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October 13, 2005, 2:57 pm PDT

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Jayleigh - you are completely clueless - Rapists and First degree murders get less time than she has served (which is currently less than 4 years).  Turn off the TV and read the news.  Those convicted of first degree murder get at best 25 to life.  And btw, anyone can scream abuse AFTER THE FACT!!  That is the most common plea of women and while it unfortunately happens often, it is also used quite often as an excuse.  I believe that she now thinks she is innocent, she has convinced herself of that and I believe that she was young and ignorant enough (and her parents were obviously ignorant too) to not engage more with her attorney to know what was going on.  BUT once she signed the documents and accepted the plea she has ADMITTED to voluntary manslaughter.  SHE ADMITTED TO IT!!!  Whether she did it because she and her parents were too ignorant to make a better decision or because wanted to get 4 months for taking a human life, she signed the papers and admitted to manslaughter.  To turn around and say that she is innocent is offensive.  There are people in prison who are innocent (albeit not many) but they opted to go to trial.  If she was innocent she SHOULD HAVE GO TO TRIAL AND LET THE JURY DECIDE!!  If they found her guilty but she never conceded she was then she might have a reasonable argument, at the very least as long as she didn't ever admit it she has a right to continue to claim her innocence.    Poor little girl behind bars.  It sucks that her family only gets to see her once/week.  If she were in the grave they could visit her gravesite every day if they wanted to.  And her brother using this as an excuse to commit crimes and the family using it as an excuse for Brandi's brother's behavior is SICK and PATHETIC!!
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October 13, 2005, 2:58 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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Jayleigh - you are completely clueless - Rapists and First degree murders get less time than she has served (which is currently less than 4 years).  Turn off the TV and read the news.  Those convicted of first degree murder get at best 25 to life.  And btw, anyone can scream abuse AFTER THE FACT!!  That is the most common plea of women and while it unfortunately happens often, it is also used quite often as an excuse.  I believe that she now thinks she is innocent, she has convinced herself of that and I believe that she was young and ignorant enough (and her parents were obviously ignorant too) to not engage more with her attorney to know what was going on.  BUT once she signed the documents and accepted the plea she has ADMITTED to voluntary manslaughter.  SHE ADMITTED TO IT!!!  Whether she did it because she and her parents were too ignorant to make a better decision or because wanted to get 4 months for taking a human life, she signed the papers and admitted to manslaughter.  To turn around and say that she is innocent is offensive.  There are people in prison who are innocent (albeit not many) but they opted to go to trial.  If she was innocent she SHOULD HAVE GO TO TRIAL AND LET THE JURY DECIDE!!  If they found her guilty but she never conceded she was then she might have a reasonable argument, at the very least as long as she didn't ever admit it she has a right to continue to claim her innocence.    Poor little girl behind bars.  It sucks that her family only gets to see her once/week.  If she were in the grave they could visit her gravesite every day if they wanted to.  And her brother using this as an excuse to commit crimes and the family using it as an excuse for Brandi's brother's behavior is SICK and PATHETIC!!
 I agree, If she was so scarred by his abuse why o why would she KEEP GOING OVER THERE? b/c she's scared? no, I don't think she's the weak, abused girl her parents are trying to promote.
 
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October 13, 2005, 3:06 pm PDT

