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October 18, 2005, 11:57 am PDT

10/18 "I Am Right!"

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I know this will infuriate all the religious folk on this board, but I think this focus on sex is much too overblown.  I don't think that what we do with our fun bits defines who we are, how well we will perform as spouses or how "good" we are.  I define good as being kind, generous and tolerant.  Loads of religious people who have rigidly avoided sex except during marriage are mean, selfish and intolerant of others.  If you want to be proud of something, do something that you can be proud of. 

  

 I would be MUCH more interested in a man who had had other serious relationships than I would be in a man who had reached the age of 30 without ever loving another person. I wouldn't expect him to be capable of having a deep relationship or be intimate.  To be able to be truly intimate with a partner, there has to be a feeling of openness and mutual acceptance-farts and all.  You can't ever be truly intimate with a woman when focused on their external appearance. 

You're certainly entitled to feel the way you do. It doesn't infuriate me.  

  

I remained a virgin partially for religious reasons but  there were other motivating factors. I had a healthy fear of STDs, which can do great damage. And I do think my sexual history defines part of who I am, although I don't think it makes me better than anyone else. 

  

"Loads of religious people who have rigidly avoided sex except during marriage are mean, selfish and intolerant of others. " 

  

That may be so. But there are plenty of non-virgins who are non-religious that are equally mean, selfish and intolerant. That's a rather wide brush to paint religious folks with.  

  

 
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October 18, 2005, 12:56 pm PDT

Are we talking about Love or Sex?

Quote From: judyblue22

I know this will infuriate all the religious folk on this board, but I think this focus on sex is much too overblown.  I don't think that what we do with our fun bits defines who we are, how well we will perform as spouses or how "good" we are.  I define good as being kind, generous and tolerant.  Loads of religious people who have rigidly avoided sex except during marriage are mean, selfish and intolerant of others.  If you want to be proud of something, do something that you can be proud of. 

  

 I would be MUCH more interested in a man who had had other serious relationships than I would be in a man who had reached the age of 30 without ever loving another person. I wouldn't expect him to be capable of having a deep relationship or be intimate.  To be able to be truly intimate with a partner, there has to be a feeling of openness and mutual acceptance-farts and all.  You can't ever be truly intimate with a woman when focused on their external appearance. 

Speaking as one of the "religious folk" I have to say that I am not offended by your comment. If that was your intention I hate to disappoint you.  I am a Christian, who succombed to temptation as a teenager. My only regret is that even though I am older now, I feel that there is baggage between my husband and I. It, personally, makes me uncomfortable that I didn't have that to give my husband when we got married.  God intended it to be a gift that you are to give to your spouse, not just any man or woman that you meet at a bar. However, you seem to be getting Sex and Love confused...No one ever said that the 30 year old virgin ahd never "loved" anyone. Just that he hadn't had sex with anyone. You can certainly have a feeling of openness and mutual acceptance with someone whom you haven't had sex with...in fact I'm sure that you can, as you say, "fart" around someone you love and respect without actually having had sex with them. I am proud that he has been able to maintain his virginity...and I hope he is too.
 
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October 19, 2005, 4:50 am PDT

It seems were the minority

Quote From: judyblue22

I know this will infuriate all the religious folk on this board, but I think this focus on sex is much too overblown.  I don't think that what we do with our fun bits defines who we are, how well we will perform as spouses or how "good" we are.  I define good as being kind, generous and tolerant.  Loads of religious people who have rigidly avoided sex except during marriage are mean, selfish and intolerant of others.  If you want to be proud of something, do something that you can be proud of. 

  

 I would be MUCH more interested in a man who had had other serious relationships than I would be in a man who had reached the age of 30 without ever loving another person. I wouldn't expect him to be capable of having a deep relationship or be intimate.  To be able to be truly intimate with a partner, there has to be a feeling of openness and mutual acceptance-farts and all.  You can't ever be truly intimate with a woman when focused on their external appearance. 

Ive read through the messages and am surprised that 99% of the posts are agreeing with waiting till your 30 (or older) to have sex.  I read one post that told Mark he wasnt missing anything.  tehehe  That just made me giggle!  :D     I would  have to dissagree with that poster.  I would say Mark is missing quite a big something!  LOL 

  

Im with you and have to say in truth I would be more interested in a man who had at least some experience with love (physical or otherwise) as opposed to no experience at all.   I do respect peoples individual choice on the matter,  though.  I just feel different about it is all.   Personally, when I was dating,   I couldnt have cared less if they were or wernt a virgin.    

 


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