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Topic : 09/06 Mr. Mooch

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Created on : Friday, February 10, 2006, 12:48:25 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/15/06) Dr. Phil talks to women who are the family breadwinners and are sick of living with freeloaders. Sarah says she's tired of supporting the man in her life -- and she's not even married to him yet! Her fiancé, Dan, worked just four weeks last year -- and only because he was ordered to by the courts. Sarah constantly begs him to get a job, has kicked him out three times, and says that if she doesn't hide her purse, he'll steal her money! Should she walk down the aisle with a man who wanted her to buy her own engagement ring? Then, Tricia makes three times as much as her husband, Glenn. She also does all the housework, takes care of their daughter and manages the finances -- after working a 12- to 16-hour day. Will Glenn ever step up to the plate? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

 

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September 7, 2006, 8:40 pm PDT

Mr. Mooch

Dan, you were unsuccessful in three alcohol rehabilitation programs and said they didn't work for you. News flash, Dan....the program is not supposed to work for you but YOU must work the program. Your unwillingness to work on your sobriety is just another indication that you have no ambition to do anything with your life that is positive. Get real, Dan! Do something good for yourself. It takes WORK, but everything good in life takes work. 

 
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chillin'
September 7, 2006, 9:47 pm PDT

well if she bought the ring it would make more scence for her to keep it and sell the thing dont you think?

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Exactly why should she keep the ring??

The ring is token of their agreement.. she gets the ring in exchange for her agreement to marry him..no agreement...ring goes back

When will getting something for nothing become wrong??

after all i bet she bought the ring, he admits he steals money from her!, why give it to him to sell and buy beer or liquor with the money from it, thats why exactly why she should keep the ring,the ring isnt a agreement token, its a symbol of his love that he pledges to her, thearfor if she bought it, it dosent have any real meaning from him!!! and with all the money he steals from her im sure she could ise the money she gets form it more than he can,whear do you see her getting  something for nothing? you talk like a moocher your self here look at your post man, he is the one taking for nothing not her!!!!!! open your eyeshe dosent have nor dose he want a job!!!!! she is the only one working !!!!! im hard of hearing and have bad eyesight but i saw and heard dr phil ask him why he didnt want to work,
 
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September 7, 2006, 9:52 pm PDT

yeah when you go in a womans purse without permission that is steeling.

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We need to realize if the Man is making the money in the household.. it is THEIR money.. unless HE wants a motorcycle..

It is fine for HER to clean out the accounts.. and to have a secret stash " just in case".. however MEN having a secret stash is viewed a stealing from the other spouse..

In the instance of a bedroom suite.. anything SHE wants is "for them" so it must be purchased and is totally justified.

Men have to clear the purchases before they happen .. women have to explain why they bought the stuff after it comes home.

And those are the rules....

sarahs man dosent even have a job did you even watch the show or are you just trying to take up for your fellow man,  that guy is a thief, he sat thear and said so, i heard him with my owne ears, your talking like a real jerk here buddy,
 
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September 8, 2006, 1:07 am PDT

Boy needs swift kick in BUTT

   This boy is like so many I have seen over the years and they all were in the rooms of AA where he needs to be. (Maybe?)

 

   AA produces the biggest amount of slackers I have ever seen and I happened to get a female counter part. And thoyugh she is gone now, and I woke up sebveral years ago like his "fiance" hopefully did on the show, I hopefuuly pray that shem sticks to her guns because that "boy" is a loser just like my X. Only she owes a vast amount of child support on top of it, which doesn't even account for the money she owes and will owe in civil court. And I hope this women takes him right there after is stuff is out of her house.

 

    Mooches are supposed mothers. too.

 
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September 8, 2006, 12:14 pm PDT

Welcome to the club

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 Hi I am new.....can't believe I just signed up because of this very reason.. My husband refuses to do anything extra or even just whats expected to help pay the bills and mortgage.  We just sold a wonderful home so he could afford his half in a smaller home, now he can't even afford $600.00. He has a job but chooses not to work much, wants out of his job, but doesn't try to find another. He wants me to support him and keep us afloat. I have had it and refuse to piss away what I have worked for most of my life because my 40 year old husband wants to sit around and watch tv.  I want to leave him but still trying to make it work. Can't believe I missed this show today!!!! Any one want to tell me to kick him in the A*!

I think we have a lot in common. My husband does exactly the same while I work 2 jobs 7 days a week! he will not take the overtime his boss is offering him (I do that all the time). We struggle financially becuase of his stupidity. He used to drive trucks across country and he lost his temper, driving the truck through the fence because he waited too long for the load. Not only he got terminated immediately, he missed his sign-in bonus by a month and no other trucking company will hire him. He has too many unpaid speeding tickets so his driving record is bad. Also he was in prison 21 years ago and the felony is another reason why some of the better companies will not hire him. i think this is not fair but besides the point is not an excuse not to try harder to find a better paying job than minimum wage. I work during the day at the corporate ofice as a secretary and wait tables at night. My tips are literally paying for food, electric and gas because my office job doesn't pay much. My husband can spend all evening on the couch watching tv or playing computer games and believe me, when I come back home late at night from the resturant with some good tips he is more tired than I am and of course grumpy, unloving and cold. Yes, I think about stepping out of my comfort zone and giving him an ultimatum but we have so many financial obligations that it scares me sometimes to be on my own. Technically I can make it on my own, I did it before as a single mom for 9 years. My husband never lived on his own, there was always someone taking care of him: prison, his Dad who died 5 years ago, his trailer trash ex-girlfirend who by the way was 20 years older than him(just thinking about her feels disguisting) and some of his friends with whom he lived in a past. He could not hold a job for more than 9 months after he left prison. No wonder his resume is extremely long. he will just sit there and complain that nobody wants to hire him. I tried to be more assertive with him and told him to get off the couch and do something but this only created alot of fights and frustration. Right now I just stepped back and realized that my priorities are my daughter and being the best i can be at my jobs. I have to live my life like he didn't exist. If his majesty decides to help with a household - great, I thank him for it and accept but never depend or count on him. Plan my finances like I was on my own, maybe one day he will realize that he is alienated and step up to the plate. I'm being quiet now and doing what I'm supposed to to - support our family, put the bread on the table and provide roof over our heads. I know that I cannot live like this for long, but when the day comes to draw the line I know I'll feel it in my heart.

