Quote From: uk_macman1 i dont care one bit wether you found those words hard...
go to http://groups.msn.com/Adoptese and educate yourself...Adoption is barbaric...
you say a child has a chance of having NORMAL LIFE...how can it be normal when all around him/her isnt his or hers blood...the people around him dont look the same, act the same or have the broken heart that the adopted child carries for life...and thats normal to you...thats sick...
You talk again like a child is a possesion or a toy, your words, a sence ogf belonging doesnt have to have the same DNA... how Ignorant can you be here, Didnt you read my post, it states in quite plain lingo an adopted childs life is manifested and a lie, the child NEVER realy feels he belongs to you, you may shower that child in gifts but thats buying there love , you say you can love that child but what about the REAL MOTHER doesnt she deserve the chance to LOVE HER OWN CHILD...But instead people like you STEAL that chance because of you own insecuritys because you cant have your own child, instead you want to STEAL a child away from its NATURAL mother,
You ask, how can i be so cold hearted to say that infertility is no excuse to adopted, then i ask you back, where in the bible does it say, or where is it written that you can STEAL,TAKE OR BUY another persons child and DISCARD the feelings of there rightful MOTHER...
Its not exactly rocket science is it...
yes i have kids and im dissabled as well and ill tell you straight, if anyone came to me before my wife gave birth and said "we are taking your child for a better life" or if any prospective adoptive parent approached me for my children, trust me, i would blow there damn heads off, there my kids and not a possession that can be past from pillar to post just so you get some kind of happiness at being a parent, yoyr happiness cost thousands of unhappy children...
Yes im cold hearted but thats what adoption does, it screws your mind, life and well being and i guess youll answe will be im angry and bitter, TO EFFIN RIGHT IM ANGRY...and like you i have every right to be angry and voice my very real opinion on adoption...after all you try being seperated from your blood for 45 years and then tell me how it feels...You adoptive parents just dont have a clue...
go to www.bastardnation.com
www.originsusa.org
www.originscanada.org
www.adoptionhealing.com
www.adoptioninsights.com
Educate yourself, read the truth and then comment because non of you hear understand the truth...
2. You and Jesus really don't have all that much in common.
Have you been told that you were at the center of some God initiated conspiracy to be placed with your adoptive parents? That maybe your a-folks couldn't have children of their own for a reason? That another woman found herself in a difficult situation just so you could be adopted? That folks at social services or an agency fulfilled the role of angels his scenario? You are not alone, this is a common piece of adoption mythology. It also makes about as much sense as them telling you they found you under a cabbage leaf.
There were real and distinctly ungodly forces working in order to get you adopted. These included agencies, advertising, and the state court system. None of these are directly overseen by any supreme being.
Your parents may have prayed for a child, but only if you subscribe to the adage that God helps those that help themselves, can you even begin to connect the adoption process with anything like the divine. There is some precedent in Christian tradition for children being granted for reasons of God's choosing, but these almost always involve incest, immaculate conception, or old ladies producing children to be savior's playmates. So unless you, or your bestest buddy, are doing the twist on the surface of the swimming pool, I think we can count that out.
Even if the agency involved with your adoption was connected with a church, it was by no means a case of the hand of God working to bring you to your destination. It's just too problematic to work out which God inspired agency had the right bead on God's true work. The big two in adoption, the Catholics and the Later Day Saints, can't even agree on what their main man Jesus was up to for several years, I doubt they would agree that any child that would come into the other's possession had much potential for eternal blessing.
The very thought that God would go to such round about means as adoption requires to bring your parents a child is just silly. Think about it, as nice people as your a-parents might be, what have they done to justify these lengths? Just wanting a child really doesn't fly with God. Those on record that have been divinely granted children have gone through a whole hell of a lot either previous to receiving their miracles, or very soon thereafter. Driving you to soccer practice, allowing you to take up the trombone in the fifth grade, or even surviving your teenage rebellion, just doesn't rate.
On the same note what about you? If you are truly a gift from God, what have you done? Divine status has it's responsibilities and expectations. Unless you are the new Messiah or part of his crew, that pretty much leaves you out. If you think you might be the new Messiah, at this point I should probably suggest you do a bit more serious reading than this, on psychological issues. If you do not at this point have any ascribed miracles, bilocations, or feel the need to lead a political and social movement redefining an established religion, I feel that we can move on.