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Topic : 02/21 More Wifestyles

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Created on : Friday, February 17, 2006, 03:07:28 pm
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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 23, 2006, 11:47 am PST

Congratulations for not being ashamed of wanting to be better

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In todays society, a woman who asks for help in trying to better herself at home seems to be looked down upon.  I applaud you for that.  I was not very organized when I was first married.  My mom was a pile mover.  Piles would move from one spot to another without finding a home.  My best friend is an amazing woman.  More organized than I have ever seen.  I asked her for help.  Literally had her come over one day a week and we organized one room each day.  Do you have someone around you that might be able to help you?  Good luck. 
 
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February 23, 2006, 11:48 am PST

Mom vs. Housekeeper

I did not see the original show, though I'm sure I would have been sreaming at the screen then, too.  Through the entire show, I did not see anyone point out that there actually is a difference between stay at home MOM versus HOUSEKEEPER.  When they both worked outside the home, did they share the household responsibilites or was she expected to work all day outside the home AND do everything inside the home, too?  Gee, we'd all like to have Alice from the Brady Bunch living with us.   Would Grant still feel the way he does if she worked outside the home (for a paying job), while someone else raised his kids?  Would Kelly be required to do all the housework at night under those circumstances? 

  

I've been a stay at home MOM for 14 years.  We have 2 girls, 18months apart who are currently  12 and 14.   I guess I feel that I need to point out here, that with young children, it's virtually impossible to get a shower everyday, let alone a complete a LIST of chores during the day.  Having said that, I can tell you that it does change as the kids get older.  Once they are in school, it's certainly easier to schedule the day to get the things done that require your full attention.  For example, Kelly told an incident about when she was cleaning the bathroom instead of watching their son, who subsequently was found outside naked.  How would Grant have felt about the importance of a clean toilet if their child was hit by a car because Kelly's focus was trying to get his list done? 

  

I do almost everything pertaining to the house, now - including the lawn.  When the kids were younger, I just couldn't.  There isn't enough time in the day to keep the kids safe AND do all the other stuff.  It comes down to priorities.  Does Grant want a clean house or a happy wife?  In 25 years, will it matter to his kids that the house was spotless or that their Mom was happy and contented with her life? 

  

Maybe Kelly should go to his office one day and follow him around telling him how much he sucks at his job.  He's doing the same thing. 

  

Being Mom is not only the hardest job in the world, we do it for no pay, no vacation, whether we're sick or not, and the whole purpose is to work ourselves into obsolescence. 

  

Noelle 

  

  

 
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February 23, 2006, 11:52 am PST

And furthermore....

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Are the only real changes you've made so far that a) you don't say what you think as often and b) you're lightening up on Kelly by staying away from her through your hobbies in the hope that she'll do better if you aren't harping at her?    

  

If this is correct, aren't these changes better than the way things before. From a "What is the net result, bottom line" perspective, isn't this an improvement? 

I'm assuming (which I hate to do) by what you chose to respond to that these are changes you've made and that you want, if not kudos, at least acknowledgement that you're making an effort to change.  But aren't you selling yourself a little short?  Better?  Who settles for better?  Don't you want the problems fixed?    Seriously, Grant.  Look at what you chose out of my post to comment on.  Are you taking a short cut and trying to settle for a quick fix, like covering a festering sore with a bandaid and hoping the infection doesn't spread?  Because trust me, now that kids are involved this is a sore that you're going to be dealing with for the rest of your life and you don't strike me as being a quitter. 
 
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February 23, 2006, 12:13 pm PST

Kudos Amyjo

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In todays society, a woman who asks for help in trying to better herself at home seems to be looked down upon.  I applaud you for that.  I was not very organized when I was first married.  My mom was a pile mover.  Piles would move from one spot to another without finding a home.  My best friend is an amazing woman.  More organized than I have ever seen.  I asked her for help.  Literally had her come over one day a week and we organized one room each day.  Do you have someone around you that might be able to help you?  Good luck. 

We should not be looked down upon for trying to find ways to better ourselves at home. I agree 100%. 

  

Thank you for saying it. 

 
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February 23, 2006, 12:14 pm PST

Grant and his tasks

If Grant wants to see his wife's contribution to the family as a task list with himself as the program manager, he needs to take it to the next step and actually come up with a program plan that includes the tasks he sees as important. If he actually tried to make a schedule for Kelly with his list during whatever hours he thinks her "work day" should be, I think he'll find it isn't possible. His list is unrealistic. He needs to do what all program managers have to do -- look at the big picture and set priorities. Maybe by doing this he can see what a reasonable set of tasks and schedule might be and he and Kelly can agree on something achievable. This may take some pressure from Kelly too. She'll be able to use a daily/weekly schedule to balance the housework and time with the kids, feel a sense of accomplishment and not feel as overwhelmed by things she doesn't enjoy as much because the time she needs to spend on them will be limited. 