All ladies supporting moocher husbands - I salute you (like in that rock song) :) Rock on girls! We are much smarter and stronger than those moochers we love. We can survive and bounce back from all trials. We are special kind of women - smart and courageous, never forget that.

Hard working Polish immigrant in Texas

 
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September 8, 2006, 12:26 pm PDT

09/06 Mr. Mooch

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I don't know if you have ever seen the show..."Dr. Phil"... have you???  if you have ONLY seen it once you would have known... RELATIONSHIPS ARE 100% 100% NOT 5050.. COME ON NOW GIRL!!

 

 

WHY IS EVERYONE SAYING 50\50???????

 

 

I know that.... BUT what I am saying.. is

 

If YOU both put in 50%. you are putting in half of what you can put into a relationship... HOWEVER  if you put in 100% you are putting all your efforts in the relationship.. 100%\100% not 50%\50%    do you follow?????

 

 

 
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September 9, 2006, 7:09 am PDT

09/06 Mr. Mooch

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I know that.... BUT what I am saying.. is

 

If YOU both put in 50%. you are putting in half of what you can put into a relationship... HOWEVER  if you put in 100% you are putting all your efforts in the relationship.. 100%\100% not 50%\50%    do you follow?????

 

 

I believe I heard Dr Phil say that it is 100% / 100%  -Both partners have to do their best in the relationship-

 

Also-to a previous person who posted very recently-Yes-you can have a healthy loving relationship if a partner has a disabilty-   It is a matter of adjustment- and the partner with a disabilty can do alot of things-just DIFFERENTLY than before-

 

You give your relationship 100% (both of you-not just one person-BOTH partners)

 

(I DO follow-you make sense-  As I said before-DP said the same thing-And he emphasizes the same in his books as well)

 

 
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September 9, 2006, 8:50 am PDT

Mr. Mooch

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   This boy is like so many I have seen over the years and they all were in the rooms of AA where he needs to be. (Maybe?)

 

   AA produces the biggest amount of slackers I have ever seen and I happened to get a female counter part. And thoyugh she is gone now, and I woke up sebveral years ago like his "fiance" hopefully did on the show, I hopefuuly pray that shem sticks to her guns because that "boy" is a loser just like my X. Only she owes a vast amount of child support on top of it, which doesn't even account for the money she owes and will owe in civil court. And I hope this women takes him right there after is stuff is out of her house.

 

    Mooches are supposed mothers. too.

There are two loser sides to this equation, but it's just easier to blame the moocher/alcoholic. Sarah is participating in the downfall of this boyfriend, and I would bet that he is not only alcoholic but very depressed. He deserves to get well, but that ain't gonna happen as long as she enables him and gets off on this martydom role she somehow equates with being in love. 
 
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September 9, 2006, 8:43 pm PDT

What about love?

 Sarah stated more than once that she loves Dan.  Funny I didn't hear Dan mention at all if he loves Sarah. I don't think it was every brought up how he really feels about her. The entire show I couldn't tell they were even a "couple." It seems painfully obvious that he is only around to have a place to live and when she does kick him out, he wouldn't care.  He will just move onto the next. 
Come on Sarah, watch the show and realize he does not love you!!!  Dan grow up! Sarah move on!!!
 
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September 11, 2006, 2:53 pm PDT

I knew Mr. Mooch too...

Just got back from vacation and watched this episode while ON vacation.   Boy oh boy did this hit home.  Approximately five years ago to the day, I too was with a "Mr. Mooch".  He held only a couple of jobs the entire time  we were together (all of which he was fired from), spent a summer in jail and basically sat around while I paid the bills.  He also took me for my money.  I bought him a motorcycle which he signed a promissory note for and I never received a dime.  I also found out that while I was out of work for surgery he ran up my credit card when he was supposed to be out buying groceries and my medicine.   He was also an alcoholic and there would be times when he wouldn't come home.  The last straw was when he left to go Christmas shopping and didn't return.  I changed the locks and haven't looked back.   I took him to small claims court for the money he owed me and was awarded a judgment, however, the loser has moved multiple times and has even left the state so I cannot find out where he works to garnish his wages. I've contacted many people search websites and none of them will provide employment information. I have always thought of myself as a very independent and intelligent woman.  This was truly a life lesson for me and an embarrassing one at that.  I will not let this happen again.
 
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