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April 18, 2008, 4:29 pm PDT

I just hope Sarah is Safe

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I was wondering if DrP would weigh in on this. I wonder if the mothers will talk to him. You know, I know this has to be hard on the women and children being separated. But, as far as I have seen on the news CPS followed the rules. It's on such a large scale. The kids probably don't understand what's going on at all. It IS horrible to know that those youngs girls are being raised to think that it's o.k. to be married to those older men at such a tender age. The women are all so soft spoken, it is kind of eerie like they've been programmed to speak that way. (And I'm sure they have been programmed to be the way they are )It's all really sad isn't it? And really, after the first wife, are they REALLY legally married? I doubt that they would want anyone's sympathy but I truly feel sorry for these sad, brainwashed women and thier children. It is reported that these women learn to be submissive to thier husbands. That they don't cut thier hair and that they wash thier husband's feet with thier hair. That they don't believe in crying and laughing. That the only way they can get into Heaven is to be submissive and follow thier husband's commands. I wonder where God fits into this picture? It seems to be all about the men being in complete, total power. Yet, the men don't choose thier wives, the leader chooses them from a book with a list of the females' names called the Joy Book. Isn't this just a sad mess?

I fear greatly as to the fate of the courageous young woman known as "Sarah" who called for help and brought an end to what amounts to a "Rape Ranch" in my opinion. As far as I'm concerned calling that place a "Rape Ranch" is more than apt - those men were raping girls as young as 13 - and it's incredibly offensive that the media keeps saying they were "married" to these men - married my foot - you CANNOT marry a thirteen year old child!

I hope they find Sarah safe and sound - but I have a terrible feeling in my gut.
 
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April 18, 2008, 5:51 pm PDT

soft spoken,,,,

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I was wondering if DrP would weigh in on this. I wonder if the mothers will talk to him. You know, I know this has to be hard on the women and children being separated. But, as far as I have seen on the news CPS followed the rules. It's on such a large scale. The kids probably don't understand what's going on at all. It IS horrible to know that those youngs girls are being raised to think that it's o.k. to be married to those older men at such a tender age. The women are all so soft spoken, it is kind of eerie like they've been programmed to speak that way. (And I'm sure they have been programmed to be the way they are )It's all really sad isn't it? And really, after the first wife, are they REALLY legally married? I doubt that they would want anyone's sympathy but I truly feel sorry for these sad, brainwashed women and thier children. It is reported that these women learn to be submissive to thier husbands. That they don't cut thier hair and that they wash thier husband's feet with thier hair. That they don't believe in crying and laughing. That the only way they can get into Heaven is to be submissive and follow thier husband's commands. I wonder where God fits into this picture? It seems to be all about the men being in complete, total power. Yet, the men don't choose thier wives, the leader chooses them from a book with a list of the females' names called the Joy Book. Isn't this just a sad mess?

 

I saw some of the women on one of those morning shows.  They were being asked questions by Meredith Viera and they either didn't understand the questions or they were "programmed" as you said to dodge them.  And they were SO soft spoken that you could barely make out what they said (I had to use the closed captions).  When asked about the 13 year old child brides, they started talking about "loving" their kids....yuck, why not just admit that they marry these tweens to gross older men who are already married?  I'm surprised to see a strict sect of LDS (?) in Texas, but if they're way out in Hell's half-acre, who knows what they can get away with. 

 

In Texas, the you can't legally marry a child under the age of 16, so there maybe some legal issues there with that and the culture of underage sex.  Also, polygamy in Texas is illegal, although many polygamist followers don't get marriage licenses, so there's not a legal paper trail.  Their "religion" isn't being brought  to trial, but their illegal practices derived from their beliefs. 

 

I know that the FLDS also has compounds in Arizona and Utah, and that the government also went after them for child abuse, tax fraud,etc. 

