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June 12, 2008, 12:47 pm PDT

06/12 Teacher Sex Scandal, Part 1

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 I didn't see this show when it first aired. First, the fact that one of the students ia a so-called "Christian," cuts no ice with me in terms of his credibility. Bush is allegedly a Christian and he has no credibility whatever, in fact, pathological liar is probably a more apt description. Secondly, school guidance counselors, who obviously have no training in investigation or appropriate interrogation, have no business being involved. Her questioning the boys together, instead of separately, screwed up the case from the beginning. Dr. Phil's questioning her  (the teacher's) demeanor, as to why she wasn't upset when she heard the allegations over the telephone from the boy, didn't surprise me. She had heard these allegations before and had been living with them for some time. If this was a new allegation, or she hadn't heard any of them before, I'm sure her demeanor would have been extremely different. Finally, the school board's actions in refusing to tell her who her accusers were or the specifics of the allegations, are such a basic denial of due process as to be shocking in this day and age. The fact is there are predatory teachers and our children must be protected from them. There are also, however, false accusations that ruin lives of those accused and if you make the allegations shocking enough they are believed simply because of the nature of the allegations. Anyone remember the McMartin pre-school case?
I don't agree with you about Bush, but the rest of your post? Heck, yes!
I remember the McMartin case. And, the ruinous nature of those allegations. Season One or Two, Dr Phil did a show on people falsely accused of various things. And, the effect these allegations had on them. Don't remember if the McMartins were included, though.
I agree that the allegations against Joelle were mis-handled by school district personnel. Then. And, now. She was tried. And, acquitted. So, shouldn't her teaching credentials be reinstated?
One boy has already recanted.
And, the other two didn't show me any credibility.
The first boy's "profession" to be a "Christian" doesn't cut any ice with me, either. According to Joelle, the story this boy told Dr Phil, wasn't the one he told earlier.
And, the second boy failed his polygraph test.
It bothered me too. that Dr Phil questioned Joelle's demeanor. What was his problem? That she wasn't a histrionic, squalling drama queen? A drama queenish demeanor would've compromised her credibilty.
Another boy "comes forward" tomorrow. Wonder what he'll have to say.
 
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June 12, 2008, 1:05 pm PDT

I felt the same way!

Quote From: jokr8790

 I didn't see this show when it first aired. First, the fact that one of the students ia a so-called "Christian," cuts no ice with me in terms of his credibility. Bush is allegedly a Christian and he has no credibility whatever, in fact, pathological liar is probably a more apt description. Secondly, school guidance counselors, who obviously have no training in investigation or appropriate interrogation, have no business being involved. Her questioning the boys together, instead of separately, screwed up the case from the beginning. Dr. Phil's questioning her  (the teacher's) demeanor, as to why she wasn't upset when she heard the allegations over the telephone from the boy, didn't surprise me. She had heard these allegations before and had been living with them for some time. If this was a new allegation, or she hadn't heard any of them before, I'm sure her demeanor would have been extremely different. Finally, the school board's actions in refusing to tell her who her accusers were or the specifics of the allegations, are such a basic denial of due process as to be shocking in this day and age. The fact is there are predatory teachers and our children must be protected from them. There are also, however, false accusations that ruin lives of those accused and if you make the allegations shocking enough they are believed simply because of the nature of the allegations. Anyone remember the McMartin pre-school case?

I felt the same way about Dr. Phil questioning her demeanor. I even posted on this subject alone. I totally agree with you on that. I haven't been able to watch the entire show, I'll watch it again so I can't make any opinions about the guilt or innocence yet, but I had to reply on this particular subject. I felt he was wrong in asking this. I feel it comes down to common sense why she is acting the way that she is. Lawsuits that drag on or accusations that drag on can wear you down, you have to be strong, especially if your right.

 


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