Quote From: davewriterThe only logical explanation I can offer to this abombination of a love technique is its creators, Nick and Scott, got so burned in past romances, maybe even marriages, that they created this technique as means over getting revenge, getting back what women stole from them. I don't know what to say about this except this is so pathetic, it's not even funny.
What the hell is up with you two? Do you think women are so spoiled and materialistic, that women treat men as if they're made of money? Let me tell you that while SOME do, that doesn't count for ALL women. Let me guess, you picked up a few golddiggers in your lives, and now you want some of that money back. There are more subtle ways of getting it, like getting jobs. Look at all the men out there who put their profiles on Internet dating sites looking for love, relationships and marriage. Or do you think they're suckers? Whatever, I'll bet they'd be embarrassed at what you're doing, and they'd rather take instructions from cartoon characters on how to pick up and date women. All I know is I haven't gotten into the dating game, and yet I am turned off by what you have to offer. Let me tell you right now, I want no part of it.
I'm just starting work on a novel, and in that novel, my protagonist is a young man who becomes a controversial radio personality. SPOILER: He gets so burned in his marriage (his wife will cheat on him constantly throughout their whole marriage, and even give birth to a baby that he finds out is not his) that when he gets divorced, not only does he swear off women ("The only women I can trust now are those I can't legally marry!") and devote much of his time to the children that ARE his, but he also goes on an anti-female tirade, claiming that all women will treat their husbands and boyfriends the same as he was treated. He would even agree to have "Romeo and Juliet" barred from the high school English curriculum, calling it "a stupid, overrated play." Still, I would have to be crazy to make him come up with something like this. Can't make my plot unrealistic, now can we?
I'm so glad that Ross Jefferies, the Father of Seduction, has seen the err of his ways, and I can't wait to see him rip some new ones to you.
"Women Beware" is right. These are not men who value women, marriage or families (don't know about children, though,) and crap like this is the reason why marriage and families continue to be out of vogue in 2008, after all these years. You should be ashamed of yourselves!
davewriter, there's a story behind this. There's a reason why Jeffries did what he did.
First of all, Jeffries and Mystery (creator of Mystery Method) are enemies. Did you notice how he was defending his own purported method of "seduction" while downplaying the Mystery Method? Jeffries hasn't seen the error of his ways, he was just trying to make Mystery look bad on national television.
The truth is that while some of the men who are in the seduction community are sleazy, there are some who are genuinely trying to give men the social skillsets to attract women. The Pick-Up Artist Juggler, for instance, doesn't focus on getting a girl into bed, but focuses on how to build rapport with her. Most of the men who go into the seduction community are men who just keep getting burned by women. Some of them are good-looking, intelligent, even rich in some cases, but they can't bring women into their lives because their social skillset is poorly developed.
Think of it as this: there's a light and dark side to the art of seduction. Always has been. Any man who knows how to make it with a woman has the power to break her heart or make her feel special. Even the ones who never had to learn how to seduce women can exploit them. Being a PUA just means that you've artifically learned the social skillset to be successful in dating. I'm not talking about Ross Jeffries' bizarre hypnosis, I'm talking about the ability to sit and talk with a woman and simply knowing how to conduct yourself so that she'll be attracted to you.