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May 7, 2008, 4:02 pm PDT

05/08 Is this Marriage Really Over?

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It was 2 years ago that Shani spoke about a mutual friend that was having an affair and how disgusted she was in her and what she was doing to her family.  I truly don't know of a perfect marriage.  We all struggle.  I have been tempted to seek out attention with men because my husband is "ignoring" me.  My husband has treated me poorly in hopes of making me angry so he can "justify" seeking affection of another woman, BUT we stood strong, sought counseling and work on our relationship EVERYDAY!    Shani repeatedly spoke of how selfish it is to have an affair.  What the heck happened?!  I am blown away.  There are kids involved.  Great kids.  Granted I don't live with them, but to watch how Jason interacts with his kids is awesome.  Even at social events in the past he would show such affection for Shani. What more can he do?  Seriously.  We can all hope that everyday is a honeymoon, but that is not reality.  How about end the marriage first and then seek a new relationship?   I can't even imagine how the "friend" that she was hanging out with feels about this ultimate betrayal.  More kids on that side that now have had their lives turned upside down.  Flat out selfish. 

Anyone who could profess disgust with another woman for having an affair, then do the same thing herself is nothing but a damn hypocrite.

 
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May 8, 2008, 10:09 am PDT

05/08 Is this Marriage Really Over?

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It was 2 years ago that Shani spoke about a mutual friend that was having an affair and how disgusted she was in her and what she was doing to her family.  I truly don't know of a perfect marriage.  We all struggle.  I have been tempted to seek out attention with men because my husband is "ignoring" me.  My husband has treated me poorly in hopes of making me angry so he can "justify" seeking affection of another woman, BUT we stood strong, sought counseling and work on our relationship EVERYDAY!    Shani repeatedly spoke of how selfish it is to have an affair.  What the heck happened?!  I am blown away.  There are kids involved.  Great kids.  Granted I don't live with them, but to watch how Jason interacts with his kids is awesome.  Even at social events in the past he would show such affection for Shani. What more can he do?  Seriously.  We can all hope that everyday is a honeymoon, but that is not reality.  How about end the marriage first and then seek a new relationship?   I can't even imagine how the "friend" that she was hanging out with feels about this ultimate betrayal.  More kids on that side that now have had their lives turned upside down.  Flat out selfish. 
On today's show, Shani was the epitome of selfishness. It was all about her, her, her. Jason wasn't meeting her needs? Was she meeting his needs? Shani's constant references to how Greg made her feel suggests that their affair is basically sexual. Maybe the stress of working hard to give Shani and their three sons a nice house, and who knows what else, was taking a toll on Jason's sex drive. And, Shani mentioned running her own business. Maybe there were times when put her business ahead of Jason. Maybe she rebuffed him sexually before he began rebuffing her.
 
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May 8, 2008, 1:26 pm PDT

05/08 Is this Marriage Really Over?

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It was 2 years ago that Shani spoke about a mutual friend that was having an affair and how disgusted she was in her and what she was doing to her family.  I truly don't know of a perfect marriage.  We all struggle.  I have been tempted to seek out attention with men because my husband is "ignoring" me.  My husband has treated me poorly in hopes of making me angry so he can "justify" seeking affection of another woman, BUT we stood strong, sought counseling and work on our relationship EVERYDAY!    Shani repeatedly spoke of how selfish it is to have an affair.  What the heck happened?!  I am blown away.  There are kids involved.  Great kids.  Granted I don't live with them, but to watch how Jason interacts with his kids is awesome.  Even at social events in the past he would show such affection for Shani. What more can he do?  Seriously.  We can all hope that everyday is a honeymoon, but that is not reality.  How about end the marriage first and then seek a new relationship?   I can't even imagine how the "friend" that she was hanging out with feels about this ultimate betrayal.  More kids on that side that now have had their lives turned upside down.  Flat out selfish. 
All the words that Dr. Phil spoke to Shani were so true.  I've been in her shoes... literally.  Great life, terrific family, church, job, dream house.... yet miserable.  Miserable because my  (2nd) husband couldn't see me.  I was invisiable and unimportant to him.  One can only live so long being ignored and tossed aside, time and time again.  Temptation will get the best of even the strongest woman.  I would have NEVER in a million years thought I would have had an affair... my first husband had an affair on me, two within our first year.  So, I NEVER wanted to be the other woman... yet, no matter how hard I tried, prayed, begged for strength- it happened anyway. I was strong for about 8 months... unbelievably resiliant ... but after a while I begin to show signs of weakness... it was happening... and I found out I was human.  I failed.     I was weak.  I didn't listen to anyone... but my heart. And honestly, my heart misled me.    In the end, it turned out exactly as Dr. Phil warned Shani it would... right down to the last detail.  Would I have listened to Dr. Phil if he told me all those things while I was still married?  Perhaps... Would it have made my husband love me again?  Probably not.  But at least, I woulnd't have made the monumental mistakes I made to get out of that marriage... looking back, I would have done it differently... Shani, take Dr. Phil's advice.  Because it truly is broken, even before it begins.  No matter how you slice it... it will never work.  The end result will be the same,no matter how hard you try.  You will never, ever trust eachother.  Fate is not in your corner.  I have lost friends, lost respect of my family and co-workers.  My ex got our church, since he was the 'victim'. Of course, he doesn't cop to the fact that he never wanted sex or wouldn't talk or physically touch me for months prior to the affair... regardless, he is still the victim and I am and will always be the evil b*tch that did that to poor, sweet Tom. I've regretted everything I have done... I still have trouble forgiving myself... and still hate myself at times.  It wasn't who I was... it's not who I am... yet a label is a label... save yourself the misery and anguish... I don't care who the other guy is, YOU are worth so much more than that.  It did happen to me... don't let it happen to you.  
 
