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Topic : 02/21 More Wifestyles

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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 22, 2006, 6:33 am PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

Quote From: msismsis

YESS!!!!!!

I had to work to help make ends meet until my 4th child was 4 years old before becoming a Stay-at-Home Mom.  The job of a Stay-at-Home Mom is BY FAR the most difficult job.  AND....what surprised me was that as the kids got older, it didn't get easier, it got harder.  AND....even after the kids got married and had kids of their own, their needs (babysitting, grandparents day at school, etc.) still make great demands of my time and take me away from things like cleaning my house, preparing elaborate homemade meals and organizing closets.  The ONLY  time in my entire life that I was able to accomplish those things and have time to take classes to improve myself was when my husband provided me with a full time maid.   

  

I always tell people that I had as near to perfect childhood as was humanly possibly, and after watching this show I realize it was because my father....who came home for an hour or two between his two jobs each day....helped my (stay-at-home) mother tremendously.  Dad gave us breakfast each morning so Mom could sleep late.  Dad took us out on the weekends to run his errands so Mom could have a break.  And, that's only the tip of the iceberg of the things that Dad did to help out.  What Dad did to help my Mom was immeasurable....or perhaps it is measurable in more than 50 years of a successful marriage.  My Dad is a great role model...and all he wanted to do was be helpful. 

 
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February 22, 2006, 6:34 am PST

I feel sorry for both of them..

And the kids.  Making a life together is just that--making a life TOGETHER without one dictating to the other.  It seems to me that the first priority of any stay-at-home mom is to be the MOM.  Not to say that cooking, cleaining and laundry don't enter into it.  I am home with six kids.  We have a rotating chore chart for the kids.  It is totally my responsibility to cook and do the laundry, all of the running, the living room, keeping my bedroom clean and to wash all of the floors in the house.  The kids are responsible for their rooms, putting away laundry, and take turns in the kitchen, setting the table, loading the dishwasher, unloading, clearing the table, cleaning the counters and sweeping the floor.  On Saturday we clean as a family.  Is my house immaculate?  Nope.  Are we a happy family?  Most of the time, yes.  Also, I go to school full time.  We have taught our kids from an early age that everyone helps, and sometimes the chores are not divided equally.   

  

If having the house immaculate is something that Grant will not compromise on, he needs to either hire someone to make sure it is, do it himself, or rethink what he wants in a wife.  If he loves everything about his wife except how she keeps house, well then, he is going to need to compromise.  I have a sneaking suspicion that if the house were clean and straight all the time, he would find something else to be unhappy about.   

 
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February 22, 2006, 6:36 am PST

I loved this one

Quote From: tlmtezz

Grant, 

  

You could be right.   

  

RIGHT out of your mind 

RIGHT out of your bed 

RIGHT out of your home 

RIGHT out of your childrens lives 

  

SO DO YOU WANT TO BE RIGHT?? OR DO YOU WANT TO BE HAPPY?? 

  

The choice is yours MR. RIGHT 

  

Terry 

wonderful message, straight and to the point!!
 
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February 22, 2006, 6:38 am PST

Dr Phil is right

I think that Grant is a very selfish person.  I think that both of them need to start loving themselves before they can work on their own relationship.  I think that they should be going to counseling by themselves and together.  I think that they should go to flylady.net to learn to start loving themselves. 

 
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February 22, 2006, 6:38 am PST

Kelly, Come hang out at my house

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I think that Dr. Phil needs to send Kelly away for a week to be pampered and waited on hand and foot and let Grant see what it is really all about.  Running a house all by himself.  I bet he will come into line.  He has never had to do it so he thinks it should be a snap just because he says so.  Man is he WRONG.   

  

He may be an electrical engineer but look at him at times.  He looks as dumb as a box of rocks when it comes to real life.  If it didn't come out of a book he's lost.  He smiles like an idiot that is just clueless with a stupid look on his face.  He might score higher than her on a test but I bet she is way smarter than he is about things that really matter.   

  

Anyone else notice that she does not talk about him like he talks about her?   

  

Dr. Phil, please help Kelly go somewhere for a week to relax and get away from Grant.  And make him run the house and take care of the kid(s) all by himself with no help like she has to.   Then do a follow-up show and let us see him fall flat on his face where we all know he will.        

