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Topic : 02/13 Love Smart Island, Part 1

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Love is in the air, as Dr. Phil sends single men and women sailing to Love Smart Island to find Mr. and Ms. Right. First, Dr. Phil  surprises the successful and attractive women and introduces them to bachelors who are ready to settle down. As they spend three days dancing, picnicking and talking, will love connections be made? Find out why Dr. Phil has to make a special trip to the island to rescue two women, and what happens when the men get to choose one woman to spend the afternoon with. Also, meet three other bachelors who say their appearance is keeping them from finding a girlfriend. If you're unlucky in love, you'll learn how to take control of your love life and find the one you want by loving smart. Join the discussion.

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February 13, 2006, 9:02 pm PST

Love Smart Island

Dr. Phil like many of these messages I am a 41 year old who has the same issues...where is there representation of the women over 40?  I have an awesome career, great children and a very good life.  The dating scene is the pits!  Help us here in Texas!
 
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February 13, 2006, 9:04 pm PST

A note from the trenches...

Hi everyone!  This is Colleen from Monday's episode of Love Smart.  First of all, thanks so much for tuning in, this truely was a leap of faith and a unique experience for us and we're hoping everyone gets something from our goof-ups! 

  

I've read through some of the posts and I just wanted to add in my 2 cents since the show has aired.  I know many of you are unhappy there weren't more women in your demographic and felt that the group chosen wasn't a proper cross-section of women.  However, what I think everyone is missing is that the mistakes made on the show, are mistakes that can be made by people of all ages, and just b/c they were made by a 26 yr old, doesn't mean a 50 year old couldn't do the same thing.  I did this experiment so I could have a bird's eye view of myself in a social setting, and I wish more people could have the opportunity to do the same!  Sometimes, there are things we're not aware that we're doing, or signals we're not aware were giving off (or not giving off!).  This show was done to point out those things not only to us, but to those of you who might be doing the same thing.  It was about giving people a try, when otherwise we might have written them off.  I think all of you can do that easier than you think!  :) 

  

I didn't open up to Todd on the island b/c I was afraid of being vulnerable in front of the cameras.  It was a very surreal situation for all of us to be "dating" with a round eyeball of a lens in your face for 3 days, just remember that.  When he and I got back to real life, things were much easier, and I certainly didn't drop anymore flowers!!  (Which I've honestly never done before and wasn't intentional!) 

  

As for those of you who feel all of us girls on the show are "extremely picky, high-maintence, and don't have real lives", maybe Dr. Phil's chapter on being judgemental might be of help!  (Joke!) :)  I personally have a real life...one I'm very proud of.  Each of these girls do...one is a doctor, a lawyer, a singer.  They're all amazing and to think that they have nothing to do but sit around and pick men apart all day is rediculous.  Everyone has challenges in this crazy game of dating, at whatever age.  I personally am never approached by men, but, I hate being the chaser.  What's a girl to do?  :)  I'm old fashioned like that, and props to Todd for taking initiative!  BUT, obviously those of us with dating troubles might want to take a look outside the box to see if it COULD be something we're doing, not the other person.  I did.  If you think you don't want to change what you're doing, check out your current result and think of Dr. Phil saying, "How's that workin' for you?!" 

  

Thanks for watching and good luck with your "game!" 

 
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February 13, 2006, 9:50 pm PST

Regular Joes not so Regular

I think Marty is very nice looking, not an average Joe at all!  

I also agree with many of the other postings that ask for help with finding a mate when you are in your mid 40s. Did I make a fatal mistake by believing I'd be able to find love after investing first in raising my daughter? I was married for 12 years have been divorced for 14 years and in those 14 years I have lived a full and active life while raising my daughter. Now that I have the time to invest in a relationship with a man, I can't seem to find men who that are available and interested. Unlike some of the women on todays show, I am not extreemly picky but I do have standards. And what is the logic behind having to be a perfect size before you are ready to date? That is just not real life. 

