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Topic : 07/31 Are You a Bitch?

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Created on : Friday, February 17, 2006, 03:00:33 pm
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(Original Air Date: 02/20/06) Meet three women who each admit to being a "bitch" and proud of it! Kristine, Teresa and Lois all say their demanding bitchiness gets them what they want when they want it. But Dr. Phil challenges their thinking. Is it really working for them? What is behind their bitchy bias, and would their lives change for the better with an attitude adjustment? Share your thoughts, join the discussion.

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February 21, 2006, 1:44 am PST

Yes, with problem

Quote From: lydiabow

I think the first woman and the last woman were just angry at the entire world and acted like bullies. 

  And the second woman was completely abusive to her husband.  If a man was on the show and talking to his wife the way she talked to her husband,  Dr. Phil would have read him the riot act.!  Of course, she is harming her children as well as her husband.  How can those children learn any respect for their father--or for themselves--  hearing their mother curse all the time  the way she does to their dad?  They must think they are the 

most worthless beings in this world belonging to him.   

I heard the father say that the only reason he is staying with this out of control woman is because of his kids.  I say, he should send a tape of this show to a lawyer and a judge, make sure he gets complete control of the children (she is NOT a fit mother) and leave her as soon as possible. 

The enviornment this nutty woman is creating for her family is abusive; not just bitichy.  And we all need to recognize that. 

You are likely right that he should throw her sorry butt out, take charge as a fulltime single dad and move on to raise those kids to a better life.

Sadly, due to the open pride of our society's hard work against the best interests of abused men, there arrises a problem: Abused men usually refuse to do anything, refuse to report the abuse, refuse to  protect themselves ....

Until we are willing to raise the status of abused men and their children to that of fellow human being we will continue to have children damaged and destroyed by abusive women.

I wrote on this in the early 1980's. The problem has gotten worse. One --among many-- of the reasons for the damage to chidlren can be seen in Dr. Phil's treatment of these women in comparison to abusive men.

With abusive men Dr. Phil gets right into their face; he calls them out. With abusive women Dr. Phil gets all nice with "how's that working for you." There is no calling out, no calling for them to be responsible, no charging them with the damage they do.

Therein lies the essential difference. With abusive men society gets tough, with abusive women society gets supportive. This is a great wrong which harms children as well as men.
 
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February 21, 2006, 3:31 am PST

Poor Things...

After seeing the Dr.Phil Show yesterday, I'm beginning to think that I'm a cupcake.  However, I do work in the service industry ( school and a full time job!). I've served people like Kristine all the time and you know what? You're right Dr.Phil! The cardinal rule is do not mess with people that serve your food ( unless you happen to enjoy the taste of phlem)  My co-workers and I deal with people like that with a belief that however miserable,  we are serving them for the short time- They must be miserable with themselves all the time!  People who are polite and patient  get the better service- period.   Nobody cares if someone like Kristine walks out ( actually we're a little bit happier that they leave and hope they never come back!)  Just remember (like Bob Dylan said) "everybody's got to serve somebody..." 

  

Carrie 

 
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February 21, 2006, 4:30 am PST

You're misguided

Quote From: bbries

 To be called a bitch ,.....Let's say thankyou 

 To me Bitch stands for: 

 B-babe  

 i-in 

 t-total 

 c-control of 

 h-herself 

  

  

To you, bitch stands for some positive things, to the rest of the English-speaking world it has negative connotations. When women proudly refer to themselves as "bitch", it's the same type of effect as an African-American proudly calling themselves the "N" word. It doesn't connote power, but rather a lack of self-respect and a lack of understanding about the origins of the word.
 
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February 21, 2006, 4:30 am PST

02/20 Are You a Bitch?

Quote From: pooh35

well.... Two of the three woman are me most of the time i hate all men except my father i dont like me at all right now i dont deserve anything nice that has happened to me god help me i just wanna die I nearly lost the man in my life 1 year 6 months and 1 day ago. You would think that moment when I found him in his truck YES I FOUND HIM I CAME UP THE ROAD SECONDS AFTER IT HAPPENED  that moment in time should have changed me for the better the only thing that did was i got more bitch in me how do i change to the real me of my younger self before my exhusband came into my life
Changing yourself is one of the hardest things to do. I have had quite a few bad and I mean BAD relationships in my life. What has helped me is to remember that my husband now is not the one that was awful to me and doesn't deserve to be treated as such. Everyone is an individual and deserves to be treated that way. 
 
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February 21, 2006, 4:40 am PST

02/20 Are You a Bitch?

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I was always told growing up life is a bitch, and then you grow up to  be one. then I had a daughter  and promised her she would grow up to be one. She's 14 now and someone can call her a bitch and turns around and says "thank you I know".

What a beautiful gift to give your child! You must be very proud...raising your daughter to refer to herself as a female dog. A word used by the rest of America to denigrate her as a female. She's got some long, hard, lonely  years ahead of her. 

  

Like I said in an earlier post...a woman who refers to herself as a bitch carries the same connotations as an African American who refers to him/herself as the "N" word. It does not imply power or a sense of positive self-regard, sorry.  

