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March 30, 2008, 5:45 am PDT

04/04 Ask Dr. Phil about Parenting

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I truly have empathy for the parents of some teenagers today.  I have a 16 yr old niece and 17 yr old nephew who are truly out of control.  Their mother is single working trying to support them without monetary support from their so called absent father.  The kids are failing in school and don't care.  They have been suspended from school several times and from riding the bus. The oldest, the 17 almost 18 yr old was expelled and sent to alternate school for trying to  sell his ADHD medication in school several times.  They yell at their teachers, bus drivers, and especially disheartening cuss and yell at their Mother. I suggested to the mother to call the police on the daughter as she runs away on a whim and comes home whenever. She states that this is what the kids want. /they brag about how and who they sleep with, being picked up by the police, etc.  They get disciplined only to  have the mother back down because the kids harass and manipulate her  so bad she lets them slide just to get them out of her hair.  They are of the "ME" generation who only care about themselves, and yet they say their life sucks.  They are unhappy with everything and everybody around them.  They  are lazy, thoughtless, rude, and it's a shame that I can't think of anything positive to say about them. 
We have tried several times and ways to help them come up in this world, but to no avail.  They say everyone are losers, but when in fact I want to tell them to look in the mirror.  I have lost all respect for them, it's sad to say, but how can you help someone who's not willing to help themselves.  I could go on and on about them, but you get the gist of the situation, and their mother says all kids are like that today. I in my own heart don't believe that, does anyone else believe that?

My daughter just turned 18 in March. Things were pretty good until last summer. She fell in love and started to hang around the bad crowd. Her friends have pretty much dropped out of school, doing drugs, partying most of the time. My daughter believes and tries to make me believe that ALL KIDS DO DRUGS AND DRINK. She associates her self with friends which are on their own with no parent supervision. One lives at his grand parents and has no one to report too, and the others ones simply have no rules so of course, I was the mean one...... the one who wouldnt let her live a NORMAL teenagers lifesyle. She lost her virginity in August 2007 and all of a sudden, she was an adult now wanting the sleepover thing with her boyfriend and stuff and I just couldnt allow that.  She started rebelling and kept telling me she was going to move out as soon as she was 18 and I started to panic. She once ran away because I told her she couldnt see her b-friend and had to come home to clean her room. It took her three days to come back and I wanted this to happen where she would decide to come home and would have to follow my rules. Her b-friend broke it off with her but she still hung around with the crowd. Her new boyfriend is 18, living wherever as his mother and step father live up north and he got kicked out. Has no money, no job, and just got arrested for breaking and entering !! This is where I get really confused. My daughter still prtety much talks to me. She tells me things I would of never told my parents and I dont want those lines of communications to stop so I try to remain calm and cool whenever she talks to me. Now that she's 18, she has this attitude that she can do what she wants. She's failing in school and not sure she will graduate. She would need to go to adult school to complete her education. Her bedroom is more then a mess leaving food around, glasses filled with milk or juice..... clothes everywhere.... its quite discusting but doesnt care. Now, she doesnt call me to tell me when she's coming home and thinks she has no curfew though I had told her that even though she was going to be 18, I still have expectations and she would have to continue to respect me. If I push to hard, will she leave and go with her boyfriend and I fear I will regret it. I was hoping she would see this on her own with out my opinion. She did share with me that she was embarest when people ask her what her b-friend does cause he does nothing so a little bell rang and I was hoping she would start to think about whre her life is going. I take the time to talk to her being very carefull with my words. I told her that if her friends had no motivation, no goals, they wouldnt end up very far unless they choose to change their ways. I mentioned  to her that if she surrounded her self with a better crowd, it would better her life and she would eventually realise what really matter in life and how life really works. I am a single mother and I have 3 children. I give them love, support and I have overcome many very difficult challenges and had hoped they would see that life is not as easy as they think it is. I've gone to therapy with my daughter to better our relationship, I've taken her to see a spychiatrist to make sure she doesnt have bi-polar as its in her biologicals fathers family. I offered her the book <closing the gap>, I've offered her spiritual audio c.d books explaining to her that If she starts now, she has a much better chance of having successfull relationships with those in her life. I've compomised on what she's ask to try and reach the middle but in return, I have gotten very little on her behalf and yes, she manipulates me. Shes made up stories at work about her family life so that people feel sorry for her. She's made me look out to be a monster...even though it doesnt matter what other think, I feel sad that she would be able to invent and want to do this to her mother. What does a mother do when she feels her daughter might leave..... I told her that if she wanted to move out, the only thing I wished for was that she would do it properly and I was willing to help her to get a good start.  The last thing I want is for her to leave for the wrong reasons but then again, she's only 18 and thinks she understands what life is all about !!

