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May 17, 2008, 6:41 pm PDT

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 This could be interesting I remember the preview the kid slapping his mother "Be quiet, I am speaking ", my first thought and I'm not kidding, " They wouldn't find the body ", then after the knee jerk, I thought, hmm how did the kid get this way in the first place. Now I'm sure we'll hear ADHD be brought up (raised two boys with this disorder, and nope, ADHD is NOT synomous with this type of behavior ).
Is Mom parenting out of guilt ? Or has the boy never LEARNED no hitting, or that kind of backtalk ? How have the adults in his life modeled appropriate behavior, are they the parents who go into a store or retaurant bully the staff, yell at service personel for no other reason than they KNOW that service provider has no recourse or they lose their job ?  Are these the parents that SCREAM at a teacher because the teacher had the NERVE to fail their precious child ?
More seriously, has he learned from the male role models in his life, that this is the way we treat women, or anyone who has the NERVE to not "Toe the Line ", so to speak, and is Mom too tired or too much of a wimp to be the parent he NEEDS, if he needs counselling, then you take him.
How much good are these camps really, if there is nothing in place to change the home environment for these kids to come home to.
I am also tired of these parents that allow their kids to run wild then scream foul when their kids become unruly teens, then instead of being parents, we just send them away and let someone else fix them.
You first thought was funny.  I think we all have been there, but never would we actually do it.
 
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May 18, 2008, 7:04 am PDT

05/20 The Dr. Phil House: Brat Camp

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 This could be interesting I remember the preview the kid slapping his mother "Be quiet, I am speaking ", my first thought and I'm not kidding, " They wouldn't find the body ", then after the knee jerk, I thought, hmm how did the kid get this way in the first place. Now I'm sure we'll hear ADHD be brought up (raised two boys with this disorder, and nope, ADHD is NOT synomous with this type of behavior ).
Is Mom parenting out of guilt ? Or has the boy never LEARNED no hitting, or that kind of backtalk ? How have the adults in his life modeled appropriate behavior, are they the parents who go into a store or retaurant bully the staff, yell at service personel for no other reason than they KNOW that service provider has no recourse or they lose their job ?  Are these the parents that SCREAM at a teacher because the teacher had the NERVE to fail their precious child ?
More seriously, has he learned from the male role models in his life, that this is the way we treat women, or anyone who has the NERVE to not "Toe the Line ", so to speak, and is Mom too tired or too much of a wimp to be the parent he NEEDS, if he needs counselling, then you take him.
How much good are these camps really, if there is nothing in place to change the home environment for these kids to come home to.
I am also tired of these parents that allow their kids to run wild then scream foul when their kids become unruly teens, then instead of being parents, we just send them away and let someone else fix them.

"my first thought and I'm not kidding, " They wouldn't find the body"

hmmm.....have you considered that since the mother already lost one of her children to cancer that she would not want to kill her remaining child?? 

 

 

Is Mom parenting out of guilt ?

Again, can't imagine many parents would not harbor some kind of guilt after losing one of their children to the above mentioned disease.

 

I think you all need to reserve judgement until and unless you have walked a mile in one of their shoes....

 

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May 20, 2008, 7:37 am PDT

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 This could be interesting I remember the preview the kid slapping his mother "Be quiet, I am speaking ", my first thought and I'm not kidding, " They wouldn't find the body ", then after the knee jerk, I thought, hmm how did the kid get this way in the first place. Now I'm sure we'll hear ADHD be brought up (raised two boys with this disorder, and nope, ADHD is NOT synomous with this type of behavior ).
Is Mom parenting out of guilt ? Or has the boy never LEARNED no hitting, or that kind of backtalk ? How have the adults in his life modeled appropriate behavior, are they the parents who go into a store or retaurant bully the staff, yell at service personel for no other reason than they KNOW that service provider has no recourse or they lose their job ?  Are these the parents that SCREAM at a teacher because the teacher had the NERVE to fail their precious child ?
More seriously, has he learned from the male role models in his life, that this is the way we treat women, or anyone who has the NERVE to not "Toe the Line ", so to speak, and is Mom too tired or too much of a wimp to be the parent he NEEDS, if he needs counselling, then you take him.
How much good are these camps really, if there is nothing in place to change the home environment for these kids to come home to.
I am also tired of these parents that allow their kids to run wild then scream foul when their kids become unruly teens, then instead of being parents, we just send them away and let someone else fix them.
Dr. Phil always says the strongest role model for the child is the same sex parent.  Where is Noah's dad?
 
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May 21, 2008, 6:10 pm PDT

05/20 The Dr. Phil House: Brat Camp

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 This could be interesting I remember the preview the kid slapping his mother "Be quiet, I am speaking ", my first thought and I'm not kidding, " They wouldn't find the body ", then after the knee jerk, I thought, hmm how did the kid get this way in the first place. Now I'm sure we'll hear ADHD be brought up (raised two boys with this disorder, and nope, ADHD is NOT synomous with this type of behavior ).
Is Mom parenting out of guilt ? Or has the boy never LEARNED no hitting, or that kind of backtalk ? How have the adults in his life modeled appropriate behavior, are they the parents who go into a store or retaurant bully the staff, yell at service personel for no other reason than they KNOW that service provider has no recourse or they lose their job ?  Are these the parents that SCREAM at a teacher because the teacher had the NERVE to fail their precious child ?
More seriously, has he learned from the male role models in his life, that this is the way we treat women, or anyone who has the NERVE to not "Toe the Line ", so to speak, and is Mom too tired or too much of a wimp to be the parent he NEEDS, if he needs counselling, then you take him.
How much good are these camps really, if there is nothing in place to change the home environment for these kids to come home to.
I am also tired of these parents that allow their kids to run wild then scream foul when their kids become unruly teens, then instead of being parents, we just send them away and let someone else fix them.
That kid, the boy who slapped his mother, seems very smart to me.  He seems very good at expressing his emotions.  I'm no psychiatrist but something is going on there with that mom.  I don't know if she is physically abusing him, but I would be willing to bet she has previously.  I think she is trying to play a victim..  She's not strong for her child.  She's probably sad all the time!  He's probably angry with her for being sad all the time, and doesn't feel like he can make her happy.  She's so WEAK!  I know from experience that seeing someone you love hurt, and not even try to be happy, can cause you to have hateful feelings for them.  Imagine having to go through that at this boy's age.  Personally, and this is only MY opinion, I'm glad he slapped her.  She deserved it.  I mean, dang, she wouldn't let the kid talk.  After all, he did tell her to shut up and let him talk.  She was supposed to listen to what he had to say in that session.  I don't think he's a bad kid.  I think he's smarter than she is, and that is creating a power struggle.  She's threatened by the fact that he can call her bluff.  I'm on the kid's side in this matter.  I think the mom is the problem 100%.  She's an idiot, and the kid can't help it if he's got brains, and her ignorance is annoying.
 


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