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March 6, 2008, 4:29 pm PST

Finally someone who has given this some thought~

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This is a topic that has come up more than once between my circle of friends. We have talked it and taked it to death many times. There is no good answer.

Firstly, these people have to live somewhere. Our laws do not allow them to be taken out of society permanantly. Truthfully, I find the idea of them living all in the same building, isn't a bad idea.

My big problem with the sex offenders registery is that today someone can be labled a sex offender for getting drunk and taking a whizz on the side of the road. There are many people out there that have been forced to register for petty stupid little things that shouldn't be listed as a sex crime. Forcing someone to register as a sex offender should be saved for those who truly are sex offenders. And I hate to say it, but if this country is gonna place a scarlet letter on these people's chest and basicly prevent them from being able to work and live anywhere, then the bovernment should figure out a way to house and feed these people. You can't make a group of people pariahs and not see to their well being.
I am the mother of a sex offender...I'll explain, my son at the age of 19 ( by one month) met a girl on MySpace whom he thought was 21.  She had posted 21, she looked 18, I think. They got together after chatting online several times.  He has always liked girls a few years older than him...he asked questions such as "where's your car"  she replied, "it's in the shop", he made other comments and asked other things, she had a reply that would validate her age of 21.  They were together consensually twice.  This girl has been dating a 23 year old and others, my son just happened to be the one to admit to knowing her and being with her, he didn't think anything of it when questioned by the authorities.  This girl was actually 14, her father is an investigator the the local sheriff's dept.  My son is sitting in jail with a whole bunch of young guys in this same situation, he is also sitting in jail with a man that sexually abused his own 4 year old daughter, older men who have forced themselves on young girls within the same age of the girl that my son was with.  I ask why do we place ALL of these people in the same bucket and label them the same?  My thoughts are that the sex offenders have different classifications for the degree of the offense.  Do you agree?  I thought the same as all of you who have expressed your thoughts and feelings as to where they should live and how "they" should be treated by society.  I thought those thoughts until I walked in the shoes of the mother of a sex offender.  I can't express the hurt that I feel, not for me, but for my son and the other kids that do have the scarlet letter forever stamped on their forehead.  Where does my son live when he gets out, where does he work, is banning sex offenders from neighborhoods discrimination, is it fair?  This "girl" that I speak of is still advertising herself on MySpace, with the same age of 21 posted, with the same picture that makes her look pretty close to the age she has posted.  Her life didn't stop, her life didn't change, she's not locked up for entrapment or lying or changing my son's life forever.  What's fair about that~ 
 

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March 6, 2008, 5:01 pm PST

Have pleaded for help from Dr. Phil

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This is a topic that has come up more than once between my circle of friends. We have talked it and taked it to death many times. There is no good answer.

Firstly, these people have to live somewhere. Our laws do not allow them to be taken out of society permanantly. Truthfully, I find the idea of them living all in the same building, isn't a bad idea.

My big problem with the sex offenders registery is that today someone can be labled a sex offender for getting drunk and taking a whizz on the side of the road. There are many people out there that have been forced to register for petty stupid little things that shouldn't be listed as a sex crime. Forcing someone to register as a sex offender should be saved for those who truly are sex offenders. And I hate to say it, but if this country is gonna place a scarlet letter on these people's chest and basicly prevent them from being able to work and live anywhere, then the bovernment should figure out a way to house and feed these people. You can't make a group of people pariahs and not see to their well being.

Atlast some with some sence in this matter.  I have sent in a reguest to Dr. Phil for the past 4 yrs.

concerning the very issue you explained.  Our newly turned 18 year old had an almost 13 girl that

persissited in being to close.  I am going to post the whole story look for it.  HE was charged as a

sex offender over a petting act.  Most people have NO IDEA what all this means to a non offerner

who is forced to be labeled a "Sex Offender"  Police trickery and State policies are the jury.  If a boy

(18) even sticks his finger into a girl 's (12) ear that would be an offence.  Yes!!! a true offender should

be treated as such.  But how many of us as teens' didn't have a heavy petting experience?  If 12 years

old was like it was in the 60's well.... but now they are 12 going on 20+.  Most are very forward!!!!!!!

I plead again for aid in this matter.  Because of all this it has taking our son 7 year just to get through

college (our own University wouldn't allow him to attend). He is under a contant watchful eye with a PO.

