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April 15, 2008, 8:34 pm PDT

It was only pot?

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This is the problem.  People do not believe that marijuana is bad.  People believe that marijuana does not affect you.  People believe that marijuana is safe.  IT IS NOT.  I watched my son decline from being one of the smartest people I have ever met to not being able to pass.  I watched him go from such a loving human being to a violent one.  Never to me but holes in walls, broken things, threats, etc....  I would have never dreamed that he would have cussed at me like he did.  I watched as marijuana made him into a human being that I had never met before nor would I have wanted to know. 

Of course when he was high, he was fine and relaxed and happy.  OF COURSE.  It was when he would be off of it and wanting it.  It made him (and others I know) turn in to moody, hateful, untrustworthy people.  And it is ILLEGAL.  Maybe it has not affected you or people you know.  But to some it affects greatly.  And the myth that it is better than alcohol or any other drugs or does not affect people as bad is ENTIRELY WRONG.  I KNOW.  I am Dawn.  Brad's mom. 

Please do not let the possiblity that Marijuana is horrible pass you by.  Be open minded.  Listen carefully and be careful.

Seriously, ONLY pot made your son violent and evil? Well, if that's what happened to your son, then that sucks.

I don't think that it changes my mind about pot at all, though.

I still believe that marijuana is less dangerous than alcohol and other drugs. I mean, I'm not saying that it's great for you at all. It does get smoke into your lungs and make you a little more forgetful. But I know people who smoke pot only, and then I know people who do other drugs and drink. The people who only smoke pot are usually noththing like you describe your son being, whether they are on or off the stuff. In fact, most of the time, I can't even tell if they are high or not! The people who do other drugs or drink turn violent and crazy, sometimes, though.

What you described in your sons behavior is new to me. He must have had an fairly bad psychological addiction. But I, personaly, have never known ANYONE to need it soooo bad when they're off it, that they turn violent. Maybe a little moody, but that's it. And most of the time, (again) I don't even know if they have had it or not.

I'm sorry about your son, but nothing your son went through will make me think differently people who ARE good, honest, friendly people that you would NEVER suspect have some pot occasionally. Why should I dislike it if they smoke pot if it doesn't make them moddy or violent or hateful? (besides it being illegal but I don't agree with drug laws anyway) If your son got that way only from pot, then yeah, he should avoid it. But that doesn't mean that everyone will be affected that way.

I am open minded. I have heard pros AND lots of cons for marijuana. But, in the end, I go by my personal experiences, not anyone elses.

Again, I wish we could all just get high on life and not have to have this debate. But if I'm not going to tell someone whether or not they can put alcohol in them and ruin their liver, then I won't tell them if they can smoke weed (for adults, only btw.)

 

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April 16, 2008, 1:05 pm PDT

Wrong wrong wrong

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This is the problem.  People do not believe that marijuana is bad.  People believe that marijuana does not affect you.  People believe that marijuana is safe.  IT IS NOT.  I watched my son decline from being one of the smartest people I have ever met to not being able to pass.  I watched him go from such a loving human being to a violent one.  Never to me but holes in walls, broken things, threats, etc....  I would have never dreamed that he would have cussed at me like he did.  I watched as marijuana made him into a human being that I had never met before nor would I have wanted to know. 

Of course when he was high, he was fine and relaxed and happy.  OF COURSE.  It was when he would be off of it and wanting it.  It made him (and others I know) turn in to moody, hateful, untrustworthy people.  And it is ILLEGAL.  Maybe it has not affected you or people you know.  But to some it affects greatly.  And the myth that it is better than alcohol or any other drugs or does not affect people as bad is ENTIRELY WRONG.  I KNOW.  I am Dawn.  Brad's mom. 

Please do not let the possiblity that Marijuana is horrible pass you by.  Be open minded.  Listen carefully and be careful.

I respectfully have to disagree with every point you made about marijuana.  I watched the show with intense interest.  This debate about whether marijuana made your son rage is ridiculous.  The debate about whether marijuana is dangerous is laughable.

 

We were all teenagers once (or are) and we made (or make) choices that lead us into adulthood.  I have smoked pot everyday for over 15 years and I am only 28.  I chose pot over all else.  I never did cocaine or anything else.  Now I watch as half of the people, mothers and fathers, friends and coworkers in my peer group get addicted, or are addicted to prescription drugs and end up worse off than ever.  The other half is addicted to alcohol.  They all justify it by saying it is legal.  Most of those people have driven drunk or have passed out on vicodins somewhere other than home and think they are ok because it is ok in society today to take lots of prescription drugs and drink alcohol heavily.  I graduated high school and I have gone to work everyday since I was legally able, I pay taxes, and I am back in school again now to further my education, not to make more money,  but to expand my knowledge to make the world a better place. 

 

Scare stories like these are exactly what the alcohol industry and the pharmaceutical companies want.  Marijuana is classified as a Schedule 1 drug, meaning it is classified as a drug that is worse than herion and as bad as crystal meth. 

