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Topic : 08/14 Trouble in the Spotlight

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Created on : Friday, February 10, 2006, 12:49:43 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/16/06) Every parent thinks his or her child is special, but these mothers are obsessed with making their child a star -- so much so, they're willing to sacrifice their marriages and divide their families. Kari and Bonnie are sisters who are at war because Bonnie encourages her 8-year-old daughter to wear make-up, false teeth and spray-on tans to compete in high-glitz beauty pageants. Kari says the pageants should be outlawed, and fears her niece will become prey for pedophiles. Will Bonnie learn to see Kari's point of view? Then, Ranel is convinced her daughter is the next Dakota Fanning and will stop at nothing to see her child's name in lights. Her husband, Charles, says she's neglecting their younger daughter and their marriage. Can they come to an agreement? And, a mother faces criticism and mockery for putting her 6-year-old son in beauty pageants. Is she making a mistake? Talk about the show here

 

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February 16, 2006, 5:13 pm PST

02/16 Trouble in the Spotlight

The Mothers are the ones addicted to their hobby ! Most pageant kids don't want to do the Modeling practice , the hair and make up room is Bawling Kids screaming not to pull their hair , These Mothers have these kids hair teased like an old lady , Why can't the Pageant Mothers see that Even Miss America or Miss USA doesn't wear that much Make up , Fake Teeth or Fake Hair . Nobody but Drag Queens use that much Hairspray and Make up !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

It's Something that should be looked into !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  

 
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February 16, 2006, 5:14 pm PST

Moms ... get a life!!!

The competitive nature of children's sports, pageants, events...is just unbelievable today. Everything that is important in relation to family and normal family relationships is given up today so that all of the parents can traipse around to event after event after event to watch their children perform like some circus animal...while event producers go home with the prize of all...   Parents' hard earned dollars!!! 

  

Parents have lost sight of what is important in life. What ever happened to teaching children to share, take a back seat to something or someone else, participate in family chores, ... when do you teach them values, morals, ethics...how to give service to needy people...etc.... 

  

INstead, the parents run from swim meet to swim meet, soccer field to soccer field, pageant to pageant, dance class to dance class...etc...etc.... Enough already...    LADY , YOUR KID ISN'T THAT SPECIAL.... GET A LIFE!!!!  GO HOME AND DO WHAT YOU ARE SUPPOSED TO DO...PROVIDE A LOVING, NURTURING ENVIRONMENT FOR YOUR WHOLE FAMILY. YOUR KID IS NOT GOING TO BE A BEAUTY QUEEN IN LATER LIFE. SHE IS GOING TO CUT HAIR IN A SALON..OR WORK IN A DOCTOR'S OFFICE, OR WORK AT STARBUCKS....   AND THERE IS NOTHING WRONG WITH THAT....   THE AGENT THING IS JUST A BUSINESS DESIGNED TO TAKE YOUR MONEY.   Don't be a sucker!! 

 
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February 16, 2006, 5:22 pm PST

Pagent/Gymnastics/Hockey/etc. etc. etc

It has been my experience that parental obsession with their childs success is a common parenting error. Exposing children to a variety of activites in order to find out what  they exhibit a talent and interest in is a good thing. Competitive sports can be good. It teaches a lot of life lessons including time management and committment. BUT, where many parents make an error is in living their ambitions through their children. This is unfair and it set the child up for failure. Only a few very talented people will be models, actors, olympians and professional hockey players. 

  

The maintenance of self esteem is essentional to life success. Find out what your kids are good at and celebrate the small things. 

  

 
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February 16, 2006, 5:23 pm PST

Truth Hurts

Quote From: jewelerboy

I wanted to chime in and tell you how right you are.. and hope you could introduce me to the lady they pictured at the top of this discussion board.. 

She looks so much like Lee Meriweather did when she was 30.. I hope I can get her phone number... 

Ha ha............. loved the sarcasm, yet then again it is eerily acurate - the comparison..........like the good Dr. said "creepy" 

cheers, from a fellow Canuck 

 
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February 16, 2006, 5:29 pm PST

WE NEED TO BRING BACK THE "DUNK'IN CHAIR" ??

Ya know what Dr. Phil, I am not any kind of authority on too many things but I do feel I have good common sense.  I agree with all the above comments and do agree with what you told the mom.  But........ I feel you didnt hit her hard enough with what she is doing to her marriage AND her youngest little girl.  How sad she looked.  The older girl is turning into a snot and the baby girl is just invisible.  What mom could do that to her little child?  Just think of all the bad things mom is setting her baby girl up for for a life time while she's so called setting up big sisters "possible but probably not" career.  I hope you REALLY continue after her tail about the baby.  That breaks my heart.  Another unwanted child!  What's wrong with some of these parents.  They seem to have lost oxygen to the brain somewhere along the road.  Hugs and more hugs to the parents who hug and kiss and say I love you to their children and all the other things that tell the kids that they dont have to be the best anything except themselves 'cause you love them for who they are! 

