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Topic : 02/21 More Wifestyles

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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 21, 2006, 9:27 am PST

I agree...

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Grant should switch roles with his wife.  Kelly should go somewhere for a week or two and let him do everything in the house so he can see how difficult it is, especially when his standards are so out of this world.  Just because she is a wife, a woman, does not mean that her only role in life, the only thing she should aspire to and be excellent at, is his stupid list.  If all he wants is a woman to clean, cook, decorate, then he should hire it done, divorce his wife so she can find someone who will really, truely love her (cause this guy doesn't).  If I were in her position I would have divorced the sob a long time ago. 
 A professional maid service, meals at restaurants, and a twice a week whore are much less expensive than the average wife -- and much, much less time, trouble, and hassle IMO.

 

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February 21, 2006, 9:28 am PST

He'll never be satisfied

Here's my two cents, and if I'm repeated anything,  I apologize in  advance.  I was only able to skim thru the message board as I'm at work on my break. 

To start, I have questions for Grant & Kelly:  why did you get married in the first place?  Is this kind of a parent/child relationship?  Did you two live together before getting married, & if not do you think you still would have married after finding out what living together was going to be like? 

  

That being said, I really don't think Grant will ever be satisfied no matter who his wife is-it could be June Cleaver & he'd find faults.  I agree w/Dr. Phil who thinks Grant is trying to control his environment because he has emotions or conflicts or some kind of inner chaos he can't deal with, so by demanding order and perfection from his wife this makes him feel like he does have control.  I read some of Grants remarks here, and he seems extremely defensive , basically saying he is trying to prevent all sorts of social ills by resorting back to a way of life (as in the 50's) where it seemed there were no problems like teen drug use, violent crimes, etc.  Well, Grant, the best way to have healthy kids who love & respect you and go on to become successful people is to set a good example and to spend time with them to let them know they are loved and to feel secure.  Right now the example you are setting for your kids is that nothing they ever do will be good enough for you-you can't appreciate your wife, you base your love for her on how well she performs "wifely tasks."  Love for children is unconditional-barring extreme circumstances, they need to know you love them no matter what.  Will they feel that with you?  Or will you find a way to let them know that you will disown them in the way you have with Kelly by not wearing your wedding ring?  I actually pity you-something has happened in your life that has shown you acceptance and love is a function of performance.  Let me tell you, if that were true, my cooking would have scared away my fiance a long time ago!  Nothing is better than seeing the towel on the bathroom floor for the umpteenth time and realizing that not only is not a big enough deal to start an argument about, but if that is to be one of my biggest complaints about my man, than I am truly lucky.  One word of advice-relax.  Another thing you need to realize statistics are just that-each person and family are different.   You can't appraoch your wife and kids as you do your job.  There are no right and wrong answers, you can't plug everything into a neat equation and produce the correct answer.  If life were like that it may be "perfect" but certainly boring.     

 
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February 21, 2006, 9:31 am PST

modern marriage

I have to say that I am surprised, in a way, at how much debate has occurred over this topic.  It is the year 2006... marriage has changed a lot, as have the roles of men and women in marriages.  A woman can choose a career outside of the home or choose a career as a homemaker... a homemaker, however, is not synonymous with slave!  I know women (and men) who prefer to manage the entire household and the children on their own, while their husbands (or wives) have a career outside of the home... this is a respectable CHOICE, not an innate DUTY!!!!  Women have worked their tails off so that other women can make these choices for themselves.

As a women on the path to a competitive career, and who is married, manages many aspects of a household, doing graduate school, research, extra curricular activities, social activities, etc., I have to say that we all have to define FOR OURSELVES what we want from life and a marriage (if we choose to be married), and decide how to manage ourselves to accomplish our goals.  PERSONALLY, I would never have married someone who couldn't respect me as a human being and an EQUAL PARTNER.  My husband and I share household duties as much as possible (he travels, so our duties shift day to day).  We support one another in our life and career choices, and also regard one another very highly.  My husband is my rock, and I adore and respect him and need him, even though he may not be my priority every minute of every day.  Marriage takes a lot of work sometimes; "sharing duties" and pleasing one another are not always cut and dry, but at the end of the day, I have a husband who respects me as a woman, as a person, as a professional, and as a wife, and he has a wife who reciprocates all of that.   I don't know how I  would manage the other aspects of my life without his love and support. 