 

Kelly, 

  

You would be welcome in my guest room at any time.  Bring the kids or leave them with Grant for a weekend -- whatever you want.  I'm a stay-at-home mom with two little girls, and I cannot imagine having a husband like Grant!  You need a vacation! 

  

Dianna 

 
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February 22, 2006, 6:39 am PST

Grant and Kelly...again

  I want to start off by saying that Kelly needs to be commended.  She is obviously a devoted mother and wife to her "husband", Grant.  When Dr. Phil had Grant and Kelly on the first time, I thought that he was the biggest S.O.B. I had ever seen.  I am a  stay at home mom of three kids, ages 13, 5, and 3.  Nobody would understand what a day in the life of a stay at home mom was like, unless it was another stay at home mom or dad.  It's a hard job.  Not only are we a mom, but we are the maid, cook, nurse (or as my kids say, doctor), personal drivers, teacher,  referee,  and most importantly, we are the person that is there 24/7 for our kids and our significant others.  Sometimes our job is a thankless one.  My husband tells me all the time how much he appreciates what I do.  I know that he couldn't do it, and he does too.  I leave for a couple hours and when I return, the house looks like a tornado hit it.  They have no idea that the dishes are washable and that we have a hamper for dirty clothes.  I guess I call that job security.  I think that Kelly should pull a switcheroo on Grant.  Let  Her "grade" his meals and then when he's done with a day of running after the kids, cleaning the house, debating over window treatments, scrubbing toilets and bathtubs, arranging furniture and trying to find the perfect french maid outfit,   that's when she should demand sex.   That's what marriage is to Grant, isn't it?  I thought marriage was this wonderful thing.  The union that is so unbelievably great, that it compliments each of you and makes you feel the most important person to your husband/wife.  My husband tells me everyday how beautiful I am.  Even though I don't feel like it, and I complain of my "baby fat", he tells me I have a reason for that and they are sitting in the other room, he tells me he loves me anyway.  He is, to me, the ideal husband.  Maybe Grant should go for husband classes, or just Man classes, to teach him how to be a man.  A man loves his wife.  He supports his wife.  He tells his wife how beautiful she is.  A man helps his wife with the kids, the house, the supper.  A man sits down and has a tea party with his daughter.  A man tells his wife to sit down and relax so he can finish putting dishes away.  Grant may provide the income for "his" family, but that is all that he provides.  He should be ashamed of the way he treats his wife.  Kelly may love him, but I don't think that he will ever get to the point where he will accept the house for not being just so and the dinners being thrown together.  She is a beautiful woman that has been so obviously beaten down by Grant.  She should think more of herself and the kids and give Grant time to think, all alone.  Let him enjoy his own company and see how that works out for him.  Good Luck Kelly!! 

 
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February 22, 2006, 6:39 am PST

I think your concern if valid

Quote From: kimberlya

First of all thank you both very much for airing you issues for all to see. My husband and I share your conflicts.  And it was very helpful for us to hear your thoughts and Dr. Phil's.

We have been married for 6 years, and we would both like to have children. I am from a divorced home, I worry a great deal about have a secure environment to bring a child into. I wanted to know if Grants has trouble criticizing your child or is it just towards Kelly.  I'm worry that my husband would try to perfect our child, I can see that being a big problem.  My husband is well liked by all the children he meets. I have concerns that a child that can't please his or her Dad would be devastated emotional.

If you have a moment to share your thought with me about this I would greatly appreciate it.


 "I'm worry that my husband would try to perfect our child, I can see that being a big problem.  My husband is well liked by all the children he meets. I have concerns that a child that can't please his or her Dad would be devastated emotional. " 

  

A parent who isn't able to give praise to a child I imagine would be truamatizing to a child never mind the parent who is continually critical.  Actually if you look up people with eating disorders you'll see they often have parents that expect perfection from them.  :)  Eating is the area they can control etc. etc. etc.  It's detremental to a childs emotional development.   

  

As far as asking this couple I don't think they're in a position to counselor any one else because =they're so lost in their oun problems.  If you look at Grants comments here you'll see he doesn't even see himself AS the problem.  1 person on the show sided with him & this is what he hangs onto.  You want to get into counseling & no don't have children until you've ironed out all of these things.  Children deserve 2 parents that are living in the real world. 
 

