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Topic : 02/21 More Wifestyles

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Created on : Friday, February 17, 2006, 03:07:28 pm
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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 22, 2006, 1:23 pm PST

European Au Pair Tradition

I really like the european way of taking in a girl, an au pair for house hold help and child care. Raising a child ought to be done by a village and certainly not only by one mom and a mostly absent father. Au pair is a win-win situation with the mother getting help where she decides she needs it and the girl getting exposure to different ways of living and different cultures. I would hope this would free up a lot of time for the cultivation of an inner life and developing aspects other then being a parent.
 
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February 22, 2006, 1:23 pm PST

Agree

Quote From: lilbum79

I know that I have only been married for 2 years, but my husband is my partner; me equal!  I have to say that if he ever came to me with a list of 75 things that every wife must be able to do, I would cram it up his nose until he had to breath out of his ears! 

  

I am a High Priestess in a Pagan coven (Like the pastor in a Christian church).  I believe in balance!  I have to say that Grant is looking for a child parent relationship with his wife.  I know that I am not a Doctor, but I have to wonder why Grant feels that he is the one in charge in this relationship.  Kelly is an adult, and why does Grant feel that he is in charge of her?  He isn't her parent!  Then here is my kicker question... If Grant treats his wife this way, what are their children learning?  How will their children learn how to have healthy relationships and good self worth in a living environment like this? 

  

I will finish with this concept which I have used with one of the members of my coven.  If you cannot treat your partner in life as an equal, how do you expect anyone else to see you as an equal? 

Thank you for reading my rant! 

Nichole 

I think your post really tells the truth.  We are equals and it takes balance for things to work.  I think I would do the same thing to my husband if he gave me a list of things to do!  He respects me and that is  why he doesn't do things like that.  We have been married for five years and have been together for seven.   

  

You said you are a High Priestess, at which coven if I may ask?  My husband and I are Pagan and are raising our children Pagan as well.   

  

And, what are the children learning from Grant?  To disrespect women?  Not acceptable at all!  Children do hear and see what we do and they do learn from us.   I feel sorry for the children. 

 
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February 22, 2006, 1:24 pm PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

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cleaning the grey rubber seals in your refrigerator and dishwasher today? I read your post and I know you go to flylady.com which is a good website,but I had to go look in our refrigerator and dishwasher to try and find what you were talking about cleaning!!!!! It sounds like you aren't considering leaving Grant , so please continue to get counselling for yourself if he doesn't want to go. And if you need it, have a cleaning person come over while he is at work to help you.He doesn't even have to know about it. You are still young enough to have a second successful marriage. I don't know your age but your kids are 4 and under. Do you want it to be 20 years from now and still being treated like that from Grant.? The kids will be out of the house by then, unless God forbid you have another and that will just make it harder to keep up with his demands. Please get counselling for yourself. Only a very passive person would be in a relationship with someone so highly demanding. You have the disease to please. I would not be surprised if you had migraines or some other symptoms of living like this. I'm sure by now,you basically tune him out  and you will end up as roomates living in an uneasy truce just to endure being in the same house. If you aren't getting counselling,why not? When the kids get a little older. I think he will start making lists for them too and critiquing and judging everything they do. Nothing they do will measure up either. I guess you could stay together and get enough counselling to make a good decision and work together on that. But I would not be surprised if you did everything you could to please him and then he surprised you by finding another women that he thinks suits his level of "excellence"(ha ha) better. By then you will have sunk another 10 years of your life into this marriage and 10 more years of cleaning some wierd seals on your dishwasher!!!! Call a counselor today!!! You owe that much to your kids. The damage he will do to them will be worse because it will start during their developmental years. In some ways he is still like a child who thinks everything revolves around him .
I agree, I went to the flylady.com and it is a good site I guess but her cleaning down fall isnt every thing it is way deeper than that ...I cant believe how upset this show has made me I have never wrote to a messsage board this much...ever...I want to help her so much but she answered one of my postings and I honestly dont think she hears anything either.
 
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February 22, 2006, 1:27 pm PST

Me too

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Did I miss something because I dont  remeber anyone saying anything about his Mother....Was she this PERFECT WIFE?  Might explain alot!!!!!!!!!!!!!! 

 I've wondered about this myself. My husband is controlling but not like this. My husbands mother is a paranoid control freak, so I know why my husband is the way he is.
 
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February 22, 2006, 1:29 pm PST

Advice 4 Grant

 I clipped this from our newspaper(FDNM):  

     Hooray for Alaskans Girls!!! - Three men were sitting bragging about how they had given their new wives duties.  The first man married a woman from Tennessee & bragged he told his wife she was going to do all the dishes and house-cleaning. He said it took a couple of days, but on the third day, he came home to a clean house & the dishes were done. 

    The second man had married a woman from Florida.  He bragged that he had given his wife orders that she was to do all the cleaning, dishes, & the cooking. On the first day he didn't see any results, but the next day it was better. By the third day, his house was clean, the dishes were done & he had a huge dinner on the table. 

    The third man married a girl from Alaska.  He boasted that he told her her duties were to keep the house clean, dishes washed, driveway shoveled, laundry washed & hot meals on the table for every meal.  He said the first day he didn't see anything, the second day he didn't see anything but by the third day most of the swelling had gone down & he could see a little out of his left eye; enough to fix himself a bite to eat, load the dishwasher & telephone a guy to plow the snow. 

