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September 6, 2008, 7:02 pm PDT

you are so right

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I am 61 years ol, grew up in the suburbs of Los Angeles and never experienced racisim.  I wasn't taught it, I just never knew about it.  I learned about it when I married a militarty man and lived all over the place.  When I learned that a friend of mine from Florida would not get on a bus if the driver was black, it made me laugh.  I have never heard of anything so ridiculous.  Then my black neighbors told me what they had gone thorough when growing up, couldn't try on clothes they wanted to buy, etc.  I was mad.  I know my mind, and If I had been born black and lived in their area I would be dead.  Now I am a very proud and happy gramma of a black grandson and he considers himswelf black.  I try to teach him all I can about his history, try to keep him from going into the gangs (white or black or hispanic, asian).  I want him to carry himself with pride, be smart, make the right choices and tell him how it is.  He has a great sense of humor, manners, and he does not even think about "what" his friends are.  I see lots of people looking at him then looking at me and I know it is because he is so handsome, how could it possibly be anything else?

 

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Children do live with what they learn you can see that in any family the way there parents were brought up is the way there children will be
 
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September 12, 2008, 3:57 pm PDT

What about the kids?

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I am 61 years ol, grew up in the suburbs of Los Angeles and never experienced racisim.  I wasn't taught it, I just never knew about it.  I learned about it when I married a militarty man and lived all over the place.  When I learned that a friend of mine from Florida would not get on a bus if the driver was black, it made me laugh.  I have never heard of anything so ridiculous.  Then my black neighbors told me what they had gone thorough when growing up, couldn't try on clothes they wanted to buy, etc.  I was mad.  I know my mind, and If I had been born black and lived in their area I would be dead.  Now I am a very proud and happy gramma of a black grandson and he considers himswelf black.  I try to teach him all I can about his history, try to keep him from going into the gangs (white or black or hispanic, asian).  I want him to carry himself with pride, be smart, make the right choices and tell him how it is.  He has a great sense of humor, manners, and he does not even think about "what" his friends are.  I see lots of people looking at him then looking at me and I know it is because he is so handsome, how could it possibly be anything else?

 

Children live what they learn.

Who is teaching the kids these things? Children do learn and end up living what they learn.  I get that the "N" word has history. I get that it some use it for "endearments" and think nothing of it. It is supposed to be a hateful word so it should not be used at all.  I don't understand the black and white issues now. Not that I am ignorant to them, I just don't understand why they still need to exist. My children don't know the meaning of the "n" word. They don't think there are any differences between people. Of course they can tell that people have different types of skin but they don't understand what it means or why. They certainly would not understand why some people can use it and others can't, becasue we are all "PEOPLE".

 

Our family came home one night and had left the TV on a cartoon channel.. We walked in the door and there ws a cartoon show on and we heard the word "ni....". It was a little girl talking about her grandpa. I ran and turned off the TV. Kids don't get this. Why is it a bad word for them but not this little cartoon character talking on TV.  If my children had repeated this somewhere, speaking of perhaps an older black man (that's what an"N" was to them on the TV) , my kids would labeled as racist and foulmouthed little creeps. NOONE should be allowed to use it since it is such an awful word with horrible connotations. 

 

We shouldn't teach hate nor racism nor stereotypes to our children no matter what colour we are. Perceptions and ideas are most often put into children's minds. We all have to stop continuing this needless situation.

 
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September 13, 2008, 1:19 pm PDT

good for you

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I am 61 years ol, grew up in the suburbs of Los Angeles and never experienced racisim.  I wasn't taught it, I just never knew about it.  I learned about it when I married a militarty man and lived all over the place.  When I learned that a friend of mine from Florida would not get on a bus if the driver was black, it made me laugh.  I have never heard of anything so ridiculous.  Then my black neighbors told me what they had gone thorough when growing up, couldn't try on clothes they wanted to buy, etc.  I was mad.  I know my mind, and If I had been born black and lived in their area I would be dead.  Now I am a very proud and happy gramma of a black grandson and he considers himswelf black.  I try to teach him all I can about his history, try to keep him from going into the gangs (white or black or hispanic, asian).  I want him to carry himself with pride, be smart, make the right choices and tell him how it is.  He has a great sense of humor, manners, and he does not even think about "what" his friends are.  I see lots of people looking at him then looking at me and I know it is because he is so handsome, how could it possibly be anything else?

 

Children live what they learn.

my mother is 80.  I have 5 bio-racial children. well they are mostly grown now. at first she disowned me.

i tried to keep the lines of communication open. but, what can i say. sometimes i get really bitter about the way she treated me and my children. my oldest daughter had a baby that was premature. it held on to life for 2 months and died. I was devasted. my family never came to the service. we had a bad snow that year.

i am not close to my side of the family at all. i keep in contact sometimes but i still have that resentment that will follow me to my grave. i was born in the late 50's and i grew up watching the violence towards blacks. i was appalled. hurt, angry ...i had found that i was more easily accepted in the black community that the blacks were accepted in the whites. however, i have heard the race card played when it is convieniant. i don't feel i am responsible for what someones ancestors do. i just do my part. if you treat me right. i will treat you right. i want the same respect that you want. your grandchild is lucky to have you for a grandparent. not all children are so lucky to have someone love them because they are who they are.

good luck in the world. i wish you the best.