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Jayleigh - you are completely clueless - Rapists and First degree murders get less time than she has served (which is currently less than 4 years). Turn off the TV and read the news. Those convicted of first degree murder get at best 25 to life. And btw, anyone can scream abuse AFTER THE FACT!! That is the most common plea of women and while it unfortunately happens often, it is also used quite often as an excuse. I believe that she now thinks she is innocent, she has convinced herself of that and I believe that she was young and ignorant enough (and her parents were obviously ignorant too) to not engage more with her attorney to know what was going on. BUT once she signed the documents and accepted the plea she has ADMITTED to voluntary manslaughter. SHE ADMITTED TO IT!!! Whether she did it because she and her parents were too ignorant to make a better decision or because wanted to get 4 months for taking a human life, she signed the papers and admitted to manslaughter. To turn around and say that she is innocent is offensive. There are people in prison who are innocent (albeit not many) but they opted to go to trial. If she was innocent she SHOULD HAVE GO TO TRIAL AND LET THE JURY DECIDE!! If they found her guilty but she never conceded she was then she might have a reasonable argument, at the very least as long as she didn't ever admit it she has a right to continue to claim her innocence. Poor little girl behind bars. It sucks that her family only gets to see her once/week. If she were in the grave they could visit her gravesite every day if they wanted to. And her brother using this as an excuse to commit crimes and the family using it as an excuse for Brandi's brother's behavior is SICK and PATHETIC!!

You can get drunk and kill someone and not spend this much time if you are a grown adult with 5 prior DWI's, not that is purposeful.......let's not even talk about child  molesters etc.   

She lied, she was 17, of course she lied.  She was scared and that is what many kids would do if  they'd  snuck out, taken their parents car, and damaged the car.....that right there is enough to make her lie without injuring somebody.  I do not believe for one minute that Brandi  purposely meant to hit, hurt or kill Daniel.  I do not believe that her family made up the accusations about his family having to be escorted from the  high school etc. 

 
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October 13, 2005, 3:10 pm PDT

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Jayleigh - you are completely clueless - Rapists and First degree murders get less time than she has served (which is currently less than 4 years).  Turn off the TV and read the news.  Those convicted of first degree murder get at best 25 to life.  And btw, anyone can scream abuse AFTER THE FACT!!  That is the most common plea of women and while it unfortunately happens often, it is also used quite often as an excuse.  I believe that she now thinks she is innocent, she has convinced herself of that and I believe that she was young and ignorant enough (and her parents were obviously ignorant too) to not engage more with her attorney to know what was going on.  BUT once she signed the documents and accepted the plea she has ADMITTED to voluntary manslaughter.  SHE ADMITTED TO IT!!!  Whether she did it because she and her parents were too ignorant to make a better decision or because wanted to get 4 months for taking a human life, she signed the papers and admitted to manslaughter.  To turn around and say that she is innocent is offensive.  There are people in prison who are innocent (albeit not many) but they opted to go to trial.  If she was innocent she SHOULD HAVE GO TO TRIAL AND LET THE JURY DECIDE!!  If they found her guilty but she never conceded she was then she might have a reasonable argument, at the very least as long as she didn't ever admit it she has a right to continue to claim her innocence.    Poor little girl behind bars.  It sucks that her family only gets to see her once/week.  If she were in the grave they could visit her gravesite every day if they wanted to.  And her brother using this as an excuse to commit crimes and the family using it as an excuse for Brandi's brother's behavior is SICK and PATHETIC!!

I'm just glad I'm not the only one who thinks that!! 

LET HER GO HOME!! 

  

 
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October 13, 2005, 3:14 pm PDT

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Jayleigh - you are completely clueless - Rapists and First degree murders get less time than she has served (which is currently less than 4 years).  Turn off the TV and read the news.  Those convicted of first degree murder get at best 25 to life.  And btw, anyone can scream abuse AFTER THE FACT!!  That is the most common plea of women and while it unfortunately happens often, it is also used quite often as an excuse.  I believe that she now thinks she is innocent, she has convinced herself of that and I believe that she was young and ignorant enough (and her parents were obviously ignorant too) to not engage more with her attorney to know what was going on.  BUT once she signed the documents and accepted the plea she has ADMITTED to voluntary manslaughter.  SHE ADMITTED TO IT!!!  Whether she did it because she and her parents were too ignorant to make a better decision or because wanted to get 4 months for taking a human life, she signed the papers and admitted to manslaughter.  To turn around and say that she is innocent is offensive.  There are people in prison who are innocent (albeit not many) but they opted to go to trial.  If she was innocent she SHOULD HAVE GO TO TRIAL AND LET THE JURY DECIDE!!  If they found her guilty but she never conceded she was then she might have a reasonable argument, at the very least as long as she didn't ever admit it she has a right to continue to claim her innocence.    Poor little girl behind bars.  It sucks that her family only gets to see her once/week.  If she were in the grave they could visit her gravesite every day if they wanted to.  And her brother using this as an excuse to commit crimes and the family using it as an excuse for Brandi's brother's behavior is SICK and PATHETIC!!