 
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February 16, 2006, 5:30 pm PST

Bonnie!!!

Bonnie...please start by apologizing to your sister, and then by giving her a HUGE hug, because she's only looking out for your daughter's safety!! Your sister may be many things, but she isn't a hypocrite - not in the way that YOU claim. I was stunned at your ridiculous reply - when you defended your position by calling your sister a hypocrite; instead of acknowledging the fact that she has a "good point" with regards to Jon Boni (sp). Sounds like you and your sister push your children in different arenas, but at least your sister isn't putting her child in a high risk situation for being molested and murdered. Remember - they still haven't found Jon Boni's murderer!! 

 
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February 16, 2006, 5:41 pm PST

02/16 Trouble in the Spotlight

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Gene and fred may have been great dancers.. but I am not sure if thier mothers dressed them up with boas etc.. and put them in pagents 

Billy elloitt might be a great movie to rent... hopefully brokeback mountain will be out  on video soon for him too 

I don't know about the movies but I do know that this is a little boy emphasis on little and I know that at certain age levels boys compete with girls. Now that being said I don't feel like she is going to turn her son gay. That has got to be one of the most ridiculous statements of all time. You know Patrick Swazey(sorry if I misspelled his name) was afraid to let people know that he was a dancer for fear that some might assume he was gay. Dirty dancing helped him with that. This child has quite a talent all the comments about him being gay just sounds like sour grapes to me. I wonder how many football games Fred and Gene played or were they too busy learning new dance steps.
 
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February 16, 2006, 6:10 pm PST

Where do these parents come from

I am so worried about these 2 families, both admitted they have other children that they are very literally IGNORING when these pagents come around. It's a very real possibility that these other children will get the idea that they are somehow not good enough, or will start resenting the excessive attention that the pagent/actor child commands. These moms need to start being moms and stop trying to live vicariously through one of their kids to the detriment of the rest of the family. I so applaud the husband that said "enough is enough"...you've got an agent and 6 months to prove that this is viable. He knows that the family has "real" business to do with...For example: a budget they have to live buy, education, raising kids who's ready to deal with society when they grow up and making sure that the family stays cohesive and strong. Doing that would probably relieve a lot of the tension that these couples seem to be under with this....
 
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February 16, 2006, 6:13 pm PST

Beautiful 8 year old Madison

 Madison is a very beautiful little girl. The real Madison that is.  The head shot pictures of  the fake Madison, of her smiling, without the showing of the fake teeth, are beautiful also, but she doesn't look like a child, well her head anyway. The fake Madison looks like a child with an adult head. The look is very disturbing to me....  

 Those fake teeth have got to go. Those things are scary.. Hey wait! Save them for Halloween. They would be perfect then.... 

 It  makes me sad when a mother teaches her child they aren't good enough. So very sad.. The real Madison has a natural beauty to be extremely proud of. I wouldn't change a thing. Her real smile is awsome and the gap is  beautiful. 

 
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February 16, 2006, 6:14 pm PST

02/16 Trouble in the Spotlight

Quote From: themommie

I am a service connected disabled veteran that works as a Disabled Veteran Outreach Program Specialist (Long name for a person) 

If the gender biasis were not broken I could not have been a Military Police officer and would not now be serving homeless and other disabled or with barrier to employment veterans something I love and gives me a far greater sense of purpose than when I was in the corporate world crunching numbers. 

I think you have a total focus on where I am coming from girls and boys should be allowed to do anything they want to and not be given derogitory nicknames like Tomboy or Girly man (thanks SNL). 

  

I appreciate all of the comments that are posted here because if you are not open to see other points of view than you will be stagnate.  How can a person make a honest defense of thier mores and values without havign at least listened to the opposing view. 

  

Oh and yes he is my cuttiepatootie but he was still my cutie patootie when I pick him up from school and have to remove a layer of dirt and remnates of his snack to even see his face :-)  And just as cutie patootie your and all the other kids out there are :-) 

I think you have a totally awesome son. He is talented and bright a true progeny. Maybe when he grows up he can be the next Gene Kelly. But whatever it is he chooses to do I am sure he will put 100 percent into it. He is a cutiepie. I don't see anything wrong with encouraging him to dance as their are many great male dancers out there. John Travolta, Patrick Swazey, Gregory Hines, not to mention all the great dancers on dancing with the stars and ballroom boot camp. Even Mickey Rooney was a great dancer. Don't let anyone discourage him he has far too much talent.
 
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