 
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February 13, 2006, 10:32 pm PST

Colleen, give it a try

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Hi everyone!  This is Colleen from Monday's episode of Love Smart.  First of all, thanks so much for tuning in, this truely was a leap of faith and a unique experience for us and we're hoping everyone gets something from our goof-ups! 

  

I've read through some of the posts and I just wanted to add in my 2 cents since the show has aired.  I know many of you are unhappy there weren't more women in your demographic and felt that the group chosen wasn't a proper cross-section of women.  However, what I think everyone is missing is that the mistakes made on the show, are mistakes that can be made by people of all ages, and just b/c they were made by a 26 yr old, doesn't mean a 50 year old couldn't do the same thing.  I did this experiment so I could have a bird's eye view of myself in a social setting, and I wish more people could have the opportunity to do the same!  Sometimes, there are things we're not aware that we're doing, or signals we're not aware were giving off (or not giving off!).  This show was done to point out those things not only to us, but to those of you who might be doing the same thing.  It was about giving people a try, when otherwise we might have written them off.  I think all of you can do that easier than you think!  :) 

  

I didn't open up to Todd on the island b/c I was afraid of being vulnerable in front of the cameras.  It was a very surreal situation for all of us to be "dating" with a round eyeball of a lens in your face for 3 days, just remember that.  When he and I got back to real life, things were much easier, and I certainly didn't drop anymore flowers!!  (Which I've honestly never done before and wasn't intentional!) 

  

As for those of you who feel all of us girls on the show are "extremely picky, high-maintence, and don't have real lives", maybe Dr. Phil's chapter on being judgemental might be of help!  (Joke!) :)  I personally have a real life...one I'm very proud of.  Each of these girls do...one is a doctor, a lawyer, a singer.  They're all amazing and to think that they have nothing to do but sit around and pick men apart all day is rediculous.  Everyone has challenges in this crazy game of dating, at whatever age.  I personally am never approached by men, but, I hate being the chaser.  What's a girl to do?  :)  I'm old fashioned like that, and props to Todd for taking initiative!  BUT, obviously those of us with dating troubles might want to take a look outside the box to see if it COULD be something we're doing, not the other person.  I did.  If you think you don't want to change what you're doing, check out your current result and think of Dr. Phil saying, "How's that workin' for you?!" 

  

Thanks for watching and good luck with your "game!" 

Colleen says quote  'I personally am never approached by men, but, I hate being the chaser.  What's a girl to do?  :)  I'm old fashioned like that,'
Well Colleen all I can say was that I reached my mid 20s and was hardly ever 'approached by men'. I had a great social life, wasn't anywhere near as good looking as you, but seemed unable to find Mr Right. So I took the initiative and asked a guy out. He told me afterwards he was very flatterred and how could he refuse. That was August 1978, we celebrated our Silver Wedding Anniversary last year. So that's what a girl can do, I highly recommend it, we are in the 21st century and I'm sure you expect equality in the workplace. So try a bit of equality in the 'asking the guy outplace'.  Your alternative may well be carrying on being an old fashioned lonely girl. Give it a try, you have nothing to lose.
 
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February 13, 2006, 11:06 pm PST

IT'S NOT FAIR

I liked the show and I'm waiting for the show when you show a bunch of men and three women. With the women sitting on the front row as experts on how to catch and keep a  good woman.  That way I want feel so bad when I try to date a man who may think BABY I'M A HOT COMMODITY AND IF YOU DON'T WANT ME THERE ARE PLENTY OF WOMEN OUT THERE WHO WILL.  I wish women could say that.  I am a little embarrass for women to have to beg for help to find a good man.  It's not fair men don't have to do that. Women as the majority had to fight for equal rights, and women  as the majority has to compete for ONE man's attention or in the case of the show THREE men. I feel like the men laugh at women sometimes because we act so desparate.  I love your show but if I was one of the women I would have shut down, not because I don't think I'm good enough to compete, but because if  I'm HUNTING, I don't want it to FEEL like it.   It takes the romance away. I'm African American decent,  44,  never been married , have no kids, trying to find a job, used up my 401k  trying to complete a 4 yr degree in 7 yrs, and now have gained some weight.   Where are the men?  In jail, gay, married or on drugs.   Do you have a list of nursing homes?  Maybe I'll meet someone there. 
 