 
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April 19, 2008, 5:19 pm PDT

04/22 Secrets inside the Compound

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I was wondering if DrP would weigh in on this. I wonder if the mothers will talk to him. You know, I know this has to be hard on the women and children being separated. But, as far as I have seen on the news CPS followed the rules. It's on such a large scale. The kids probably don't understand what's going on at all. It IS horrible to know that those youngs girls are being raised to think that it's o.k. to be married to those older men at such a tender age. The women are all so soft spoken, it is kind of eerie like they've been programmed to speak that way. (And I'm sure they have been programmed to be the way they are )It's all really sad isn't it? And really, after the first wife, are they REALLY legally married? I doubt that they would want anyone's sympathy but I truly feel sorry for these sad, brainwashed women and thier children. It is reported that these women learn to be submissive to thier husbands. That they don't cut thier hair and that they wash thier husband's feet with thier hair. That they don't believe in crying and laughing. That the only way they can get into Heaven is to be submissive and follow thier husband's commands. I wonder where God fits into this picture? It seems to be all about the men being in complete, total power. Yet, the men don't choose thier wives, the leader chooses them from a book with a list of the females' names called the Joy Book. Isn't this just a sad mess?

I hope the kids are put in foster homes with lots of animals/pets in them.
 
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April 20, 2008, 9:01 pm PDT

These poor children

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I was wondering if DrP would weigh in on this. I wonder if the mothers will talk to him. You know, I know this has to be hard on the women and children being separated. But, as far as I have seen on the news CPS followed the rules. It's on such a large scale. The kids probably don't understand what's going on at all. It IS horrible to know that those youngs girls are being raised to think that it's o.k. to be married to those older men at such a tender age. The women are all so soft spoken, it is kind of eerie like they've been programmed to speak that way. (And I'm sure they have been programmed to be the way they are )It's all really sad isn't it? And really, after the first wife, are they REALLY legally married? I doubt that they would want anyone's sympathy but I truly feel sorry for these sad, brainwashed women and thier children. It is reported that these women learn to be submissive to thier husbands. That they don't cut thier hair and that they wash thier husband's feet with thier hair. That they don't believe in crying and laughing. That the only way they can get into Heaven is to be submissive and follow thier husband's commands. I wonder where God fits into this picture? It seems to be all about the men being in complete, total power. Yet, the men don't choose thier wives, the leader chooses them from a book with a list of the females' names called the Joy Book. Isn't this just a sad mess?
How sad that most of these children don't even know what is going on.  They just are KIDS, afterall.  they want to run, play and have fun like most children but I'm wondering if they actually DO.  In modern-day technology, with all of our knowledge that we have, stupidity stills reins.  How can these women not see what is going on?  How did all this start?  If it's been going on for years, doesn't that make them ALL ,...I don't know; alike, relatively speaking? And that may not be the exact word, but I did notice the women looked alike, in a mongolism-way.  Not to be disrespectful, but there seemed to be "SOMETHING" about them, more in a "Stepford-Wives-type" way.
 
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April 22, 2008, 1:35 pm PDT

secret inside the compound

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I was wondering if DrP would weigh in on this. I wonder if the mothers will talk to him. You know, I know this has to be hard on the women and children being separated. But, as far as I have seen on the news CPS followed the rules. It's on such a large scale. The kids probably don't understand what's going on at all. It IS horrible to know that those youngs girls are being raised to think that it's o.k. to be married to those older men at such a tender age. The women are all so soft spoken, it is kind of eerie like they've been programmed to speak that way. (And I'm sure they have been programmed to be the way they are )It's all really sad isn't it? And really, after the first wife, are they REALLY legally married? I doubt that they would want anyone's sympathy but I truly feel sorry for these sad, brainwashed women and thier children. It is reported that these women learn to be submissive to thier husbands. That they don't cut thier hair and that they wash thier husband's feet with thier hair. That they don't believe in crying and laughing. That the only way they can get into Heaven is to be submissive and follow thier husband's commands. I wonder where God fits into this picture? It seems to be all about the men being in complete, total power. Yet, the men don't choose thier wives, the leader chooses them from a book with a list of the females' names called the Joy Book. Isn't this just a sad mess?
i toally agree with what was said ,i think this home school thing needs to stop ,just to help keep up with what  helpless children have to suffer.we need eyes everywhere, i am also sick of GODS name being used to condone so many acts of selfserving evil. bless those poor children,the adults know better...
 
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April 22, 2008, 2:36 pm PDT

DO WE ACTUALLY KNOW THE TRUTH?