How he has had the where for all to go on at times has amazied us.  This has to change

 
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March 6, 2008, 8:45 pm PST

sex offenders

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This is a topic that has come up more than once between my circle of friends. We have talked it and taked it to death many times. There is no good answer.

Firstly, these people have to live somewhere. Our laws do not allow them to be taken out of society permanantly. Truthfully, I find the idea of them living all in the same building, isn't a bad idea.

My big problem with the sex offenders registery is that today someone can be labled a sex offender for getting drunk and taking a whizz on the side of the road. There are many people out there that have been forced to register for petty stupid little things that shouldn't be listed as a sex crime. Forcing someone to register as a sex offender should be saved for those who truly are sex offenders. And I hate to say it, but if this country is gonna place a scarlet letter on these people's chest and basicly prevent them from being able to work and live anywhere, then the bovernment should figure out a way to house and feed these people. You can't make a group of people pariahs and not see to their well being.
  See to their well being? What about the well being of the victims? Why is there more concern about the offenders than the victims?  I do agree with the statement that the net for offenders is too big. A 17 year old kid having consensual sex with his 16 year old girlfriend having to register is ridiculous. However, I feel they know when they are touching a little kid, or forcibly having sex, and getting a thrill out of it, they know it's wrong. And since they could care less about the victims I could care less about them. Maybe they should think about how it will affect them if they are caught. It's all about choice.
 
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March 7, 2008, 9:04 am PST

YOU LIVE NEXT TO THEM

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This is a topic that has come up more than once between my circle of friends. We have talked it and taked it to death many times. There is no good answer.

Firstly, these people have to live somewhere. Our laws do not allow them to be taken out of society permanantly. Truthfully, I find the idea of them living all in the same building, isn't a bad idea.

My big problem with the sex offenders registery is that today someone can be labled a sex offender for getting drunk and taking a whizz on the side of the road. There are many people out there that have been forced to register for petty stupid little things that shouldn't be listed as a sex crime. Forcing someone to register as a sex offender should be saved for those who truly are sex offenders. And I hate to say it, but if this country is gonna place a scarlet letter on these people's chest and basicly prevent them from being able to work and live anywhere, then the bovernment should figure out a way to house and feed these people. You can't make a group of people pariahs and not see to their well being.

I would tattoo it to there for head!! in red with a big SFsex offender. OHIO, is giving out new lic.plates, for reg.sex offenders, as they do with people have DUIs on their recored. I love it,  show the monster.

The goverment should house these people,  your crazy, I care not if they have to move a million time, make there life hell, as they did to the people they offened,

sex offender are pariahs and should be treated as pariahs, i would lock them up forever

 

there was a man on the news the other day for raping and giving a 2 year old a std,  i would rather shot this man then give him a scarlet letter, but hey, maybe when he gets out he can come live with you.

 
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March 7, 2008, 9:52 am PST

A whizz? Prove it

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This is a topic that has come up more than once between my circle of friends. We have talked it and taked it to death many times. There is no good answer.

Firstly, these people have to live somewhere. Our laws do not allow them to be taken out of society permanantly. Truthfully, I find the idea of them living all in the same building, isn't a bad idea.

My big problem with the sex offenders registery is that today someone can be labled a sex offender for getting drunk and taking a whizz on the side of the road. There are many people out there that have been forced to register for petty stupid little things that shouldn't be listed as a sex crime. Forcing someone to register as a sex offender should be saved for those who truly are sex offenders. And I hate to say it, but if this country is gonna place a scarlet letter on these people's chest and basicly prevent them from being able to work and live anywhere, then the bovernment should figure out a way to house and feed these people. You can't make a group of people pariahs and not see to their well being.

 

I don't believe you.  A. that you talk to your friends about this many times.  Why?  What did they do that is so controversial.

  B.  That someone is registered as a sex offender for taking a whizz on the side of the road.

 

Why should a registered sex offender be allowed to work and live anywhere, at all?  Beyond being shackled and required to pick up road side garbage?

 

Give us any and all cases of those who have had to register as a sex offender for "stupid little things".

 

Maybe we would all agree the offender has a   stupid little thing....however, it is what they did with it that determines their legal status as a registered sex offender.  Every defender of this disgusting behavior  as deserving some element of humane treatment should back up their  wishy washy comments with hard facts and cases. 

 
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March 7, 2008, 10:35 am PST

Desert sounds good

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This is a topic that has come up more than once between my circle of friends. We have talked it and taked it to death many times. There is no good answer.