 

I really thought when she was 17 that I had beaten the odds. That I had succeeded in avoiding the teenage misery but then, I realised that I had made poor choices at 19 years old and now I know, this is the most critical age. This is the begining of their future and the choices they will make will have a strong impact on the adults years. I'm talking about pregnancies, boyfriends, education..... but she doesnt want to hear it. I really didnt think I'd be in this situation today and I thought my way would work. Its frustrating to see that with all my efforts, something failed and I have gone back in my mind to see where I messed up ! Where do I hold responsability and even by doing so, I cant go back ! I know I raised my kids feeling sorry for them when things happened and so I tried to compansate in other ways (unlike our parents). I now know that I was wanting to be a better parent but its obvious now to me that kids also learn through struggles and that life is not always fair.....  I know I lack consistancy and so I am trying to change my ways with my two younger boys. Trial, fail and adjust !!! Isent that how we learn unfortunaltely !!! 

 
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April 1, 2008, 11:04 am PDT

04/04 Ask Dr. Phil about Parenting

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I truly have empathy for the parents of some teenagers today.  I have a 16 yr old niece and 17 yr old nephew who are truly out of control.  Their mother is single working trying to support them without monetary support from their so called absent father.  The kids are failing in school and don't care.  They have been suspended from school several times and from riding the bus. The oldest, the 17 almost 18 yr old was expelled and sent to alternate school for trying to  sell his ADHD medication in school several times.  They yell at their teachers, bus drivers, and especially disheartening cuss and yell at their Mother. I suggested to the mother to call the police on the daughter as she runs away on a whim and comes home whenever. She states that this is what the kids want. /they brag about how and who they sleep with, being picked up by the police, etc.  They get disciplined only to  have the mother back down because the kids harass and manipulate her  so bad she lets them slide just to get them out of her hair.  They are of the "ME" generation who only care about themselves, and yet they say their life sucks.  They are unhappy with everything and everybody around them.  They  are lazy, thoughtless, rude, and it's a shame that I can't think of anything positive to say about them. 
We have tried several times and ways to help them come up in this world, but to no avail.  They say everyone are losers, but when in fact I want to tell them to look in the mirror.  I have lost all respect for them, it's sad to say, but how can you help someone who's not willing to help themselves.  I could go on and on about them, but you get the gist of the situation, and their mother says all kids are like that today. I in my own heart don't believe that, does anyone else believe that?

I am a single parent of 4. One just graduated from High School and one on his way. I have to say this is not the easiest task in the world. But it is most rewarding. Facts are what they are and there is no sence in dwelling in it. I made up my mind straight from the get go that my kids are not going to be worn down emotionally or mentally from their fathers decision. My pain was excrusiating and when I looked at my kids, the poor things I knew I had to get everyone on the same page. This decision was implemented by my family and his family as well...infact if you didn't have anything encouraging (positive)or nice to say about their father or the situation I will tell you personall to not talk to my kids until...Over 4 years has passed and I am not going to say it was a walk in the park, it wasn't. My eldest 2 got into some mischiefs but I was there. Adults can't get angry at children for getting into mischiefs because the processing is different with each little mind. We have to be patient and repeat things 30 thousand times, they will get it. Respecting our kids gos along ways as well....I've done alot of praying and research on my  part so that I can help my kids overcome this great challange in their life. Ofcourse I don't have all the answers but I tell you what, my kids and I sure are content with our lives right now........

 

 


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