ours.

 

Godless outsiders are trying to promote, aid and abet teenage sex by giving them condoms and birth control without our approval and we object. They are our children, not yours.

 

Condoms are not safe no matter how many times you claim they are. Only asbstinence is 100% safe 100% of the time. Using condoms for sex is like playing Russian roulette. Keep playing and eventually you will reap the devastating consequences. To tell a child that condoms are safe is like telling a child an "unloaded" gun is safe. Condom promotion makes a child feel there will be no consequences if they are used consistently and anyone who is honest knows that ain't so. They leak, break and slip off. In spite of condom pusher's adamant assurances that condoms make sex safe they know they don't. It is a myth promoted by godless people who make up lies to win the argument. They really don't care about the tragic consequences of the lives of people who were destroyed because they foolshly believed them.

 

Untold numbers of unborn babies will be slaughtered because teens believed condoms are safe. Untold numbers of girls will become pregnant because they believed condoms are safe. Untold numbers of boys will get a girl pregnant because they were told condoms are safe.  Untold numbers of teens will get STD's because liars told them condoms make sex safe. But where will these condom pushing liars be when teens become victims of their lies...in their ivory towers spouting the same old crap.

 

Some condom pushers will give you a ride to a baby killing facility to help you murder your unborn child...that is what they do best...destroy people. Will they support your choice to raise your child...will they pay your rent, doctor bills, utilities, hospital bills, food, clothing, etc.? No, not personally. But they will make sure the government robs poor working slobs who are struggling to make a decent living and life for their own families. The elites don't want to personally pay for the consequences of their advise, they prefer to force others to do it.

 

Dr. Phil ought to be required by law to support every child conceived as a result of condom failure by those who believed his "condoms make sex safe" advise. He ought to pay all medical and hospital expenses of everyone who got an STD or AIDS as a result of condom failure. Step up to the plate Dr. Phil. Put you money where your mouth is. If someone believes you and starts having sex with condoms and the condom fails and they get pregnant or STD's you need to do the right thing and take full responsibility for your "expert" advise. 

 

What about the rest of you condom pushers? Are you gonna step up to the plate when people reap the devastating consequences of following your advise?

 

Abstinence pushers are willing to step up to the plate if anyone gets pregnant or an STD as a result of abstinence.

 

Condom pushers will never voluntarily step up to the plate and take full financial responsibility for the lives they devastate with their lies. They prefer to force everyone else to pay for the consequences of their advise.  Drugs, cigarettes, alcohol, sexual immorality, etc. They don't want moral people to tell anyone how to live. They fight to make sure everyone is free to do whatever is right in their own eyes and when the immoral reap the consequences of their immoral choices, they dump the burden on the hardworking middle class by increasing their taxes. It's risk free for the elite. It's a win-win for immoral people who do evil and only a lose-lose for moral, hard working, taxpaying families.

 

Oh, did I mention? They are our children, not yours.

In my experience, Godly teens get pregnant as often as "unGodly?" teens.
 
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March 2, 2008, 7:13 pm PST

Are you kidding (coming from a teen)

Quote From: gramgos

They are not the "school's" children. They are not the psychologist's children. They are not the teacher's children. They are not the government's children. They are our children.

 

Passing out birth control not only promotes, it aids and abets sexual immorality and usurps the authority of the child's parents to instill their values in their children. Bad behavior doesn't decrease when it is subsidized and accepted as normal, it increases. It only decreases when it is stigmatized. Peer pressure can be just as much a tool for the promotion of good behavior as it can for bad behavior. Holding people accountable and fully responsible for bad behavior is powerful motivation for people to abstain from bad behavior. When evil is exalted evil becomes rampant. When evil is demonized evil becomes rare.

 

Buying condoms for teenagers who are sexually immoral does nothing to encourage abstinence. Rather it supports their sexual immorality. Condoms are cheap and readily available. If sexually active teens wanted to use them they would buy them. They have them in men's restrooms all over the place and they are cheap. They are in every drug store and many department stores. They are not having sex without them because they are expensive or unavailable...so what is the purpose of passing them out at school?

 

Are they embarrassed to buy them at a drug store? Then why aren't they embarrassed to ask for them at school? They can purchase them at most gas stations in the restroom without any embarrassment at all. Is 50 cents or a dollar beyond their budget? They wear 100 dollar shoes, have cell phones, ipods, cars, bank accounts, jobs, video games, etc.  but they cannot afford to purchase a condom? Come on! Get real!

 

Godless outsiders are not only trying to indoctrinate our children with their godless immorality they are trying to force us into letting them teach it to our children and make us subsidize it, and we object. They are not your children, they're ours.