Firstly, these people have to live somewhere. Our laws do not allow them to be taken out of society permanantly. Truthfully, I find the idea of them living all in the same building, isn't a bad idea.

My big problem with the sex offenders registery is that today someone can be labled a sex offender for getting drunk and taking a whizz on the side of the road. There are many people out there that have been forced to register for petty stupid little things that shouldn't be listed as a sex crime. Forcing someone to register as a sex offender should be saved for those who truly are sex offenders. And I hate to say it, but if this country is gonna place a scarlet letter on these people's chest and basicly prevent them from being able to work and live anywhere, then the bovernment should figure out a way to house and feed these people. You can't make a group of people pariahs and not see to their well being.
I agree that we could take some of the government land in the desert, put the FEMA trailers on it from Katrina, and when they are released they get to live there. We let them live free in exchange for work, they can be bussed to clean freeways,build the border fence, clean up crime sites. And if they do not want to do that then they can opt for surgery, so they can not rape anyone again.
 
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March 7, 2008, 10:38 am PST

Sex Offenders

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This is a topic that has come up more than once between my circle of friends. We have talked it and taked it to death many times. There is no good answer.

Firstly, these people have to live somewhere. Our laws do not allow them to be taken out of society permanantly. Truthfully, I find the idea of them living all in the same building, isn't a bad idea.

My big problem with the sex offenders registery is that today someone can be labled a sex offender for getting drunk and taking a whizz on the side of the road. There are many people out there that have been forced to register for petty stupid little things that shouldn't be listed as a sex crime. Forcing someone to register as a sex offender should be saved for those who truly are sex offenders. And I hate to say it, but if this country is gonna place a scarlet letter on these people's chest and basicly prevent them from being able to work and live anywhere, then the bovernment should figure out a way to house and feed these people. You can't make a group of people pariahs and not see to their well being.

I totally agree with you.  And the registery should be for sexual "predators", not "offenders".  Also, why just single out the sexual offenders for a registery?  If society wants to keep kids safe why aren't drug dealers  listed on the net as well?  And why stop there...anyone that's been arrested for anything should have it displayed on the net for all of the world to see!  You can't descriminate against one type of crime - I'd like to know who the burgulars and drunk drivers are in my community too so I can keep an eye on them! 

 

The bottom line is that everyone should be cautious because we don't really know who our neighbors are or what they are capable of.  Is it really fair to continue to punish these offenders once they are released from prison when they have paid their debt to society. How can any of them possibly start a new life (assuming some of them truly want to), with such a glaring spotlight on them.

 
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March 7, 2008, 3:34 pm PST

03/07 Dr. Phil Now: Sex Offenders Next Door

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This is a topic that has come up more than once between my circle of friends. We have talked it and taked it to death many times. There is no good answer.

Firstly, these people have to live somewhere. Our laws do not allow them to be taken out of society permanantly. Truthfully, I find the idea of them living all in the same building, isn't a bad idea.

My big problem with the sex offenders registery is that today someone can be labled a sex offender for getting drunk and taking a whizz on the side of the road. There are many people out there that have been forced to register for petty stupid little things that shouldn't be listed as a sex crime. Forcing someone to register as a sex offender should be saved for those who truly are sex offenders. And I hate to say it, but if this country is gonna place a scarlet letter on these people's chest and basicly prevent them from being able to work and live anywhere, then the bovernment should figure out a way to house and feed these people. You can't make a group of people pariahs and not see to their well being.

These sex offenders gave up their rights not to be labled with a "scarlet letter" when they commited these acts. People deserve to know when their safety and security are in danger!!! By letting these felons live together, you are only fueling their fires. They are going to talk amongst themselves, and get the urges to attack once again from hearing of attacks on others. If they are stupid enough to commit these crimes, they deserve to have the whole world know about it. I like the ideas that some states are doing of having license plates that announcing their crimes, and I hope even more states pick up on this! I think the registery isn't tough enough! Most offenders can register and the people they interact with on a day-to-day basis still won't know what these monsters have done!!! I think we need to crack down on offenders that don't register. We need to protect the lives and innocence of ourselves and our children!!!! We need to get more involved in knowing what is going on in our communities, and protect ourselves from these monsters. They do not deserve to be able to work anywhere where they may be in contact with possible targets. They do not deserve to live close to children or others that they may attack!

We have NO responsibilites to these people. We don't need to see to their well being...anyone who commits this kind of disgusting crime is on their own!!