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February 14, 2006, 5:33 am PST

The shows age bracket was RIGHT!

With  all due respect to the older ladies, I think the shows age bracket was right. 

  

Most of you have stated that you were once married and had children.  Well I think the Love Smart Island show was designed to help us younger women (I'm 31) obtain that pleasure. 

  

Maybe the show should have clearly stated that it was designed to help younger women reach the goals of marriage and a family FOR THE FIRST TIME. 

  

Dating and trying to find "the one" is NOT always easier for TODAYS younger woman. 

  

This isn't the 1960's or 1970's when 90% of adults were married by the age of 25! 

  

There are women  my age freezing their eggs because they fear they will run out of time! 

  

You have re entered the dating game to find that a lot has changed, and you are right.  But just because we have grown up with these dating standards, that doesn't mean they aren't hard on us. 

  

You had some sort of chance and we are just trying to get to ours. 

  

But you are right. There should be a show to address your specific needs. 

 
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February 14, 2006, 6:27 am PST

Hi girls!

It's me again. On a complete fluke (Sunday's local paper had an article about online dating) I went to the Mojo site (I think there's one in every town and it's free) and only said I was curious about the site in my profile. I've gotten like 6 responses in 2 days. And I'm 52. I know some of you have tried and not been happy with it. Maybe if you change what you said in your profile it'd help. After reading all the posts I was worried that it'd be me. But I do believe that a positive attitude goes along way.  

 
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February 14, 2006, 6:29 am PST

Colleen that was very sweet of you!

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Hi everyone!  This is Colleen from Monday's episode of Love Smart.  First of all, thanks so much for tuning in, this truely was a leap of faith and a unique experience for us and we're hoping everyone gets something from our goof-ups! 

  

I've read through some of the posts and I just wanted to add in my 2 cents since the show has aired.  I know many of you are unhappy there weren't more women in your demographic and felt that the group chosen wasn't a proper cross-section of women.  However, what I think everyone is missing is that the mistakes made on the show, are mistakes that can be made by people of all ages, and just b/c they were made by a 26 yr old, doesn't mean a 50 year old couldn't do the same thing.  I did this experiment so I could have a bird's eye view of myself in a social setting, and I wish more people could have the opportunity to do the same!  Sometimes, there are things we're not aware that we're doing, or signals we're not aware were giving off (or not giving off!).  This show was done to point out those things not only to us, but to those of you who might be doing the same thing.  It was about giving people a try, when otherwise we might have written them off.  I think all of you can do that easier than you think!  :) 

  

I didn't open up to Todd on the island b/c I was afraid of being vulnerable in front of the cameras.  It was a very surreal situation for all of us to be "dating" with a round eyeball of a lens in your face for 3 days, just remember that.  When he and I got back to real life, things were much easier, and I certainly didn't drop anymore flowers!!  (Which I've honestly never done before and wasn't intentional!) 

  

As for those of you who feel all of us girls on the show are "extremely picky, high-maintence, and don't have real lives", maybe Dr. Phil's chapter on being judgemental might be of help!  (Joke!) :)  I personally have a real life...one I'm very proud of.  Each of these girls do...one is a doctor, a lawyer, a singer.  They're all amazing and to think that they have nothing to do but sit around and pick men apart all day is rediculous.  Everyone has challenges in this crazy game of dating, at whatever age.  I personally am never approached by men, but, I hate being the chaser.  What's a girl to do?  :)  I'm old fashioned like that, and props to Todd for taking initiative!  BUT, obviously those of us with dating troubles might want to take a look outside the box to see if it COULD be something we're doing, not the other person.  I did.  If you think you don't want to change what you're doing, check out your current result and think of Dr. Phil saying, "How's that workin' for you?!" 