The girl was 17 years old at the time and she believed her lawyer was there to help her out. 

By looking at the mother of Daniel and seeing her hatred and uncontrollable rage in eyes id say his abusiveness came from her. 

And if he said he was going to commit suicide well what better way to do it then after a break up and by looking at the picture of the broken windshield on the car isnt it kind of ironic that its shattered in the top left corner im sorry theres no way by a person swerving to hit someone is the damage just going to be there in the top corner it would be on the side of the car and hood as he would have rolled up over the hood. I bet he was abusive the twin brother looks like a beater too and the mother does also seems like she was in control over her husband shes wearing the pants. 

I bet Daniel thought wow my life is over my gf left me i might as well jump in front of her take my life and take hers.And for all these people that have negative comments towards Brandi she was 17 years old people make mistakes she was still a kid and she was probably terrified i say let her go. 

Shes the victim. 

  

 
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October 13, 2005, 3:20 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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Jayleigh - you are completely clueless - Rapists and First degree murders get less time than she has served (which is currently less than 4 years).  Turn off the TV and read the news.  Those convicted of first degree murder get at best 25 to life.  And btw, anyone can scream abuse AFTER THE FACT!!  That is the most common plea of women and while it unfortunately happens often, it is also used quite often as an excuse.  I believe that she now thinks she is innocent, she has convinced herself of that and I believe that she was young and ignorant enough (and her parents were obviously ignorant too) to not engage more with her attorney to know what was going on.  BUT once she signed the documents and accepted the plea she has ADMITTED to voluntary manslaughter.  SHE ADMITTED TO IT!!!  Whether she did it because she and her parents were too ignorant to make a better decision or because wanted to get 4 months for taking a human life, she signed the papers and admitted to manslaughter.  To turn around and say that she is innocent is offensive.  There are people in prison who are innocent (albeit not many) but they opted to go to trial.  If she was innocent she SHOULD HAVE GO TO TRIAL AND LET THE JURY DECIDE!!  If they found her guilty but she never conceded she was then she might have a reasonable argument, at the very least as long as she didn't ever admit it she has a right to continue to claim her innocence.    Poor little girl behind bars.  It sucks that her family only gets to see her once/week.  If she were in the grave they could visit her gravesite every day if they wanted to.  And her brother using this as an excuse to commit crimes and the family using it as an excuse for Brandi's brother's behavior is SICK and PATHETIC!!
I agree with Jayleigh.  Both families are messed up and nothing is being served by having her in jail.  He will not be brought back no matter how long she stays there and there is blame on both sides.  It sounds like suicide to me also.  Sounds like 2 young people that were way over their heads with this relationship.  Let her go!
 