 Alaska girls! Ya gotta love'em! 

 

I think that Grant should feel very fortunate about the woman he married ;-)  It's hard for me to believe that he just ain't gettin it.  Women were not put on this earth to serve man hand & foot.  Him not to wear the ring...hes being totally disrespectful to his wife. I can't believe she has put up with it for so long.   

 

That's all for now... 

 

  

  

 
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February 22, 2006, 1:33 pm PST

GREAT QUOTE

Quote From: nowkev

Awesome job!!!  You hit it right on the head---do ya think he'll get it?
WISH I COULD HAVE SAID IT HALF AS WELL AS YOU DID!!!! :):):) GOOD JOB!!!
 
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February 22, 2006, 1:37 pm PST

Grant and Kelly

I was/am Kelly.  I found www.flylady.net and have changed my life.  I had no energy, chasing after 2 kids all day.  For me (from FlyLady) I have learned to have routines to get what I want done and play with the kids.  Have balance and a clean, organized and decluttered house.  And that it just doesn't happen overnight.  I just give myself 15 minutes at a time.  If you want peace, Kelly...try this!  I can do anything for 15 minutes and it's just little Baby Steps to get me where I want to go.  I am not born organized although I am (like Grant) anal and a perfectionist so it's been truly wonderful discovering that I'm not lazy.  I just didn't know HOW to do it!!  I have found that I have more time to enjoy my family.  I've joined FlyLady two times.  I got overwhelmed by the emails.  The last time I just deleted the things I didn't want to read (I didn't HAVE to read everything).  I've been Flying for 2 years and my house and my family are fabulous!!  Good luck to you both.  You can tell you both love each other.  Let go of the negative, CHOOSE TO BE HAPPY.   

For Grant...type this and keep it with you!!   

I choose to be happy.  Happiness is not dependent on my circumstances--it's a choice I make.  I look for the good in everything.  Although I may not see it now, there is a gift and a blessing in every situation.  The joy within me overflows into all areas of my life... 

 
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February 22, 2006, 1:40 pm PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

Quote From: gallen

You draw some VERY interesting conclusions.
Oops!  Grant not Greg.  Sorry about that.
 
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February 22, 2006, 1:47 pm PST

Totally agree

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I was hoping, beyond hope, that Grant had a "lightbulb moment" on his first visit to Dr. Phil. Obviously that didn't happen. Grant seems to be an intelligent human being - I just don't see how he can be so dumb about this. I don't believe that he "doesn't get it", I believe that he doesn't WANT to get it. Big difference!! I actually wanted to reach through the tv & smack Grant!! I can't stay on the "Grant" topic, because I'll get angry again, so moving on.... 

  

Kelley- Speak to Grant in terms that he understands. Tell him that his husbandly duties are just not meeting their expected potential. Give him quarterly reviews. Better yet.... give him a grade in the bedroom! He grades your dinners, grade his sexual abilities. He just might get "it" then! 

What a great idea to have Kelley grade Grant in the bedroom!  That would be an excellent way for him to get "it" right away.  Sure Kelley go ahead and dress sexier and get him in bed, then grade him, "hmm, I think that session might only be deserving of a C-."  What a good idea. 

 
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February 22, 2006, 1:50 pm PST

Real Life

I'm a stay-at-home mom and I've always considered that to mean I'm staying home to take care of the kids. The house could care less whether I'm here all day but my being here means a great deal to my kids. So my priority is kids first, house second. I still manage to get some cleaning done during the day and consider that a bonus to the child care I'm giving my kids.  

  

My husband and I have been married for 17 years and for the most part happy. We've found that the best way to choose things we both like is to choose them together. We do most of our shopping together. It's a great way to spend time together. We can talk during the drive and while shopping and end up with things that we both like. We've picked all of our furniture, dishes, curtains, paint, tile, etc. together. If either one of us doesn't like an item we don't buy it. We continue until we find something we both like so we have never ended up with kitchen curtains that one of us didn't like. We go grocery shopping together on weekends and choose items that we both want to eat. I currently do most of the cooking but during the first 10 years of our marriage we usually cooked together. It was a great way to spend time together, share our day and prepare a meal that we both liked. If it turned out we both did it, if it didn't turn out we both did it! We could talk about whether we wanted to try cooking that meal again or whether we'd never try it again. (We moved and he commutes further so I now cook dinner by myself.) We still clean up the table and load the dishwasher together. We also share other tasks. When painting a room, I mask the room and then my husband paints. I'm picking about the masking and insist that it be done to my standards and so I do it myself. I pick up limbs in the yard and take care of the flowers while my husband mows. I scoop most of the snow off the deck. He does routine car maintenance. We both appreciate what the other does. 

  

I've learned that getting help means allowing your partner to do things their way. I sort the silverware into the dishwasher so that all of the teaspoons are together, etc. My husband mixes them all together. I don't say anything because that is just the way he does it. My husband sometimes folds laundry and he doesn't fold t-shirts the way that I do. I don't say anything because that's the way he does it. When putting away clean dishes my husband will stack a two-quart sauce pan on top of a one-quart sauce pan. I assumed he would find out that they fall over when you do that but I discovered that they don't usually fall over when stacked that way. I could insist that things be done my way but then I'd have to do them all by myself and I'd rather have the help. I think that if you can't stand it if something isn't done your way then you should do it. If you can live with differences then your spouse can share the job.  

  

  

  

  

 
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