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I was wondering if DrP would weigh in on this. I wonder if the mothers will talk to him. You know, I know this has to be hard on the women and children being separated. But, as far as I have seen on the news CPS followed the rules. It's on such a large scale. The kids probably don't understand what's going on at all. It IS horrible to know that those youngs girls are being raised to think that it's o.k. to be married to those older men at such a tender age. The women are all so soft spoken, it is kind of eerie like they've been programmed to speak that way. (And I'm sure they have been programmed to be the way they are )It's all really sad isn't it? And really, after the first wife, are they REALLY legally married? I doubt that they would want anyone's sympathy but I truly feel sorry for these sad, brainwashed women and thier children. It is reported that these women learn to be submissive to thier husbands. That they don't cut thier hair and that they wash thier husband's feet with thier hair. That they don't believe in crying and laughing. That the only way they can get into Heaven is to be submissive and follow thier husband's commands. I wonder where God fits into this picture? It seems to be all about the men being in complete, total power. Yet, the men don't choose thier wives, the leader chooses them from a book with a list of the females' names called the Joy Book. Isn't this just a sad mess?

FROM EXPERIENCE I HAVE KNOWN ONES WHO COME OUT OF A RELIGION AND THEY HAVE NOTHING GOOD TO SAY ABOUT IT. DO WE REALLY KNOW THAT THESE YOUNG WOMEN   ON DR PHIL ARE TELLING THE ACTUAL TRUTH OR ARE THEY EMBELLISHING A BIT?  I DON'T MEAN TO MINIMIZE THEIR ABUSE OR ANYTHING BUT AS I BROUGHT OUT SOME THINGS MAY NOT BE AS TOLD AND WE ARE ALL SO EAGER TO BELIEVE EVERYTHING WE HEAR IN THE MEDIA AND ON TELEVISION AND ESPECIALLY IF IT IS DESPICABLE!!  TRULY THEY HAVE BEEN BRAINWASHED AND ARE VICTMS AND NEED HELP BUT DO YOU REALLY THINK IT IS A GOOD THING TO TRAMATIZE THE CHILDREN MORE BY RIPPING THEM AWAY FROM THEIR MOTHERS THEY WAY CPS DID? BESIDES, THERE IS CHILD ABUSE GOING ON IN HOMES THAT THE CPS ISN'T DOING ANYTHING ABOUT PROBABLY RIGHT IN THEIR OWN FAMILIES TOO AND AS IT HAS BEEN COMING OUT IN THE MEDIA MORE AND MORE, SEXUAL ABUSE HAS BEEN HAPPENING IN FOSTER HOMES TOO! SO WHERE ARE CHILDREN SAFE? THIS WORLD IS SICK!!!  IT'S NOT JUST THESE PEOPLE AND DON'T GET ME WRONG, I AM NOT UPHOLDING WHAT THESE DIRTY OLD MEN ARE DOING TO THOSE YOUNG GIRLS AND IN THE NAME OF GOD TOO!! 

 

 MY QUESTION IS , WILL THE CPS HOLD THE MOTHERS ACCOUNTABLE AND SAY THAT THEY ARE "     "GUILTY  BY  DENIAL OF CRITICAL CARE ? "    ANY CPS WORKER CARE TO RESPOND?

 
 
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April 22, 2008, 5:24 pm PDT

04/22 Secrets inside the Compound

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I was wondering if DrP would weigh in on this. I wonder if the mothers will talk to him. You know, I know this has to be hard on the women and children being separated. But, as far as I have seen on the news CPS followed the rules. It's on such a large scale. The kids probably don't understand what's going on at all. It IS horrible to know that those youngs girls are being raised to think that it's o.k. to be married to those older men at such a tender age. The women are all so soft spoken, it is kind of eerie like they've been programmed to speak that way. (And I'm sure they have been programmed to be the way they are )It's all really sad isn't it? And really, after the first wife, are they REALLY legally married? I doubt that they would want anyone's sympathy but I truly feel sorry for these sad, brainwashed women and thier children. It is reported that these women learn to be submissive to thier husbands. That they don't cut thier hair and that they wash thier husband's feet with thier hair. That they don't believe in crying and laughing. That the only way they can get into Heaven is to be submissive and follow thier husband's commands. I wonder where God fits into this picture? It seems to be all about the men being in complete, total power. Yet, the men don't choose thier wives, the leader chooses them from a book with a list of the females' names called the Joy Book. Isn't this just a sad mess?
YOU KNOW WHAT?  ULTIMATELY IT DOESN'T MATTER.  THESE PEOPLE WERE ALL RAISED IN THIS ABUSE.  IT IS A LEARNED RESPONSE FOR ALL OF THEM, BOYS & GIRLS ALIKE.  IT IS UP TO ALL CHRISTIANS TO HELP THE CHILDREN
 
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