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Topic : 08/14 Trouble in the Spotlight

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Created on : Friday, February 10, 2006, 12:49:43 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/16/06) Every parent thinks his or her child is special, but these mothers are obsessed with making their child a star -- so much so, they're willing to sacrifice their marriages and divide their families. Kari and Bonnie are sisters who are at war because Bonnie encourages her 8-year-old daughter to wear make-up, false teeth and spray-on tans to compete in high-glitz beauty pageants. Kari says the pageants should be outlawed, and fears her niece will become prey for pedophiles. Will Bonnie learn to see Kari's point of view? Then, Ranel is convinced her daughter is the next Dakota Fanning and will stop at nothing to see her child's name in lights. Her husband, Charles, says she's neglecting their younger daughter and their marriage. Can they come to an agreement? And, a mother faces criticism and mockery for putting her 6-year-old son in beauty pageants. Is she making a mistake? Talk about the show here

 

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August 17, 2006, 5:58 am CDT

Jon Benet's murderer infatuated she was Pageant Queen

There is alot of Controversy over child pageants.

Hopefully as the Pageant Mothers read the headlines today of Jon Benet's murderer, they will begin to think past their driven force to create they're little girl into glamor and glitz.

Jon Benet's murderer quoted why he targeted her. "She was very pretty, a pageant queen, the school star" That should be enough of a wake up call to pageant mothers.

I think the mother's get so caught up in the competition, the drive to be the best, have the prettiest or most beautiful child, the money, neglecting husbands and their other children. I know of a mother who would do her daughter's homework each night so her daughter could be an ice skater. That is a competitive political sport too. It was obnoxious to listene to her and her daughter talk about the other girls and their mothers. Nasty things, hateful things and such jealousy filled the air. Iceskating was they're bonding time?  They get blindsighted by all the ticker tape and parading around and tropheys and ribbons.Bragging about how many competitions "They Won"  I don't think it is about scholarship money, if they have thousands to spend a year or month, they can put they're expense of 1000.00 dress outfits and 800.00 fake teeth, fake hair and fees, and hotel and travel expense away in college savings instead.  I still see no positive that comes out of these pageants, especially after reading the headlines today.   

 
August 17, 2006, 9:56 am CDT

08/14 Trouble in the Spotlight

Quote From: purplepain

Man I bet you feel weird huh!?!? I know I would! LOL

Now that an arrest has been made in this case I can't help but wonder once again, if her being in pageants didn't attract her murderer?

There has to be a middle of the road. You have some people who are to scared to even put a pic of their child online to share with friends and family, and then you have others who parade their kids like poodles.
Looks like it DID attract her murderer.  According to the news we are now getting anyway.

This is one of the possible (most horrific) outcomes of making a child into a sexual object and parading her in front of crouds and cameras.
 
August 17, 2006, 2:04 pm CDT

Are you your own person?

Quote From: themommie

The name calling was at the parent level much like the name calling and tourch burning here. 

 

Hunter has done Children's theater, took ballet for 3 years and 2 years of hip hop jazz also 3 years of Soccer and did T-ball 2 years and even though he is pretty dang good at T-ball he gets bored he would rather just hit a ball around in teh back yard.  But you wouldn't know that because you are baseing your advice on what a 5 min clip that was cut and pasted togeather in fact two of the sentances they played were words from several diffrent conversations.

 

Hunter has not done anymore pagents and in fact turned down calls for print work and commercail castings this summer cause it was all about our 'Wild Summer'  we feed girrafes, Swam with dolphins, had a slumber party with buluga whales and swam almost every day.

School is back in session now and Wed is Hunter's 7th birthday.  So Happy Birthday to my beast!

 

I don't like the fake stuff. I don't want my child being around the pageant stuff.  I made these decisions baised on our experiance not on what I am SUPPOSED to feel ecause it is the 'Societal view'  many of you new posters missed out in Feb of open and honest debate.


How odd that your user name is themommie.  I think this is the point some people are trying to make.  Parents seem to be living through their children and not creating a life of their own.

 

That said, people don't know you and I certainly don't judge you, I found myself curious by the username.

 

 

 
August 17, 2006, 2:09 pm CDT

Ok

Quote From: twinklova

I get really tired of hearing how bad beauty pageants are for little girls.  Unless you have put a child in a beauty pageant,  no has any room to talk.  My daughter has done pageants for 4 years now and loves them.  It taught her to have self confidence and taught her skills she can use later in life, such as how to present herself in an interview.  There are a lot more things to a pageant than just big hair and makeup.
Like what?
 
August 23, 2006, 11:59 am CDT

HI

Quote From: happytoday

How odd that your user name is themommie.  I think this is the point some people are trying to make.  Parents seem to be living through their children and not creating a life of their own.

 

That said, people don't know you and I certainly don't judge you, I found myself curious by the username.

