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March 11, 2008, 8:45 pm PDT

You get what you ask for!

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I'm not saying that these things did not happen to these girls, but I have traveled numerous times from Las Vegas, NV. and back and have seen, teens and women with hardly anything on fly out of and into Las Vegas, and have not seen them treated any differently.  There have even been Stripperscoming in to work for the weekend or leaving and are barely dressed, and I have never seen an attendant treat them any different.  On the other hand I have seen some barely dressed teens and women, enibriated and making an ass of themselves, and have heard the flight attendants ask them to "please tone it down:, or "clean up their language", or "their are xhildren on this flight".  I've even seen these enibriated girls go as far as trying to get elderly mens attention, and then when they do they would start flashing thier boobs and then laugh and say "don't you wish you can touch these or suck on these", sit with their mini skirts on and have thier legs wide open. I could go on but I will stop with those two incidents.   I've never heard a flight attendant be rude, but who's to say they are not out there.   I'm sure there are plenty, but I have yet to experience it.  But like I said in the beginning I'm not say that these things did not happen to these girls.

 

 I saw the Dr. Phil show and I did not like the fact that you would not accept the South Western apology and the two free tickets anywhere in South Western's world.

Do not burn your bridges behind you!

Quite frankly, it is my opinion that you wanted exposure on the Dr. Phil show and you certainly were noticed on the South Western flight.
Dress as a good, decent , unfluratious woman, and you will never be disrespected.  And that is what these middle aged stewardess did for you.

I believe this did happen to you!  No doubt about it!  You got the respect you deserved.
 
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March 12, 2008, 6:17 am PDT

bad behavior

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I'm not saying that these things did not happen to these girls, but I have traveled numerous times from Las Vegas, NV. and back and have seen, teens and women with hardly anything on fly out of and into Las Vegas, and have not seen them treated any differently.  There have even been Stripperscoming in to work for the weekend or leaving and are barely dressed, and I have never seen an attendant treat them any different.  On the other hand I have seen some barely dressed teens and women, enibriated and making an ass of themselves, and have heard the flight attendants ask them to "please tone it down:, or "clean up their language", or "their are xhildren on this flight".  I've even seen these enibriated girls go as far as trying to get elderly mens attention, and then when they do they would start flashing thier boobs and then laugh and say "don't you wish you can touch these or suck on these", sit with their mini skirts on and have thier legs wide open. I could go on but I will stop with those two incidents.   I've never heard a flight attendant be rude, but who's to say they are not out there.   I'm sure there are plenty, but I have yet to experience it.  But like I said in the beginning I'm not say that these things did not happen to these girls.

 

 I personally dont know when it became acceptable to get on an airline at all while drinking - can we, as a society, not do ANYTHING any more with drinking being involved?  People talk all the time about smoking being bad for the second hand smoke well sorry but drunks invade my space in much the same manner - not healthwise but still, the invasion is there.  I can't go to a concert - which I go to alot for my one guilty pleasure - and I have yet to go to one where some drunk women and men aren't sitting around me knocking people over and just generally making a scene.  Last time was 2 women - not kids mind you - but late 40's - and drunk on their proverbial butts all nite long smacking me in the back while dancing, knocking my hat off (country music star so cowboy hat) and on and on for almost the whole show until I finally turned to one of the husbands or booyfriends, whatever, and told him to put a leash on his woman.  To spend 95 bucks for enjoyment and then get so drunk to not even be able to remember the songs or the show AND to make others miserale in the mean time is just stupid and people on airplanes should not be allowed to drink and fly.

I was kicked off of a Delta flight in Atlanta Georgia when my connecting flight was getting ready to board in early February and the gal in front of me and I were talking on the tarmac - and the other gal made a comment about the plane being a "puddle jumper" and I merely laughed and said something to the effect of yeah dont ya love it ?  And that was IT !  Minutes after I took my seat I was told I had to leave the plane - they said we would "discuss" the reason outside on the tarmac - well a discussion involves two people exchanging ideas - usually anyway - in this case I was told I would not fly and that I was a danger to other passengers with my "attitude" about the small plane - I tried to explain that I hadnt been the one to say it but I got told to "shut the F up" or I wouldnt be allowed on the flight 7 hours later either. As ridiculous as it was the other gal didnt even get talked to about what SHE had said - I was singled out probably because I was the one they could identify since my voice carries more and I was seated in the front of the plane.  So I had to sit in the airport for 7 hours, missed my car rental reservation and hotel reservation also and when I got back to the gate 7 hours later - SEVEN HOURS???  I was met with the same players in the original incident standing around the gate and following my up to my seat - staring at me dead on and not even trying to hide it - while waiting for the flight to be called - almost as if they were just waiting for me to even blink the wrong way or say something to one of them. 