 
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September 15, 2008, 11:34 am PDT

09/12 The N-Word Debate

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I am 61 years ol, grew up in the suburbs of Los Angeles and never experienced racisim.  I wasn't taught it, I just never knew about it.  I learned about it when I married a militarty man and lived all over the place.  When I learned that a friend of mine from Florida would not get on a bus if the driver was black, it made me laugh.  I have never heard of anything so ridiculous.  Then my black neighbors told me what they had gone thorough when growing up, couldn't try on clothes they wanted to buy, etc.  I was mad.  I know my mind, and If I had been born black and lived in their area I would be dead.  Now I am a very proud and happy gramma of a black grandson and he considers himswelf black.  I try to teach him all I can about his history, try to keep him from going into the gangs (white or black or hispanic, asian).  I want him to carry himself with pride, be smart, make the right choices and tell him how it is.  He has a great sense of humor, manners, and he does not even think about "what" his friends are.  I see lots of people looking at him then looking at me and I know it is because he is so handsome, how could it possibly be anything else?

 

Children live what they learn.

I think that is a wonderful example of how we can make the world a better place. Not acknowledging what background a person is. Is that really that important? As far as the "n" word people give that "word" to much power. It is a part of histoy that won't ever go away, as much as we try.  We can not control what people say in public (remember freedom of speech) or what they say behind closed doors. We have to realize that there is ignorance in the world, and what counts is how you as a human being reacts to the ignorance. There is no solution to this debate, it will never be solved because we as a  people will not let it go. it is not fair to say slavery is over just get over it. Some people hold onto things not sure why but thats just the way life is. I guess
 
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September 18, 2008, 1:32 am PDT

I know what I would think.............

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I am 61 years ol, grew up in the suburbs of Los Angeles and never experienced racisim.  I wasn't taught it, I just never knew about it.  I learned about it when I married a militarty man and lived all over the place.  When I learned that a friend of mine from Florida would not get on a bus if the driver was black, it made me laugh.  I have never heard of anything so ridiculous.  Then my black neighbors told me what they had gone thorough when growing up, couldn't try on clothes they wanted to buy, etc.  I was mad.  I know my mind, and If I had been born black and lived in their area I would be dead.  Now I am a very proud and happy gramma of a black grandson and he considers himswelf black.  I try to teach him all I can about his history, try to keep him from going into the gangs (white or black or hispanic, asian).  I want him to carry himself with pride, be smart, make the right choices and tell him how it is.  He has a great sense of humor, manners, and he does not even think about "what" his friends are.  I see lots of people looking at him then looking at me and I know it is because he is so handsome, how could it possibly be anything else?

 

Children live what they learn.

If I happened to see you out with your grandson I wouldn't have any thought at all unless, he was exceptionally good looking, had a great smile and was polite, was loud, rude, screaming and running around. Those are the things that I notice. The fact that you are white and he is black wouldn't mean anything to me, I would just consider it a normal grandma & grandson outing. As a white person, I have to admit that I'm glad that I didn't grow up during the time where black people had to "stay in their place". The injustice of that would have ripped my soul out! But considering the fact that it's the year 2008, the 21st century, I feel that it's high time everyone was recognized for who they are, not the color of their skin. In my own mind it's such an antiquated notion. As humans we should be able to rise above such pettiness. But since world peace is unfortunately such an unrealistic goal, why should I expect that the idea of racism should be a thing of the past? Maybe I'm just too naive and not nearly cynical enough? We should be kinder to one another, why can't we be?
 
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September 18, 2008, 8:14 am PDT

Children Do live what they learn

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I am 61 years ol, grew up in the suburbs of Los Angeles and never experienced racisim.  I wasn't taught it, I just never knew about it.  I learned about it when I married a militarty man and lived all over the place.  When I learned that a friend of mine from Florida would not get on a bus if the driver was black, it made me laugh.  I have never heard of anything so ridiculous.  Then my black neighbors told me what they had gone thorough when growing up, couldn't try on clothes they wanted to buy, etc.  I was mad.  I know my mind, and If I had been born black and lived in their area I would be dead.  Now I am a very proud and happy gramma of a black grandson and he considers himswelf black.  I try to teach him all I can about his history, try to keep him from going into the gangs (white or black or hispanic, asian).  I want him to carry himself with pride, be smart, make the right choices and tell him how it is.  He has a great sense of humor, manners, and he does not even think about "what" his friends are.  I see lots of people looking at him then looking at me and I know it is because he is so handsome, how could it possibly be anything else?

 

Children live what they learn.

This is so true. I see my mixed children growing and they will learn to show no discrimination. They deeply love both sides of their family and treat both equally. But what are you going to do when your grandson comes to you and he feels that someone treated him different because of his race? You cannot act as though it doesn't happen. You have to prepare yourself for that. You may tell him not to worry that he is a handsome young intelligent man. He will live that. and his character will be defined on how he reacts. But in this world it will happen. A black person may learn that his mother or father is white and think that he is not black enough. I personally would have nothing to do with that person again. But he has to decide to live on and not let ignorance hold him back. I am not saying that black people need to move on. But you have to decide are you going to let ignorant or racist people hold you back. I will teach my children to hold no hate in their heart for anyone but I know that they will Have to face racism in their lives.
 


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