  

Thanks for watching and good luck with your "game!" 

I was thinking how very not comfortable that must've been for you guys. You did great I think. And I love the guys that's interested in you. Good luck!
 
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February 14, 2006, 6:37 am PST

02/13 Love Smart Island, Part 1

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I really enjoyed the show today and I'm looking forward to watching tomorrow's show. I found out a little bit about myself today, things I have suspected but probably didn't want to face. I'm a 60 year old widow. I was happily married for 30 years, been alone for 8 years now. It took me a long time to get back out on the dating scene, it's been a real eye-opener in many ways.  

  

Now the problem...me...I'm the problem. I recognized myself today. I have so many walls up that no one can even begin to get passed them. I meet these really nice guys, we have a great time over coffee or lunch and then I never see them again because I just don't feel anything. It's not their fault, I just don't allow myself to feel anything. 

  

I don't know if watching my husband die a day at a time has anything to do with it or the fact that I fell in love with a man a few years ago who was really good with the physical but couldn't handle the emotional connection to me. It scared him and now everyone scares me. 

  

I do have one suggestion for all of you wondering where to go to meet someone. I joined every dance class I could find, while I have yet to master any of them...I have made some of the most wonderful and supportive friends anyone could ever hope for. I lost weight and gained confidence but most of all I have learned how to dance like nobody's watchin. I may be alone but people, I'm not lonely. 

  

Yes, I am frustrated because most of the men my age are looking at the young ones. Once in a while they get them. You would be surprised at how many men in their 50's are on the singles sites, divorced and raising children under the age of 10. Yep, they got just what they wanted and she left them with the kids. 

  

 Not ALL men in their 50s want to date twenty-somethings. I have male friends in that demographic who find young women boring, no matter how cute they are. Sure they are easy on the eyes ( I'm in my early 40s and have dated guys in their early 20s) but at the end of the day there just isn't that much to talk about due to the generation gap! I can understand the initial attraction, hey, I think young guys are adorable and sweet, but not for the long haul.....don't give up ladies!
 
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February 14, 2006, 6:49 am PST

02/13 Love Smart Island, Part 1

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I have concluded that there are no real men, the few that we occasionaly catch are indeed just playing men, they are truly clueless and Dr. Phil is clueless if he thinks that real men exist.

They do exist!  I swear they do exist, the only problem is that I'm either related to them or have contented, platonic, spark-free friendships with them. 

  

The best thing I can say about my lack-of-love life is that, as little as I've dated, I've never dated a jerk.  They didn't work out and we didn't always part on good terms, but they were never jerks.  I have no lasting complaints about any of them and I accept that I was at least equally responsible for anything that went wrong (mostly, we just didn't have enough in common).  I have guy friends, cousins, a brother, a dad, etc., who are genuinely great people and treat women like intelligent and interesting individuals.  They have great things to say about me so I know I'm not a total wash, if I can just get people to get to know me. 

  

I sort of feel like I'm in in limbo because in a lot of ways, my self-esteem is OK, it's my self-confidence that's on the skids.  I grew up in a family that treated girls like people first and foremost and I was never nagged about my weight, finding a boyfriend, etc., and thank God for that.  I always knew guys who genuinely liked me for who I was even if they weren't attracted to me.  On the other hand, I went through a miserable ugly-duckling adolescence and was extremely socially backward, and got teased horribly in school, and I've had a hard time getting over that.  It seems like such a stupid thing to complain about now.  So, I would never tolerate a guy who didn't treat me well, but I also tend to go immediately into "kid sister" mode, assuming that he's not going to be attracted to me, anyway, so I might as well save time and go right to the platonic friendship.  I know that this is my problem, but I don't know how to shut it off because I've had to use it so long to keep myself from feeling like a freak.  (I still feel like a freak, but it hurts less if I block it out.) 

  

 
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