 
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March 7, 2008, 3:51 pm PST

03/07 Dr. Phil Now: Sex Offenders Next Door

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This is a topic that has come up more than once between my circle of friends. We have talked it and taked it to death many times. There is no good answer.

Firstly, these people have to live somewhere. Our laws do not allow them to be taken out of society permanantly. Truthfully, I find the idea of them living all in the same building, isn't a bad idea.

My big problem with the sex offenders registery is that today someone can be labled a sex offender for getting drunk and taking a whizz on the side of the road. There are many people out there that have been forced to register for petty stupid little things that shouldn't be listed as a sex crime. Forcing someone to register as a sex offender should be saved for those who truly are sex offenders. And I hate to say it, but if this country is gonna place a scarlet letter on these people's chest and basicly prevent them from being able to work and live anywhere, then the bovernment should figure out a way to house and feed these people. You can't make a group of people pariahs and not see to their well being.
How about we change our laws? One of my favorite quotes comes from the Batman movie...batman begins...."Criminals thrive on the indulgence of society's understanding" yes a quote from a movie...but does that mean it is not the truth? At least how I have always viewed the world. We always have an excuse for these people...they can't help it, it was how they were born, they Are 'trying' not to rape children, or whoever...I mean it goes further then sexual preditors on children, what about women who are raped? and the guy who did it served his 5 years and is now out so he must be okay now...After all he was only in jail for 5 years (with other preditors) Probably didnt learn any new tricks or anything and is probablt rehabilitated...With very little doubt now in cases of innocene or guilt...because of DNA, technology...ect ect...I dont see why we put up with Violent criminals, just because old laws protect these people. Now a guy who is drunk and made a little mistake by showing a bit much of himself, to me is not a violent criminal and should probably do some community service to teach him a lesson...But a man who breaks into a house, takes a child or (anyone) violently rapes them maybe kills them...most of the time they serve a pathedic amount of time in jail, and then are released due to time served or crowded prisons (and that is a REAL issue) I have another idea...its called a needle...its a lot less painful then what they do to their victums...And anyone who wants to tell me my opinion is too strong or lacks compassion....I have little to say to you other then your a weak person who knows little about real life...Ever seen a dead girl? Beating and raped, left under a bridge to die slowly...as she was still alive though her signs of life could only have been measured with high tech equipment? I have...And the person who did it to her was 17...therefore he served a couple of months...im serious....and well lesson learned....Also I myself was a victum of sexual assult at a younge age...and do you know who was punished? me...Because neighbors suddenly wouldnt allow me to go near other children, I was made fun of...I was called names...(I was 4) ...So I say Enough!!!! Enough chances! Enough compassion! These are our lives! Our childrens lives...(I now have 2 children...a boy and a girl) Why is it a right to live even if you take another life away? Why do we care more about the bad guys then we do about the victums? These people made their choices...maybe we should make one ourseves...if anyonne in the government has the guts...Things will only get worse with internet, the way our children dress now, and too many people crowded too close together...My opinion is to fight back...Not with jail time which only costs so much tax money...but with Justice. Im not saying, if you steal a chocolate bar...thats it....Im ONLY talking about proven violent criminals...Or we can continue on...with sooo many missing children out there, or damaged children like myself who spent most of my life ashamed of myself.
 
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March 8, 2008, 10:35 am PST

03/07 Dr. Phil Now: Sex Offenders Next Door

Quote From: ladiehawke

This is a topic that has come up more than once between my circle of friends. We have talked it and taked it to death many times. There is no good answer.

Firstly, these people have to live somewhere. Our laws do not allow them to be taken out of society permanantly. Truthfully, I find the idea of them living all in the same building, isn't a bad idea.

My big problem with the sex offenders registery is that today someone can be labled a sex offender for getting drunk and taking a whizz on the side of the road. There are many people out there that have been forced to register for petty stupid little things that shouldn't be listed as a sex crime. Forcing someone to register as a sex offender should be saved for those who truly are sex offenders. And I hate to say it, but if this country is gonna place a scarlet letter on these people's chest and basicly prevent them from being able to work and live anywhere, then the bovernment should figure out a way to house and feed these people. You can't make a group of people pariahs and not see to their well being.
House and feed them on my dime? NO FRICKIN' WAY. As Dr Phil often says, you choose the behavior, you choose the conseguences. When these sex offenders chose the behavior, raping and molesting women and children, I'm not talking about roadside whizzes, they chose the consequences of being social pariahs.
 


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