 

My face has never melted off,  I have never hurt anyone,  I have never made a late mortgage payment because I needed the drug. (that's right I own my own home and car for that matter) I am a responsible adult who chooses to use a plant that grows naturally on the earth.  Not a manmade less effective,  more dangerous alternative like Xanex or Paxil. One day I hope the light is really shone on what marijuana is capable of concerning health and wellbeing. 

 

I am so sorry to hear about your relationship with your son being as terrible as it was and I hope it gets better, whether the problem was the pot or not.  But I do not believe, nor will I ever believe that Marijuana contributed to his rage.  Teenage boys are angry if they are locked up all the time for suspecting they might do something.  Your son seems to be an intellient youngman.  I hope it all works out for you all.

 

 
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April 16, 2008, 3:18 pm PDT

one is not the same as all

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This is the problem.  People do not believe that marijuana is bad.  People believe that marijuana does not affect you.  People believe that marijuana is safe.  IT IS NOT.  I watched my son decline from being one of the smartest people I have ever met to not being able to pass.  I watched him go from such a loving human being to a violent one.  Never to me but holes in walls, broken things, threats, etc....  I would have never dreamed that he would have cussed at me like he did.  I watched as marijuana made him into a human being that I had never met before nor would I have wanted to know. 

Of course when he was high, he was fine and relaxed and happy.  OF COURSE.  It was when he would be off of it and wanting it.  It made him (and others I know) turn in to moody, hateful, untrustworthy people.  And it is ILLEGAL.  Maybe it has not affected you or people you know.  But to some it affects greatly.  And the myth that it is better than alcohol or any other drugs or does not affect people as bad is ENTIRELY WRONG.  I KNOW.  I am Dawn.  Brad's mom. 

Please do not let the possiblity that Marijuana is horrible pass you by.  Be open minded.  Listen carefully and be careful.

I feel for you and your situation - it appears that your family situation has improved and for that I'm happy. However I think that it would be inaccurate to say that your story in any way portrays what most people experience with respect to marijuana usage.

Your son made a good point about your husband's alcohol use - a point that Dr. Phil unfortunately didn't discuss. Why should we believe that your son's marijuana use is more significant than your husband's alcohol use? Why should we discount your husband's temper as a potential source of Brad's temper? Why is a 17-year old drinking or smoking marijuana? These are both intended for adult use only.

The counseling that your son received sounds like it was very beneficial and will hopefully help you and your family communicate in a healthy manner. If Dr. Phil was able to make that happen for you then it sounds like the show was a great idea for you.

That doesn't mean that your situation in any way indicates that marijuana was the source of the problem.
 

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April 16, 2008, 10:28 pm PDT

04/16 Drug Troubles

Quote From: dmess123

This is the problem.  People do not believe that marijuana is bad.  People believe that marijuana does not affect you.  People believe that marijuana is safe.  IT IS NOT.  I watched my son decline from being one of the smartest people I have ever met to not being able to pass.  I watched him go from such a loving human being to a violent one.  Never to me but holes in walls, broken things, threats, etc....  I would have never dreamed that he would have cussed at me like he did.  I watched as marijuana made him into a human being that I had never met before nor would I have wanted to know. 

Of course when he was high, he was fine and relaxed and happy.  OF COURSE.  It was when he would be off of it and wanting it.  It made him (and others I know) turn in to moody, hateful, untrustworthy people.  And it is ILLEGAL.  Maybe it has not affected you or people you know.  But to some it affects greatly.  And the myth that it is better than alcohol or any other drugs or does not affect people as bad is ENTIRELY WRONG.  I KNOW.  I am Dawn.  Brad's mom. 

Please do not let the possiblity that Marijuana is horrible pass you by.  Be open minded.  Listen carefully and be careful.

 Dear Dawn,
 I thought you could appreciate hearing from someone who wholeheartedly understands and agrees with what you have experienced with your son.  I am going through it right now with my daughter.  All through college I knew people who smoked pot and I even knew that some of my oldest daughter's friend's were smokers.  What I never knew was how drastically it could alter my child's personality.  I began to see my daughter disappear.  There was an ugliness that kept coming from her that was not there before, but I never suspected that she would have been doing any kind of drug.  I so believed in her and I knew her as this beautiful person.  All of our community knew her that way.  She was respected and admired.  This ugly side of her I now realize appeared any time she had not had her drugs for awhile.  All was discovered when God took a hand in her life and she was in a car collision.  Slowly the truth began to be revealed to me.  In hindsight I feel so stupid that I did not suspect anything before.  It wasn't until she visited with her aunt (my sister) and I received a call from my sister expressing her concern and that I do some digging...  Slowly the truth came out and when I began researching the effects of marijuana on the internet all the pieces began to fall into place.  I am crushed, but thankful that it has been caught early, and seeing your story on Dr. Phil gives me hope that my daughter too can turn this around.  thank you for sharing your story.
 


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