 

Godless outsiders are trying to promote, aid and abet teenage sex by giving them condoms and birth control without our approval and we object. They are our children, not yours.

 

Condoms are not safe no matter how many times you claim they are. Only asbstinence is 100% safe 100% of the time. Using condoms for sex is like playing Russian roulette. Keep playing and eventually you will reap the devastating consequences. To tell a child that condoms are safe is like telling a child an "unloaded" gun is safe. Condom promotion makes a child feel there will be no consequences if they are used consistently and anyone who is honest knows that ain't so. They leak, break and slip off. In spite of condom pusher's adamant assurances that condoms make sex safe they know they don't. It is a myth promoted by godless people who make up lies to win the argument. They really don't care about the tragic consequences of the lives of people who were destroyed because they foolshly believed them.

 

Untold numbers of unborn babies will be slaughtered because teens believed condoms are safe. Untold numbers of girls will become pregnant because they believed condoms are safe. Untold numbers of boys will get a girl pregnant because they were told condoms are safe.  Untold numbers of teens will get STD's because liars told them condoms make sex safe. But where will these condom pushing liars be when teens become victims of their lies...in their ivory towers spouting the same old crap.

 

Some condom pushers will give you a ride to a baby killing facility to help you murder your unborn child...that is what they do best...destroy people. Will they support your choice to raise your child...will they pay your rent, doctor bills, utilities, hospital bills, food, clothing, etc.? No, not personally. But they will make sure the government robs poor working slobs who are struggling to make a decent living and life for their own families. The elites don't want to personally pay for the consequences of their advise, they prefer to force others to do it.

 

Dr. Phil ought to be required by law to support every child conceived as a result of condom failure by those who believed his "condoms make sex safe" advise. He ought to pay all medical and hospital expenses of everyone who got an STD or AIDS as a result of condom failure. Step up to the plate Dr. Phil. Put you money where your mouth is. If someone believes you and starts having sex with condoms and the condom fails and they get pregnant or STD's you need to do the right thing and take full responsibility for your "expert" advise. 

 

What about the rest of you condom pushers? Are you gonna step up to the plate when people reap the devastating consequences of following your advise?

 

Abstinence pushers are willing to step up to the plate if anyone gets pregnant or an STD as a result of abstinence.

 

Condom pushers will never voluntarily step up to the plate and take full financial responsibility for the lives they devastate with their lies. They prefer to force everyone else to pay for the consequences of their advise.  Drugs, cigarettes, alcohol, sexual immorality, etc. They don't want moral people to tell anyone how to live. They fight to make sure everyone is free to do whatever is right in their own eyes and when the immoral reap the consequences of their immoral choices, they dump the burden on the hardworking middle class by increasing their taxes. It's risk free for the elite. It's a win-win for immoral people who do evil and only a lose-lose for moral, hard working, taxpaying families.

 

Oh, did I mention? They are our children, not yours.

 Seriously wake up and get real!! Go to any high shool in any state and you will find that at least 40 percent of the teenagers have sex! Godly or not! People need  to wake up and realize that no matter how many times you say be abstinent some teens are gonna have sex!! Now, you say condoms arent 100 percent affective and thats true but which is safer,  having unprotected sex or using a condom?! And seriously "godless outsiders"?? get real! they  are just trying to protect kids from getting pregnant and if the "godless outsiders" didnt give teens condoms i  promise you there would be a lot more pregnant teens. You can sit the on your high horse and think youre doing something good for your kids by saying all this but  YOURE NOT! the people giving out condoms are doing more good than you ever will! Oh and just cause a teen has sex doesnt make them godless....god forgives peoples sins f.y.i.!         I grew up in church and all my life i heard about abstinence but no one ever said anything about protection so when i was 12 i ended up losing my virginity ( which was the biggest mistake of  my life)  and i was unprotected.....thank god  i didnt get pregnant but there are alot of teens who do! The important thing is not to sit there and tell your kids not to have sex but for your kids to know how to be protected... and that they can talk to you and not feel ashamed of they are having sex. If not youre not helping them at all!
 
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They are not the "school's" children. They are not the psychologist's children. They are not the teacher's children. They are not the government's children. They are our children.

 

Passing out birth control not only promotes, it aids and abets sexual immorality and usurps the authority of the child's parents to instill their values in their children. Bad behavior doesn't decrease when it is subsidized and accepted as normal, it increases. It only decreases when it is stigmatized. Peer pressure can be just as much a tool for the promotion of good behavior as it can for bad behavior. Holding people accountable and fully responsible for bad behavior is powerful motivation for people to abstain from bad behavior. When evil is exalted evil becomes rampant. When evil is demonized evil becomes rare.