  

life is a bitch, and then you grow up to  be one. This is a bumper sticker, sweetie...not a message of wisdom. Please don't live your life by the bumper sticker mentality....I'm sure you are smarter than that! 

  

 
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February 21, 2006, 5:04 am PST

True Friendships

Quote From: ladybug11

they do

Hi there, sure lots of so called bitches seemingly have friends, yet I really think that true blue loyalties must be out of their scope.  Like the good Doc said bitchiness breeds passive aggression and more than likely they are drawn to those people that in all probability will stab them in the back. 

  

Just my opinion, take it or leave it.  

Have a good one  

'cheers', 

from north of the border 

Fredi 

 
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February 21, 2006, 5:06 am PST

True Friendships

Quote From: ladybug11

they do

Hi there, sure lots of so called bitches seemingly have friends, yet I really think that true blue loyalties must be out of their scope.  Like the good Doc said bitchiness breeds passive aggression and more than likely they are drawn to those people that in all probability will stab them in the back. 

  

Just my opinion, take it or leave it.  

Have a good one  

'cheers', 

from north of the border 

Fredi 

 
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February 21, 2006, 5:19 am PST

Very well said

Quote From: idealw8

Whether they’re buying at a local drug store or the ritziest downtown boutique, eating fast food, or at a five star restaurant, they are eating (touching, drinking) a LOT more than SNOT! If you don’t act like a HUMAN, you’re not going to get treated like one. 

  

  

Also, CUSTOMER SERVICE DOESN'T MEAN CUSTOMER'S SERVANTS! When you pay SOMEONE ELSE to do something you are too lazy, too busy, etc., to take care of yourself, you should be THANKFUL for any help. If you’re EVER being rude, unreasonable, arguing, demanding, unprepared, or even just calling or insisting on talking to the wrong department, YOU ARE INTERFERING WITH THAT PERSON'S JOB! 

  

  

If you’re LUCKY and the person you’re bullying is nice, you’ll get ignored, pitied, or hung up on. If you’re like most aggressive customers, YOU'RE GETTING LOST IN THE SYSTEM UNTIL IT'S TIME TO USE YOUR CREDIT RATING TO SCRUB TOILETS, or eating snot, or not getting that shoe in your size, or whatever service is being provided. 

 There is absolutely no reason to be rude or disrespectful to anyone to get what you want. You will get out of life what you put into it.  

I have worked in different jobs that work with people on different levels. The one I currently work in is an area that I worked in 10 years ago and have come back to because I can make people happy on the level that I enjoy. Other jobs it was mostly phones. Sure , I was nice to them on the phone and tried to be helpful but now I am able to smile at people and they can see me. They can really see for themselves that I am happy to make them happy. I have A LOT of elderly people come in and they love it when you smile at them and are compassionate with them. Well everybody does. If these B@%*h's would stop and try being a little sweeter then they would find how much more they would get. You don't have to be mean and nasty to keep from being taken advantage of. Caution and wisdom will help with that. 

 
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February 21, 2006, 5:25 am PST

It is the fault of editing???

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And tell me why you think I should change my mind?  Are you saying what was portrayed wasn't true?  If it's not, then I have to tell you it was a very good display of anger and self- righteousness.  Explain to me in detail where everything went wrong, explain to me what was taken out.

  

Indeed, I agree with this. Explain how we are viewing you incorrectly?  

Did we miss the tape that showed you apologizing to your family? Apologizing 

to the people you bullied? Maybe I stepped out of the room while that segment played? 

  

As I mentioned on another topic, there should not have been enough tape to  

'make you' look bad. Obviously you offered and / or exhibited these actions, and 

sure enough, they were shown on Dr. Phil.  

  

Ask yourself, if you are such the good person you claim to be, then why on 

earth would you have agreed to the show in the first place? Why was there 

even bad behavior which was tape worthy? 

  

Either it was all a put on for fifteen minutes of attention, or you truly do have a problem. 

  

We seem to think it's a little of both. You sat in the chair and pretty much declared yourself 

a big bad a**, subject to the scrutiny (judgment you say) of millions of viewers. If you 

are truly the new and improved, perhaps we will see you on the next show, working for 

charity, holding the door for the elderly, smiling once in a while, saying PLEASE and  

THANK YOU and leaving a worthwhile tip for the waitresses. 

  

A few crash courses in common courtesy would be of benefit.  

  

  

  

  

 
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February 21, 2006, 6:13 am PST

TV Sends the message that being a bitch works

I think reality television has spawned the bitchiness as a virtue culture.  Look at the Apprentice, Survivor, The Bachelor, and how awful these women act.  I can no longer tolerate watching these shows because of how awful they behave. 

  

 Being a diva is perceived as a good thing....so much so that they sell diva merchandise in the children's department!  And don't even get me started on those hideous Bratz doll.   

  

If you think the current generation of adult women are bitchiness, wait for the ones growing up.  They see this behavior reinforced on television everyday. 

 
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