Regarding today's show, I want to say that I think Grant had a lot of courage to return to the show, and to be honest about his perspectives.  And frankly, there may be women out there who would choose the type of lifestyle that he has in mind for his wife.  But Kelly seems to be happy enough with life (with the exception of the expectations of her husband) without worrying about whether or not the house is in perfect order or what type of window treatments are where.  She seems to be a dedicated, happy mother, and I think she is to be commended.  In our society today, it is CLEAR that parenting is a large problem, in that the job is not getting done.  Grant should be pleased that his wife is investing in their children's futures by providing care and support while they are young.  If cleanliness and order are so important, perhaps they could hire a cleaning service to assist in those duties.  Hire an interior decorator if the motif of the home must be a priority.  Or, Grant could figure out how to take care of those things himself.  I hold a degree in engineering, and I comprehend how logic, practicality, efficiency, etc. can sometimes conflict with "personal" issues, but we have to own that and balance the things that are truly important!  I really hope he can find a way to reach out and really love his wife for who she is.  Perhaps if he could spend some time admiring all of the wonderful things about her, he would be less inclined to nit-pick as he does.

   
 
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February 21, 2006, 9:31 am PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

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Grant should switch roles with his wife.  Kelly should go somewhere for a week or two and let him do everything in the house so he can see how difficult it is, especially when his standards are so out of this world.  Just because she is a wife, a woman, does not mean that her only role in life, the only thing she should aspire to and be excellent at, is his stupid list.  If all he wants is a woman to clean, cook, decorate, then he should hire it done, divorce his wife so she can find someone who will really, truely love her (cause this guy doesn't).  If I were in her position I would have divorced the sob a long time ago. 
I agree that Grant should try this.  I know that he may last a week  but longer than that he would start  to freak. 
 
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February 21, 2006, 9:37 am PST

How Dare him

I'm surprised he doesn't ask to have his bottom wiped after using the restroom. Would that be chore 76?  

  

If Gary wishes all he requires it's easy, he should just provide a household budget of about 330k per year, he can then hire the household work done, the yard work, not to mention full time governess and cook. Of course he would have to quit working so he could do all the supervision it would take to have that many employees. What the hell is he thinking?  The other option would for him to have is own apartment and keep it up to his standards,  however someone from the Dr. Phil show would have to "inspect" his work every day. What a spoiled brat he turned out to be.  

  

One wonders what is performance on his job is.  He certainly doesn't do his job at home. 

  

  

 
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February 21, 2006, 9:39 am PST

Get over it Grant!

I am a mother of two and my husband and I have only been married for close to 4 years.  We are very young and don't know a lot about marriage but I sure appreciate him more after watching this show.  Sure we have had our battles but he has never made me feel this way.  I used to stay at home and with our daughter I didnt get much done and now that I am a Nanny to a family and dont get home until 6 things almost never get done.  Instead of fussing about it, my husband pitches in and helps me.  Some family was over last night and commended him b/c after the kids were finished playing in my daughters room he casually walked in there and cleaned up the mess.  Having said that, I believe that if you stay at home or work full-time the duties are equal.  If you stay at home and have the chance to do things then do it but dont stress over it.  I sure wouldnt let a man degrade me b/c God didnt bless me with the cooking skills he expected.  Oh well!  Marriage is hard but it takes two just like most things!
 
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February 21, 2006, 9:45 am PST

Grant

Grant needs to be councelled as to what marriage is all about!  My main job in our marriage is to make my husband happy and do my "jobs" as well as time permits.  This has worked for 501/2 years.  I've found if he's happy, he in turn makes me happy.  The "I love you's" are many every day. 

  

My son said his understanding of a wife was to be a companion to him and love him.  They've been married 27 years. 

  

I really hope Grant wakes up before his marriage ends.  He will find that his wife will change right along with him.  Good luck, Grant! 