 

Buying condoms for teenagers who are sexually immoral does nothing to encourage abstinence. Rather it supports their sexual immorality. Condoms are cheap and readily available. If sexually active teens wanted to use them they would buy them. They have them in men's restrooms all over the place and they are cheap. They are in every drug store and many department stores. They are not having sex without them because they are expensive or unavailable...so what is the purpose of passing them out at school?

 

Are they embarrassed to buy them at a drug store? Then why aren't they embarrassed to ask for them at school? They can purchase them at most gas stations in the restroom without any embarrassment at all. Is 50 cents or a dollar beyond their budget? They wear 100 dollar shoes, have cell phones, ipods, cars, bank accounts, jobs, video games, etc.  but they cannot afford to purchase a condom? Come on! Get real!

 

Godless outsiders are not only trying to indoctrinate our children with their godless immorality they are trying to force us into letting them teach it to our children and make us subsidize it, and we object. They are not your children, they're ours.

 

Godless outsiders are trying to promote, aid and abet teenage sex by giving them condoms and birth control without our approval and we object. They are our children, not yours.

 

Condoms are not safe no matter how many times you claim they are. Only asbstinence is 100% safe 100% of the time. Using condoms for sex is like playing Russian roulette. Keep playing and eventually you will reap the devastating consequences. To tell a child that condoms are safe is like telling a child an "unloaded" gun is safe. Condom promotion makes a child feel there will be no consequences if they are used consistently and anyone who is honest knows that ain't so. They leak, break and slip off. In spite of condom pusher's adamant assurances that condoms make sex safe they know they don't. It is a myth promoted by godless people who make up lies to win the argument. They really don't care about the tragic consequences of the lives of people who were destroyed because they foolshly believed them.

 

Untold numbers of unborn babies will be slaughtered because teens believed condoms are safe. Untold numbers of girls will become pregnant because they believed condoms are safe. Untold numbers of boys will get a girl pregnant because they were told condoms are safe.  Untold numbers of teens will get STD's because liars told them condoms make sex safe. But where will these condom pushing liars be when teens become victims of their lies...in their ivory towers spouting the same old crap.

 

Some condom pushers will give you a ride to a baby killing facility to help you murder your unborn child...that is what they do best...destroy people. Will they support your choice to raise your child...will they pay your rent, doctor bills, utilities, hospital bills, food, clothing, etc.? No, not personally. But they will make sure the government robs poor working slobs who are struggling to make a decent living and life for their own families. The elites don't want to personally pay for the consequences of their advise, they prefer to force others to do it.

 

Dr. Phil ought to be required by law to support every child conceived as a result of condom failure by those who believed his "condoms make sex safe" advise. He ought to pay all medical and hospital expenses of everyone who got an STD or AIDS as a result of condom failure. Step up to the plate Dr. Phil. Put you money where your mouth is. If someone believes you and starts having sex with condoms and the condom fails and they get pregnant or STD's you need to do the right thing and take full responsibility for your "expert" advise. 

 

What about the rest of you condom pushers? Are you gonna step up to the plate when people reap the devastating consequences of following your advise?

 

Abstinence pushers are willing to step up to the plate if anyone gets pregnant or an STD as a result of abstinence.

 

Condom pushers will never voluntarily step up to the plate and take full financial responsibility for the lives they devastate with their lies. They prefer to force everyone else to pay for the consequences of their advise.  Drugs, cigarettes, alcohol, sexual immorality, etc. They don't want moral people to tell anyone how to live. They fight to make sure everyone is free to do whatever is right in their own eyes and when the immoral reap the consequences of their immoral choices, they dump the burden on the hardworking middle class by increasing their taxes. It's risk free for the elite. It's a win-win for immoral people who do evil and only a lose-lose for moral, hard working, taxpaying families.

 

Oh, did I mention? They are our children, not yours.

 

When evil is exalted evil becomes rampant. When evil is demonized evil becomes rare.

 

If this is true, then why are there STI's and pregnancies on many Christian campuses?  I mean, isn't making something taboo just enhancing it's appeal?

 
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March 4, 2008, 2:54 pm PST

03/03 Teens and Sex with Bishop T.D. Jakes

Quote From: gramgos

They are not the "school's" children. They are not the psychologist's children. They are not the teacher's children. They are not the government's children. They are our children.