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October 13, 2005, 3:21 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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Jayleigh - you are completely clueless - Rapists and First degree murders get less time than she has served (which is currently less than 4 years).  Turn off the TV and read the news.  Those convicted of first degree murder get at best 25 to life.  And btw, anyone can scream abuse AFTER THE FACT!!  That is the most common plea of women and while it unfortunately happens often, it is also used quite often as an excuse.  I believe that she now thinks she is innocent, she has convinced herself of that and I believe that she was young and ignorant enough (and her parents were obviously ignorant too) to not engage more with her attorney to know what was going on.  BUT once she signed the documents and accepted the plea she has ADMITTED to voluntary manslaughter.  SHE ADMITTED TO IT!!!  Whether she did it because she and her parents were too ignorant to make a better decision or because wanted to get 4 months for taking a human life, she signed the papers and admitted to manslaughter.  To turn around and say that she is innocent is offensive.  There are people in prison who are innocent (albeit not many) but they opted to go to trial.  If she was innocent she SHOULD HAVE GO TO TRIAL AND LET THE JURY DECIDE!!  If they found her guilty but she never conceded she was then she might have a reasonable argument, at the very least as long as she didn't ever admit it she has a right to continue to claim her innocence.    Poor little girl behind bars.  It sucks that her family only gets to see her once/week.  If she were in the grave they could visit her gravesite every day if they wanted to.  And her brother using this as an excuse to commit crimes and the family using it as an excuse for Brandi's brother's behavior is SICK and PATHETIC!!

I so agree with you.  How come she never called the police got him arrested or anything.  He has no voice now so of course she can paint any type of picture she wants he is not here to dispute her! Exactly it is a shame they can ony see her behing bars once in a while.  If she were dead they can look at her grave anytime they wanted to. 

  

It is a cycle and he is going to kill someone next and use this as his defense for his murderous actions.  How can you know that your son sleeps with weapons and you are ok with that he needs to be locked up too. WHAT IS THE WORLD COMING TO? 

 
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October 13, 2005, 3:27 pm PDT

10/13 Cheerleader Scandal

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Jayleigh - you are completely clueless - Rapists and First degree murders get less time than she has served (which is currently less than 4 years).  Turn off the TV and read the news.  Those convicted of first degree murder get at best 25 to life.  And btw, anyone can scream abuse AFTER THE FACT!!  That is the most common plea of women and while it unfortunately happens often, it is also used quite often as an excuse.  I believe that she now thinks she is innocent, she has convinced herself of that and I believe that she was young and ignorant enough (and her parents were obviously ignorant too) to not engage more with her attorney to know what was going on.  BUT once she signed the documents and accepted the plea she has ADMITTED to voluntary manslaughter.  SHE ADMITTED TO IT!!!  Whether she did it because she and her parents were too ignorant to make a better decision or because wanted to get 4 months for taking a human life, she signed the papers and admitted to manslaughter.  To turn around and say that she is innocent is offensive.  There are people in prison who are innocent (albeit not many) but they opted to go to trial.  If she was innocent she SHOULD HAVE GO TO TRIAL AND LET THE JURY DECIDE!!  If they found her guilty but she never conceded she was then she might have a reasonable argument, at the very least as long as she didn't ever admit it she has a right to continue to claim her innocence.    Poor little girl behind bars.  It sucks that her family only gets to see her once/week.  If she were in the grave they could visit her gravesite every day if they wanted to.  And her brother using this as an excuse to commit crimes and the family using it as an excuse for Brandi's brother's behavior is SICK and PATHETIC!!
i dont think she did it purposefully, but regardless, the boys mother is who threw me off. honestly, mom, this poor girl has had her young years destroyed behind bars and could be insanely full of rage and hatred but when she sees you crying she sits there and apologizes, and says she understands what shes going through!!!! and all that mother can do is hate and hate and hate... perhaps im just a forgiving person... or perhaps that mom doesnt realize that she can forgive a person for a mistake, and still miss her son...hun, theres still time just forgive her in your heart, and forgive yourself, and pray to God that things will get better....    theeeen she goes ahead and disses the other mom???? what is going on?!?!! last time i checked.. SHE was the one with the abusive, suicidal son, and the other mom was teaching her children to pay for their crimes. i know its a mean point to show, and its obviously not the boys mom that he turned out that way... but shouldnt she see that and not blame the girls mom for what she may have accidentally, or purposefully have done (whatever the case may be)i too, understand what the boys mom is going through, but show a little compassion... and think about the chance that if her son wasnt dead, maybe his killer AND her brother would be intentionally murdered, according to her own son's threats....
 


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