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April 14, 2008, 2:15 pm PDT

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Quote From: normanohio

Absolutely.

 

Sonja appears to be a crazy person.

 

She is insensitive, self centered, volatile, and manipulative. 

She thrives on causing drama and turmoil in family.

 

She twists everything around to be a personal insult and accepts no blame for anything she has done. 

 

It is likely Sonja person has a narcissistic personality disorder. 

These people create absolute chaos in their families.  But Doctor Phil has a blind spot in recognizing these people for what they are.  The closest he comes to recognizing them is to call them right fighters    And then misplaces blame to others in the family by stating you deserve each other.   The chaos created by these people is 100% the fault of the person with NPD.   Families will say things in response because they dont understand what they are dealing with and still want to believe they are dealing with a normal person.  For the most part, any improper actions or statements by other family members are a reaction to a difficult situation. But they did not cause this situation. 

 

Using the will as a weapon - This is a tactic I am quite familiar with from a family member with this personality.  This attempt to control people with money is a symptom of the BPD.

 

I doubt that Dr Phil can fix this situation with family counseling. 

 

Allowing Sonja to eavesdrop on the conversation between the sisters was wrong.  It was a betrayal of trust to the daughter.   Under normal conditions, it would be illegal.  For a person with NPD (Sonja)  it will produce no understanding and only provide more issues and statements to use against the out-of-favor family member. 

 

I think your comments are right on.  I was very disappointed at Dr. Phil's attack on Lisa.  It was obvious that Sonja was mentally disturbed.  She had no emotion for her family's pain but seemed to smile when she noticed how her actions negatively impacted Lisa.  I really think Dr. Phil owes Lisa an apology.  The fact that her granddaugher and daughters spoke of better times and the fact that her family actually loves Sonja should not be misread.  Narcisstic people can be very enjoyable, charming and can do many of the "right" things as a parent, but when they can't be in control or feel dismissed--look out.   My mother is a milder and gentler type of Sonja.  She and I enjoy wonderful conversations and much laughter but she can turn on a dime.  I live over 300 miles away and go home once a year and have my Mom at my home once a year.  I talk with her everyday and enjoy most of the conversations.  We usually have a good time but I tread carefully.  In all fairness, I think as my mother grows older and grows close to God, I can see her trying to be a better person and I commend her for this.  It was difficult growing up with her though and my heart goes out to Lisa.

 
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April 15, 2008, 9:37 am PDT

04/14 The Dr. Phil House: House of Greed

Quote From: normanohio

Absolutely.

 

Sonja appears to be a crazy person.

 

She is insensitive, self centered, volatile, and manipulative. 

She thrives on causing drama and turmoil in family.

 

She twists everything around to be a personal insult and accepts no blame for anything she has done. 

 

It is likely Sonja person has a narcissistic personality disorder. 

These people create absolute chaos in their families.  But Doctor Phil has a blind spot in recognizing these people for what they are.  The closest he comes to recognizing them is to call them right fighters    And then misplaces blame to others in the family by stating you deserve each other.   The chaos created by these people is 100% the fault of the person with NPD.   Families will say things in response because they dont understand what they are dealing with and still want to believe they are dealing with a normal person.  For the most part, any improper actions or statements by other family members are a reaction to a difficult situation. But they did not cause this situation. 

 

Using the will as a weapon - This is a tactic I am quite familiar with from a family member with this personality.  This attempt to control people with money is a symptom of the BPD.

 

I doubt that Dr Phil can fix this situation with family counseling. 

 

Allowing Sonja to eavesdrop on the conversation between the sisters was wrong.  It was a betrayal of trust to the daughter.   Under normal conditions, it would be illegal.  For a person with NPD (Sonja)  it will produce no understanding and only provide more issues and statements to use against the out-of-favor family member. 

 

  I don't think Dr. Phil has a blind spot. I think  he is just very careful not to label someone for legal reasons.  He is there to bring peace to a family not to diagnose someones psychosis.

I do think Sonja has issues but it does take two to make a fight.  Sonja didn't get this way over night. Her daughter knew what she was getting herself into when she purchased this property with her mother. She had her own motives for getting into this situation and if she wanted to avoid the control issues that her mother is exhibiting than she should have steered clear of getting into a business deal with her. Perhaps it was done through Sonja's manipulation. I don't know. But in my experience when it comes to avoiding a controlling person from taking over your life you don't agree to share property and live so close together. Lisa should have known better.

I think if Lisa wants a relationship with her sister she needs to sit back and let Sara realize for herself through this experience that her mother is the root of her sisters distance. A loving mother doesn't pin her daughters against one another for her own selfish reasons. I am really curious to see how Dr. Phil can work this one out.

  

  

 


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