I will NEVER fly with Delta again - oh and not just because of that but because I have a birth defect in my spine that doesnt allow for long periods of standing (more than 10 minutes and I am in pain) - and in spite of having made a wheelchair request at each leg of my flight I never saw one - instead the one time that I actually even saw a wheelchair - several of them actually - they took some other people in them and when I asked why the flight attendant told me that they had claimed them first so I asked what names they had for the passenger and they did have mine but the other people were old and as one flight attendant looked me straight in the face (I am 50 and seemingly healthy looking) and said well funny but you dont LOOK handicapped - just lazy!  Excuse me ?  But a flight attendant - or anyone else for that matter - has xray vision and can see my steel pins in my back from two previous surgeries ?  Yeah well - again - Delta is the worst in customer service. 
 
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March 14, 2008, 4:15 pm PDT

Girls Gone Wild Culture

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I'm not saying that these things did not happen to these girls, but I have traveled numerous times from Las Vegas, NV. and back and have seen, teens and women with hardly anything on fly out of and into Las Vegas, and have not seen them treated any differently.  There have even been Stripperscoming in to work for the weekend or leaving and are barely dressed, and I have never seen an attendant treat them any different.  On the other hand I have seen some barely dressed teens and women, enibriated and making an ass of themselves, and have heard the flight attendants ask them to "please tone it down:, or "clean up their language", or "their are xhildren on this flight".  I've even seen these enibriated girls go as far as trying to get elderly mens attention, and then when they do they would start flashing thier boobs and then laugh and say "don't you wish you can touch these or suck on these", sit with their mini skirts on and have thier legs wide open. I could go on but I will stop with those two incidents.   I've never heard a flight attendant be rude, but who's to say they are not out there.   I'm sure there are plenty, but I have yet to experience it.  But like I said in the beginning I'm not say that these things did not happen to these girls.

 

I believe we are living in a girls gone-wild culture.  From the fallen girlie-celebrities in the tabloids to the girls who post drunken pictures of themselves on their MySpace pages, we are beseiged by scores of young women so hungry for attention it is damaging the culture and making it very difficult to raise our daughters.  I am female and I could not believe I would agree with Mr. Simmons (formerly of the rock group KISS) who was on your show earlier this week about paparazzi laws in California when he said that women are largely to blame for the commercial peddaling of gossip and bad behavior of the kind provided in the tabloid media at supermarket checkouts were most women like to browse.  I believe these young women nursing their public beef with Southwest Airlines are part of a growing band wagon of selfish, spoiled young women longing for their 15 minutesof fame in that every same tabloid media.  Already one of the young women from the SW Airlines dispute got an offer from Playboy to do a spread.  The two other young women on your show today are probably looking for similar offers.  They were not being forthcoming with Dr. Phil at all (I can tell, and I'm not even a psychiatrist).  On a personal note, I remember taking a fight to California from Florida (before 911).  It was a morning flight on which beverages such as tea, coffee, orange juice or sodas would normally be served.  Some young women on the flight sitting a couple of rows behind me were acting rowdy from the moment they boarded.  They became irate when they ordered alcholic beverages and were told they would not be served alcohol.   I believe the young women were already drunk.  Had it been post-911, I believe these young women would have been escorted off the plane the way things are done today.  As it was, the passengers had to put up wth their rudeness until the plane'snext stop.  This bad-girl culture needs to be seen for what it is before more up and coming young women buy into the illusion that it's OK.  It's not OK.   Young women need to be level headed and intelligent to protect themselves.  As the nightly news will tell us often, young women are so vulnerable, they are more likely to be the victims of violence or those who go missing from after-hours bars and nightclubs.  Get real, girls.  15 minutes of fame is not worth all this hassle.
 


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