 
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February 22, 2006, 6:39 am PST

What to do with men like this????

Good day to all!!  I watch the show yesterday with my husband.  He couldnt see what the problem was!!!!!!!!!!  Well DUH!  He is just like Grant.  I am a stay at home mom /  house wife.  I have 3 children to take care of.  One is school age so that makes it a little eaiser.  I, like Kelly, do all the cleaning and decorating.  But when ever I change something my husband will say it isnt my choice to change the house, since it is his house, since he pays the bills.  I say we are a couple and it is ours.  Plus I get child support for my oldest from my previous marriage and that goes to help with bills, food, etc.  Grant and my husband are very much alike.  They are both self centered, selfish, control freaks who only think of themself and not their wives or familys.  I know that Kelly must be feeling really unappreciated and unloved by Grant.  I feel this way on a day to day basis.  I spend my days getting the oldest to school, taking care of the two youngest, cooking, cleaning, etc.  I do all of this to make my husband happy.  If I did what I wanted to do everyday I would sit my butt on the couch or computer all day and let the house go tohell.  (Actually no I wouldnt because I take more pride in a clean house than being lazy).  Even after a long day for me (6am to 9pm) of mother and wive duties, I get nothing in return!  No "can I help you with anything?" "Can I give you a foot rub?" "Would you like me to run you a bubble bath, dear?"  I get the usual requests for sex!!  I have told my hubby time and time again that if he would actually put a 10% effort into helping me a little and a 15% appreciation instead of NONE, then maybe I would have more energy.  I agree with one other womans post on here........The sexyist thing to me is a man helping with chores, I wash you dry the dishes, I fold the laundry you put it in the bedrooms.  And for God's sake, please clean up after yourself!!!  Is it really that hard to pick up your dirty clothes and put them in the laundry basket that is 5 feet from where you tossed them in the first place????  Back to Kelly and Grant......(sorry was venting).....Grant you really need to appreciate your wife more.  As for you not wearing your wedding ring that is just down and out dirty.  Even though you may have some issues that need to be worked on in your marriage that doesnt give you any excuse to not wear your ring!!!  I have been married once before and even through our year of on again off again prolems I wore my ring as did my husband.  We were married and wanted it to work.  And I wear my ring now, even though my husband is a consided, controling butt!!!  Does it mean that if you arent wearing your ring, you arent married, or that you can pick up other women??  Just wondering what the justification of it all is.  I really would like to see a follow up with Kelly and Grant in a few months.  Just to see where they are going.  Maybe something will trigger in his tiny mind that he has a wonderful, caring, loving wife.  No one is perfect!!!!  But some of us women try to be perfect in our husband eyes but never live up to their standards.  Will these guys ever grow up?  Will tehy ever stop living in theri little dream world??  Why cant we just insert a disc into them and program them to be "good husband/fathers" like you can do with your computer??  Oh well, I guess I can dream cant I??????  Happy day to all of you and GOOD LUCK KELLY!!
 
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February 22, 2006, 6:44 am PST

Grant and Kelly

   I think Grant needs to review his idea of what being a wife is........A wife should not be described as agood organizer, cleaner, or childcare..To me the definition of wife is a woman who stands beside her husband through bad times, good times and all the times in between. A good wife supports her husband in his desires and dreams. She should help him achieve his goals and if he cant quite achieve his goals you still let him know he did the best he could and that is all she expects and that she is still there and still loves him.She should nudge him in the right direction if he strays from the path of his goal..If he gets discouraged then she should encourage him, I believe a strong man is only as strong as his mate..Like they say, "Behind every good man is a good woman . I would change that saying to " Beside every good man is a good woman." 

  By the way the same goes for husbandstyles.. 

 
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February 22, 2006, 6:46 am PST

tend to agree

Quote From: gallen

You draw some VERY interesting conclusions.
 I found myself thinking the same thing that you have just stated,.  There are signs and they are all there.  Frankly, Kelly could do hell of a lot better and mabey she should start thinking about all of this and see the signs for herself.
 
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