 
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February 23, 2006, 12:15 pm PST

Defining Spousal Traits

In my opinion, a spouse (regardless of if they are a husband or a wife) should support each other. My husband takes care of me and I take care of him, doesn't matter what that means, and it really doesn't mean housework. Instead of calling someone a "wife", maybe they should be called a helpmate or a lifepartner, as it would better define the position? My husband and I both work full-time, so we split the chores early in our relationship. I dust, he vaccuums; I cook, he cleans the dinner dishes; I do my laundry, he does his, and we both do the sheets and towels. We've been together 14 years now, and married for over 10 of them. We're truly partners in every sense of the word. Balance is a good thing!
 
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February 23, 2006, 12:15 pm PST

Thanks

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You are sooo cool and SO right!  I loved your responses.  I guess my point in putting this out there is that the more things change the more they stay the same.  And, oh by the way, there is absolutely nothing wrong with the suggestions above as long as there is mutual respect, caring, understanding and agreement.  (I just didn't like that one thing about the guy staying out all night and don't question him.)  BTW, I worked for three and a half years while my husband stayed home.  I wish he had done some of the above for me.  Oh well.  Still, I loved your responses!  I love your sense of humor!
 
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February 23, 2006, 12:15 pm PST

Exausted Moms

We had a neighbor who had twins. Her Mom helped her a lot but she was so exhausted . Then when she got pregnant again, she was so worried she might have twins again that she got her ultrasound so she'd have plenty of time to plan. She was relieved it was only one child.Maybe Grant's hobbies are a creative solution for now . Our neighbor here has 3 kids under 4. They always take a walk together after supper when the weather is good. She also has a high school or college student over almost everyday in the afternoon.
 
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February 23, 2006, 12:24 pm PST

Couldn't agree more

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I think people should get a new view of their marriages.  Marriage should be 100%/100%.  There are not certain things men are responsible for and certain things women are responsible for.  (except bearing children!)  My husband and I each take responsiblity for the household chores and outdoor duties (where I'm able).  Now, he knows that I am not that physically able to chop wood - so he usually does that.  Not once has he complained about washing dishes, cleaning bathrooms, giving kids baths, etc.  On the other side of that, I cut grass when needed, trim bushes, etc.   

My husband kept my first 2 children until my 2nd one was 2 years old.  He took them to work with him.  They developed such a loving relationship with their daddy.  We just had our 3rd child a month ago and while he's not able to take them to work with him anymore, he takes a huge responsibility over the children when he's home.  He changes diapers, gives baths, does ponytails, and many more things.   

It makes me sad to watch the Dr. Phil show and see so many unhappy marriages.  I have the best husband in the world and wish that everyone could be that happy.  He is a great example to ALL men of how to be a GREAT HUSBAND!!!! 

     I guess what I want to say is very similar to what you wrote.  It is absolutly unrealistic to expect to have an imaculate home when you have little ones.  Any stay at home mother who achieves this I admire, but I have to wonder if she also has time to enjoy her children.  What is more important, your childrens safety and security and happiess or clean floors. 

My husband is also a Gem!  We are a team.  He goes to work all day and works really hard there then he comes home and is engaged in our family.  He helps with anything I ask him to help with. He knows when he gets home that I too worked really hard and would never think to ask me why I did not put the mop in the proper spot.  No it is not always perfect but we are a team.  We are on the same team every day and remembering that makes us the A team for our kids and each other.

This show shook me to the core because I feel like Kelly is being emotionally and verbally abused by Grant.  I dont think he realizes what he is doing but living under these circumstances where no matter what you give its not enough must be absolute torture for her.  I really admire her for fighting for her marriage and the relationship but I must say, if Grant cant play on your team and you cant play on his then what you will always have is a battleground. 


 
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February 23, 2006, 12:25 pm PST

He needs to get real

I think Kelly's husband needs to get real.  If he wants to have everything perfect, he needs to help out.  Never once does he mention helping his wife with anything.  A marriage is an equal partnership no matter who stays home or not.  He seems to have all these expectations that seem to be his own agenda, not Kelly's.  I agree that the one staying home shouldn't be sitting on their butt doing nothing, they need to keep the house up.  The difference is it should be the person staying home deciding what gets done on what day and how much to do.  Does Kelly tell her husband how to do his job???  I have experienced both staying at home and working outside the home and neither is easy.  You have to find the balance and decide daily what needs to be done.  I was also a single parent for many years and let me tell you, doing double the work and raising kids is even a tougher challenge.  I remember going to bed every night exhausted.  Any ways, keep the relationship equal and respectful and things will work out.
 
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