 

 

I am not insulted by you post at all.  But as I was not supposed to be able to have children due to sever endometriosis and they thought I was misscarring Hunt and he hung in there I feel blessed to be a Mommie.  I did not have him till I was 33 and I can promise you I had lots of single life adventure and excitement as JUST ME :-) 

I guess I am a freak but I like being the Mom cause that is what defines a lot of me now I make decisions about life knowing that I do have a child that is dependant on me to help guide and nurture him. 

But we can have big adventure togeather too, Like Hunter getting bitten by a dolphin at his 7th birthday party this past weekend.

 

 

 
August 23, 2006, 12:11 pm CDT

Thanks

Quote From: skye12

 Thank you for posting.  It was nice to see an update.  Your son came across as talented and genuine on many levels.  Above all he looked like he was having a good time.  Happy birthday to him.  It sounds like he's having a wonderful life.   God bless. 

Thanks of course we now have more news as 4 days after my post at Hunter's Birthday Party he was bitten by a dolphin at SeaWorld.

 

We really want everyone that has heard the story to know this was NOT a malicious act by the dolphin he was just a young dolphin that had just finished an exciting and fun Trainer interaction and still wanted to play and Hunter happened to be the first to stick his hand out to pet him.

 

Dolphins bite eachother as part of their socializtion and they have conical (coneshaped and smooth) teeth so they can apply a lot of pressure without breaking the skin or anything like that.  The dolphin actually looked confused when we were leading Hutner away to the first aid station to get some ice after the trainer and camp counselor were able to get the dolphin's mouth open.

 

I think he was just as scared as Hutner since he had this what he thought was a friend screaming in his face.

 

Anyway Hunter is fine his hand barely even shows the marks now but most of all he wants to make sure that people do not think the dolphins are mean.

 

Hugs All

H&H

 
August 24, 2006, 6:20 am CDT

08/14 Trouble in the Spotlight

Quote From: themommie

Thanks of course we now have more news as 4 days after my post at Hunter's Birthday Party he was bitten by a dolphin at SeaWorld.

 

We really want everyone that has heard the story to know this was NOT a malicious act by the dolphin he was just a young dolphin that had just finished an exciting and fun Trainer interaction and still wanted to play and Hunter happened to be the first to stick his hand out to pet him.

 

Dolphins bite eachother as part of their socializtion and they have conical (coneshaped and smooth) teeth so they can apply a lot of pressure without breaking the skin or anything like that.  The dolphin actually looked confused when we were leading Hutner away to the first aid station to get some ice after the trainer and camp counselor were able to get the dolphin's mouth open.

 

I think he was just as scared as Hutner since he had this what he thought was a friend screaming in his face.

 

Anyway Hunter is fine his hand barely even shows the marks now but most of all he wants to make sure that people do not think the dolphins are mean.

 

Hugs All

H&H

It is good to hear all is well with your son. I think he is a very handsome young fellow and he seems to be very well adjusted. He is a credit to his mommy. Congratulations on raising such a fine young fellow and I wish you well.
 
September 27, 2006, 1:54 pm CDT

08/14 Trouble in the Spotlight

I'm actually confused on why someone putting their child in a beauty pagent is another person's business. As long as she checks her daughter when she seems to be too confident and snobby, her daughter should be fine. I see it as dressing up like a princess and I did this all the time when I was a kid. Nothing is wrong with it. It's fun, but i can see how  it be detrimental to a child growing into a decent human being. But that all depends on the parents. Maybe people should stop blaming how the pageants seem to portray the children and blame the parents who get out of control. It can be a fun experience as long as those involve are sane and reasonable individuals.
 
April 10, 2007, 7:39 pm CDT

children in pageants

 

 I'm a father of three and this type of pageant is for the parents only & every pervert in the world to see , the only thing that comes out of it is self pride for the parent , and abuse for the child .

 

 if  i had my way it would be against the law to  promote and hold one of these  exploit of children ,  to me its a form off pornography , sorry i cant right about this it hurts to much

 
August 11, 2007, 10:13 am CDT

My Opinion

 As a mother of 2 little girls, I am pro-pageant. I competed from the time I was 6 weeks old until I had my first daughter. I can honestly say, it never lowered my self esteem when I lost, I was never pursued by perverts, and I absolutely loved what I did. I made life long friends, learned discipline, self respect, and more than anything, confidence. My girls are now about to enter the pageant world for the first time, and I can say they are very young. They look at pictures of me, watch it on TV (Little Miss Sunshine, Little Beauties) and are enthralled. We've discussed you don't always win, and it isn't always fair, but you are still beautiful. They know people have different opinions on beauty, and basically majority wins. I was a hair extension flaunting, false teeth wearing, make up sporting girly girl, but I knew that was only at pageants and never for everyday use. To me it was dress up and show off. If I won I loved it, if I didn't I still loved it. I was never once forced, and I will never force my girls. When they want to stop, they can. They aren't doing it for me, they are doing it because they want. People view it as disgusting, but in reality, I see the same parents dress their little girls in small bikinis and take them to a public beach. I've had more perverted experiances there w/out make up or anything else than ever at a pageant or photo shoot. People should worry more about their neighbors and teachers and pageants.

 
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