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May 9, 2008, 2:25 pm PDT

Resources to help marriages like this and worse

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It was 2 years ago that Shani spoke about a mutual friend that was having an affair and how disgusted she was in her and what she was doing to her family.  I truly don't know of a perfect marriage.  We all struggle.  I have been tempted to seek out attention with men because my husband is "ignoring" me.  My husband has treated me poorly in hopes of making me angry so he can "justify" seeking affection of another woman, BUT we stood strong, sought counseling and work on our relationship EVERYDAY!    Shani repeatedly spoke of how selfish it is to have an affair.  What the heck happened?!  I am blown away.  There are kids involved.  Great kids.  Granted I don't live with them, but to watch how Jason interacts with his kids is awesome.  Even at social events in the past he would show such affection for Shani. What more can he do?  Seriously.  We can all hope that everyday is a honeymoon, but that is not reality.  How about end the marriage first and then seek a new relationship?   I can't even imagine how the "friend" that she was hanging out with feels about this ultimate betrayal.  More kids on that side that now have had their lives turned upside down.  Flat out selfish. 

Pride cometh before a fall. Whenever we pass judgment on someone else, we open our own lives up to experiencing a temptation that can lead to the same situation or worse. The bible says that all humans are capable of ALL sins, basically lest we judge and then we fall. I know of a man who judged a friend of his and a friend of his wifes for cheating and ruining their marriages, he was also getting very involved in voluntering at a center where he advocated remaining faithful and abstaining from sex before marriage... then he ran into a woman from his "past" drinking and partying life and went out with her once, got totally drunk (he was not used to drinking anymore) and committed infidelity on his family and sent his life and mental health into a talespin too.

 

TO JASON and others in hurtful marriages:

 

Here are some GREAT resources that can help turn a marriage like this around, even ones worse than this.

 

The Amplified Bible (like Joyce Meyer's one because it is EASY to read and understand and it has a lot of helpful "talks" in it - read the Gospels, the new testament, and Hosea - he married an adulteress and loved her through it - Study Jesus, Stephen, the other disciples, if they can be praising God and preaching after being whipped and standing in a prison for preaching then if we have Jesus Christ in our heart, then we can do all things and faint not)

Divorce Busting by Michele Weiner - Davis (a lot of techniques that have QUICK results)

Love and Respect by Dr. Emerson Eggerichs (read the WHOLE book - the last chapters address what to do if it does not "appear" to be working or if the offensive spouse seems to be getting worse)

Breaking Free by Beth Moore (read the WHOLE book, this explains bondage and a spouse committing adultery and thinking that she is not hurting anyone is BLINDED and in bonded - she needs to be surrounded by prayers that the scales from her eyes fall off in Jesus name - pray it, stand on it, and wait for it - CONFESS THE CHANGE, don't confess the circumstance - see with the eyes of faith and speak on THAT and ONLY THAT).

Demonology and Deliverance at bennyhinn.org - this gets into the depth of spiritual warfare - people in bondage to adultery, lust, homosexuality, perversity, lying, prostitution, etc are in bondage

 

When you are in a relationship like this and standing through it, these prayer lines can help you to pray through it rather than talk to someone who is negative and speaking death over your situation (remember Proverbs 18:21 death and life are in the tongue and those who indulge WILL eat the fruit of it for good or bad). If you have a hard time believing in the power of YOUR words, then read The Power of Your Words by Dan Gossett - this book is about $6 at the Family Christian bookstores and watch the movie What the Bleep Do We Know  - this movie will illustrate the concept through a story, scientists discussing it, and it shows the water presentation - there is lots about this available online and the science regarding the water molecules is real - I have the lecture in Japanese which is available online too. 

 

Many of these prayer lines are available 24/7 and I can also be emailed for prayer, my info is under my profile.

 

www.family.org

Focus on the Family - 1 free phone counseling session per year and an excellent referral locally 800 A FAMILY or 800 232 6459

 

Copeland Ministries

www.kcm.org

1 800 575 4455

Free magazine - Victory Voice

 

Daystar Prayer Line

1 800 329 0029

Can leave message and receive call back

 

Benny Hinn Ministries (Miracle Crusades & Conferences)

1 800 433 1900

www.BennyHinn.org

 

Life Today Ministries

www.lifetoday.org

1 800 955 0777 prayer line and donation line for building wells & feeding children

 

Joyce Meyer Ministries

www.joycemeyer.org

1 800 727 9673

Free magazine - Enjoying Everyday Life

 

www.PeterYoungren.org

24 Hour Prayer Center 1 800 275 2713

Can leave message or get call back

 

www.cnb.com

1 (800) 759-0700

The Prayer Club 24 hours- usually someone picks up

 

Marriages like this CAN BE turned around, SINNERS CAN CHANGE with Jesus, and miracles still do happen all the time, TODAY, for those who believe. The prayers of a righteous man avail much - in James from the bible.

 

Heather  

 


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