 
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February 21, 2006, 9:47 am PST

GRANT DOESN'T HAVE A CLUE...THE GIFTS HE HAS.

  MY HEART GOES OUT TO KELLY.   GRANT IS CLUELESS WHEN IT COMES TO SEEING THE GIFTS HE HAS IN HIS LIFE.  GRANT, INSTEAD OF PICKING ON THOSE THINGS "YOU" THINK YOUR WIFE IS NOT PERFECT ABOUT .... FOCUS ON THOSE BEAUTIFUL KIDS YOU HAVE!!!   PLAY AND WRESTLE WITH THEM FOR A WHILE...THAT WILL TIRE YOUR  MIND OUT A BIT!!  :))  YOU HAVE A BEAUTIFUL WIFE, HEALTHY KIDS... FOCUS ON THE THINGS YOU DO HAVE, AND NOT WHAT YOU "DON'T SEEM TO HAVE", AND HAPPINESS WILL BE YOURS.  WHEN IT COMES TO BEING A HOMEMAKER, SPILLS, MISHAPS, AND GAME PLAYING TAKE PRIORITY OVER HOW CLEAN THE KITCHEN FLOOR IS.  I'D GET DOWN ON MY KNEES TO POLISH THE FURNITURE...AND MY KIDS WOULD BE JUMPING ON MY BACK LIKE I'M A JUNGLE GYM!!!  LIFE CAN'T BE SCRIPTED OUT.  PUT THAT RING BACK ON YOUR FINGER TO SHOW EVERYONE ..."YOU" HAVE COMMITMENT TO YOUR FAMILY GRANT.   KELLY, YOU ALSO NEED TO STAND UP FOR YOURSELF.  I TOLD MY HUSBAND LONG AGO, IF YOU DON'T WANT ME COMING INTO YOUR OFFICE TO JUDGE YOU ON YOUR JOB PERFORMANCE, DON'T COME HOME AND START IN ON MY JOB.  IT'S OBVIOUS, GRANT NEEDS TO TAKE ON HOUSEHOLD CHORES TOO.  GRANT SHOULD BE CLEANING THE CARS, AND MOWING THE LAWN.  GRANT WILL FIND OUT...WITH COMPLIMENTS AND LESS CRITIQUING...COMES MORE INTIMACY, HUGS, AND KISSES FROM HIS WHOLE FAMILY, ALL HIS NEGATIVITY CAN NOT BE GOOD FOR THE KIDS EARS.  TAKE THE FAMILY SLEDING, RENT A FUN KIDS MOVIE THE WHOLE FAMILY CAN WATCH.... ENJOY LIFE GRANT!  YOUR KIDS AREN'T YOUNG FOREVER, AND NEITHER ARE YOU!!  TAKE CARE... I HOPE THE BEST FOR YOUR FAMILY KELLY and  GRANT.  :) 

 
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February 21, 2006, 9:50 am PST

Grant and Kelly

  

Did I miss it?  What is Grant's background?  Where did he get such bizarre notions that  he thinks his wife should be his servant, that he should be her dictator, god, judge??!!!!!  

--What kind of damage is he doing, not only to her, but to their children?  If he worked half as hard on himself as he does on correcting her faults, his marriage to Kelly would be greatly improved. 

Kelly gives new meaning to the word "longsuffering."  She would do well to dump him.  Then, all other women should be forewarned about him. 

  

 
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February 21, 2006, 9:51 am PST

Wow. Just a dumbfounded "Wow."

I don't know about the rest of you, but between the "little angels" from yesterday and this piece of work today, I know that my hubby and I have had the best. . . we'll call it "time together" in a long time.  Neither one of us has ever been more thankful for the other than we have been watching the past two shows.  I, too, had a relationship at one time with an Electrical Engineer.  I allowed it to last all of 8 months.  I came to realize that there would never, ever be a way to fully satisfy his desperate need to dictate and criticize absolutely everything I did, said, wore, etc.  Kelly, Kelly, Kelly, for the sake of your own self-preservation and for the sake of your darling babies, please rethink the situation and get out.  It will never improve because he truly doesn't think there's anything wrong with thinking about what a wife "ought" to know or do. 
 
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