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April 9, 2008, 2:42 pm PDT

04/11 Women Beware!

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Manipulating a woman because you want to get into her panties is gross.  I think it's just fine to like people who look a certain way, but from what I have read on the description of this show this is about MORE than that. This is about making yourself appear to have a different PERSONALITY and CHARACTER in order to seduce a woman, in order to get her into bed. THAT is gross.

And the last part of your post shows exactly WHY these superficial qualities are SUPERFICIAL. It's just like polishing dog crap...you can look good on the outside EASILY. All it takes is a little buff up. Your personality is harder to shine up. If you lie about the things you LIKE to talk about, if you lie about the way you NORMALLY are as a person for the simple reason of getting into someone panties, that is GROSS.

If you want to change as a person change for yourself, at trite as that sounds, there is wisdom in it. People don't want to have others put on an elaborate character changing, personality changing act just to get their loins lubed.
Wanting sex is not gross.  Men want certain things in a relationship, just as women want certain things.  The only reason that any of us are here right now is because at some point someone wanted sex.  The only reason that men take women out on dates, buy them flowers, etc. is to get them into bed, is that also manipulation, or are these "romatic" gestures encouraged?

For some men their natural inclination is to talk about Rubik's Cubes and Star Trek.  If they find that this does not work well should they accept their fate or should they do something different?

Many people, both men and women, improve themselves to become more attractive to the opposite sex.  There is nothing wrong with that.
 
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April 9, 2008, 3:31 pm PDT

Attraction can NOT be faked

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Manipulating a woman because you want to get into her panties is gross. I think it's just fine to like people who look a certain way, but from what I have read on the description of this show this is about MORE than that. This is about making yourself appear to have a different PERSONALITY and CHARACTER in order to seduce a woman, in order to get her into bed. THAT is gross.

And the last part of your post shows exactly WHY these superficial qualities are SUPERFICIAL. It's just like polishing dog crap...you can look good on the outside EASILY. All it takes is a little buff up. Your personality is harder to shine up. If you lie about the things you LIKE to talk about, if you lie about the way you NORMALLY are as a person for the simple reason of getting into someone panties, that is GROSS.

If you want to change as a person change for yourself, at trite as that sounds, there is wisdom in it. People don't want to have others put on an elaborate character changing, personality changing act just to get their loins lubed.
I know you feel it's manipulation, but I want to remind you what I said. Attraction can NOT be faked. You can NOT take a guy and give him some 'lines' and magically expect him to get a women. It doesn't work like that because the 'self' is always coming through. The guy trying these 'tactics' or 'lines' will mess something up like, maybe he will be to quiet, or have nervous body language, or maybe when the women 'tests' him to see if he actually is the guy he projects to be...he reacts badly to her test and 'fails it'. So for instance maybe the guy starts off with a playful tease and then the women says something mean back to see how he handles social pressure and then the guy adjusts his body and reacts negatively to her words, instead of just ingoring or dealing with her line with a playful way.

But I do see where you are coming from. You think, the guys who learn all this stuff are doing it to manipulate women and get into there pants which is impossible to do. Because like I said already. ATTRACTION CAN NOT BE FAKED. And you know this is true, you're a women and you can tell when someone is bull$%^&*ing you and when someone is being the real deal. thats why I said, you have to develop and internalize these strong characterists as a man, if you want to be more sucessful with women. And no, once again this does NOT mean you are Changing your Core Personality. Anyways, if you still don't agree, then that's cool, I'll live and so will you (:
 


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