 

Passing out birth control not only promotes, it aids and abets sexual immorality and usurps the authority of the child's parents to instill their values in their children. Bad behavior doesn't decrease when it is subsidized and accepted as normal, it increases. It only decreases when it is stigmatized. Peer pressure can be just as much a tool for the promotion of good behavior as it can for bad behavior. Holding people accountable and fully responsible for bad behavior is powerful motivation for people to abstain from bad behavior. When evil is exalted evil becomes rampant. When evil is demonized evil becomes rare.

 

Buying condoms for teenagers who are sexually immoral does nothing to encourage abstinence. Rather it supports their sexual immorality. Condoms are cheap and readily available. If sexually active teens wanted to use them they would buy them. They have them in men's restrooms all over the place and they are cheap. They are in every drug store and many department stores. They are not having sex without them because they are expensive or unavailable...so what is the purpose of passing them out at school?

 

Are they embarrassed to buy them at a drug store? Then why aren't they embarrassed to ask for them at school? They can purchase them at most gas stations in the restroom without any embarrassment at all. Is 50 cents or a dollar beyond their budget? They wear 100 dollar shoes, have cell phones, ipods, cars, bank accounts, jobs, video games, etc.  but they cannot afford to purchase a condom? Come on! Get real!

 

Godless outsiders are not only trying to indoctrinate our children with their godless immorality they are trying to force us into letting them teach it to our children and make us subsidize it, and we object. They are not your children, they're ours.

 

Godless outsiders are trying to promote, aid and abet teenage sex by giving them condoms and birth control without our approval and we object. They are our children, not yours.

 

Condoms are not safe no matter how many times you claim they are. Only asbstinence is 100% safe 100% of the time. Using condoms for sex is like playing Russian roulette. Keep playing and eventually you will reap the devastating consequences. To tell a child that condoms are safe is like telling a child an "unloaded" gun is safe. Condom promotion makes a child feel there will be no consequences if they are used consistently and anyone who is honest knows that ain't so. They leak, break and slip off. In spite of condom pusher's adamant assurances that condoms make sex safe they know they don't. It is a myth promoted by godless people who make up lies to win the argument. They really don't care about the tragic consequences of the lives of people who were destroyed because they foolshly believed them.

 

Untold numbers of unborn babies will be slaughtered because teens believed condoms are safe. Untold numbers of girls will become pregnant because they believed condoms are safe. Untold numbers of boys will get a girl pregnant because they were told condoms are safe.  Untold numbers of teens will get STD's because liars told them condoms make sex safe. But where will these condom pushing liars be when teens become victims of their lies...in their ivory towers spouting the same old crap.

 

Some condom pushers will give you a ride to a baby killing facility to help you murder your unborn child...that is what they do best...destroy people. Will they support your choice to raise your child...will they pay your rent, doctor bills, utilities, hospital bills, food, clothing, etc.? No, not personally. But they will make sure the government robs poor working slobs who are struggling to make a decent living and life for their own families. The elites don't want to personally pay for the consequences of their advise, they prefer to force others to do it.

 

Dr. Phil ought to be required by law to support every child conceived as a result of condom failure by those who believed his "condoms make sex safe" advise. He ought to pay all medical and hospital expenses of everyone who got an STD or AIDS as a result of condom failure. Step up to the plate Dr. Phil. Put you money where your mouth is. If someone believes you and starts having sex with condoms and the condom fails and they get pregnant or STD's you need to do the right thing and take full responsibility for your "expert" advise. 

 

What about the rest of you condom pushers? Are you gonna step up to the plate when people reap the devastating consequences of following your advise?

 

Abstinence pushers are willing to step up to the plate if anyone gets pregnant or an STD as a result of abstinence.

 

Condom pushers will never voluntarily step up to the plate and take full financial responsibility for the lives they devastate with their lies. They prefer to force everyone else to pay for the consequences of their advise.  Drugs, cigarettes, alcohol, sexual immorality, etc. They don't want moral people to tell anyone how to live. They fight to make sure everyone is free to do whatever is right in their own eyes and when the immoral reap the consequences of their immoral choices, they dump the burden on the hardworking middle class by increasing their taxes. It's risk free for the elite. It's a win-win for immoral people who do evil and only a lose-lose for moral, hard working, taxpaying families.

 

Oh, did I mention? They are our children, not yours.

You're right about condoms. They don't always worked. Years before he met me, my husband used a condom every time. Because he wasn't married and didn't want to get anyone pregnant. But, one of his condoms failed. And, his girlfriend got pregnant. Birth control pills don't always prevent pregnancy, either. His granddaughter was put on the pills at 13 to regulate her period. Because they were so heavy she kept passing out from the blood loss. And, after four years on the pills, she got pregnant.
 


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