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October 17, 2005, 12:10 pm PDT

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If you are so concerned about teaching boys that it is a natural thing to beast feet the young then show them a mother dog that is taking care of her puppies now dogs walk around and show everything and they dont care but this instinct was put in animals and we are not animals.  You know there have been several female teachers in the news resently who have been teaching young boys about sexuality perhaps you do not disagree with this.  Perhaps you may want to take your family to visit a nudist camp so that you can get them conditioned so that they have an opinion that one breast is as good as another.  You just dont want to cover it up.  Why not let you sons find out about breasts after they get married.  Is there something wrong with that?

Why should boys or children in general have to wait until they are married to learn about body parts and their functions? 

  

My daughter is 3 years old.. she knows the difference between a vagina and a penis and knows what breasts are.  

  

I think bottom line is proper education is the key and breastfeeding in public should not be such the big deal that everyone is making it out to be. I chose to breastfeed and did so EVERYWHERE but did so discretly I think that is the key here folks. 

  

  

 
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October 17, 2005, 12:19 pm PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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If you are so concerned about teaching boys that it is a natural thing to beast feet the young then show them a mother dog that is taking care of her puppies now dogs walk around and show everything and they dont care but this instinct was put in animals and we are not animals.  You know there have been several female teachers in the news resently who have been teaching young boys about sexuality perhaps you do not disagree with this.  Perhaps you may want to take your family to visit a nudist camp so that you can get them conditioned so that they have an opinion that one breast is as good as another.  You just dont want to cover it up.  Why not let you sons find out about breasts after they get married.  Is there something wrong with that?

I think nursing mothers should be discreet, but if we don't want our sons to see breast till they get married. That would require NO TV's in the home, no public schooling and well lets just lock them up shall we, cause that will be the ONLY way to make sure they never get a boob shot. Odds are they will see more from day time tv than a nursing mother. I do agree a nursing mother should do her best and be as discreet as possible! If you look through the pictures on this board you will see mothers holding their 'nursing' children and you see NO boob!! Unlike watching BayWatch where they make a point to push them up to their chins! 

  

As for the teachers teaching young boys, if we are thinking of the same thing, they are not teaching about sexuality, they are 'having sex' with them. It's not like a nursing mother in public is going here hold my child and my breast, now help the child to latch on. They are simply feeding their children, they are not trying to stick their boobs up in anyones face. Most nursing mother do try to be discreet and I will say for those who feel the need to have both breast out while nursing are giving us who are trying to be modest a bad rep!  

 
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October 17, 2005, 1:26 pm PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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If you are so concerned about teaching boys that it is a natural thing to beast feet the young then show them a mother dog that is taking care of her puppies now dogs walk around and show everything and they dont care but this instinct was put in animals and we are not animals.  You know there have been several female teachers in the news resently who have been teaching young boys about sexuality perhaps you do not disagree with this.  Perhaps you may want to take your family to visit a nudist camp so that you can get them conditioned so that they have an opinion that one breast is as good as another.  You just dont want to cover it up.  Why not let you sons find out about breasts after they get married.  Is there something wrong with that?

Are you trying to say that breastfeeding is something that animals do and not humans? Or that women shouldn't follow their instincts because we are too good for that? Technically we are animals, we are mammals, just because we may be at the top of the food chain and special to God doesn't exempt us from fulfilling our responsibilities and using our bodies to provide perfect nourishment to our children. Dogs don't always wear clothes, and even if they did they nurse from the belly area, not from some sort of highly evolved sexualized breast. That sounds more similar to chimps and apes, but I am not certain that those species sexualize the female breast at all. Dog babies are born with the ability to walk and make their own way to the nipples. Human babies have to be held and brought up to breast level with the mother's arms. That is why breasts are near the arms, because human babies can't walk. If I give you a hug you will feel my breasts. Holding a baby is a sweet and lovely thing, giving it human milk is not something to be ashamed of. We are humans and God created us with the ability to nourish our babies with a species specific milk from our own breasts, it is something only a woman can do and perhaps that is really why you are threatened by it. Because you don't have the power of bearing and sustaining a human being from your own body (I got the impression you are male).  

This arrogance that we are somehow better than the animals has created a lot of problems in our world, and the impact of bottle feeding on human babies is probably the most minor one. Stop pretending that humans rule and we should not care about the helpless - which includes baby humans, dogs, animals, plants, and our world. What we choose to do has an impact on future generations and formerly thriving species who are now extinct. Bottles and formula only make our contribution to the killing of Mother Earth worse by the ecological cost of producing and disposing of formula, cans, and cleaning bottles, all of which is unnecessary to begin with if the baby has a mommy who isn't medically contraindicated from nursing. 

 
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October 20, 2005, 12:50 pm PDT

10/07 The Latest Debates

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If you are so concerned about teaching boys that it is a natural thing to beast feet the young then show them a mother dog that is taking care of her puppies now dogs walk around and show everything and they dont care but this instinct was put in animals and we are not animals.  You know there have been several female teachers in the news resently who have been teaching young boys about sexuality perhaps you do not disagree with this.  Perhaps you may want to take your family to visit a nudist camp so that you can get them conditioned so that they have an opinion that one breast is as good as another.  You just dont want to cover it up.  Why not let you sons find out about breasts after they get married.  Is there something wrong with that?

My boys are growing up on a farm.  They definitely know where babies (both animals and humans) come from and how you feed them.  They have even been there to help pull a calf.  They know body parts and how no one looks exactly the same.  My 7 yo (he was 5 at the time) was upset after seeing daddy come out of the shower.  When I asked him what was wrong, he said that daddy had a bigger penis than him AND he also had 'fuzz'.  I had to explain to him that daddy was older and when he got bigger so would his penis and he would also get 'fuzz'.  But I also had to tell him that everyone wasn't the same size.  Some penises would be bigger than others, just like boobs.   

  

I guess I'm uncomfortable with public breastfeeding because I'm more 'modest'.  I don't like feeling exposed and it makes me uncomfortable to see women that are confident with their ability to feed in public.  Breastfeeding in public will always be a hot topic and we all have the freedoms to express our views.  And I thought the big circumcision debate on my mom- to-be website was the most opinionated discussion around.  I need to get out more! 

 


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