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Topic : 02/21 More Wifestyles

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Created on : Friday, February 17, 2006, 03:07:28 pm
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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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February 21, 2006, 11:42 am PST

Love/hate relationship

Just wondering if anyone has ever talked to Gary about seeking serious Psychiatric help? I mean from what I have seen so far, the man appears to be suffering from a serious case of Obsessive compulsive Disorder that is about to destroy not only his relationship, but his life. Frankly I am amazed that his wife has not noticed it prior to now. 

  

What makes me say this? Being married to two OCD women in the past. One wanted no help, the other finally was forced to admit she needed help. Dr. Phil, I will say this, you have you work cut out for you if you want to try to alter the behavior on either side of this relationship. Seriously, both of them need the help, but... I just don't see it changing until they both admit that there are some serious psychological issues involved here, and that both of them understand what they are. 

  

I will also say that what you said on the show was some of the best advice I have heard ever. "You only control you, and anger is a symptom." Makes me look at some of the things that have happened with me recently in a whole new light. 

  

Thanks again, but I hope these two really find some help, and soon. 

 
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February 21, 2006, 11:46 am PST

give me a break

 Even if this couple works thru this...They will not stay married when the kids are self suffient. She will realize that there is life beyond children and definetly life beyond her husband. 

 I have been married 17 years, we have a 19 and 17 year old together. I know what its like to feel free and reevaluate your life. I am lucky enough to have a husband that always worked with me as a team member. We never label jobs as his or hers. We do laugh that I dont'  take out the garbage or mow the lawn when he is home( he is a merchant seaman). If she bends to his RULES , it will only last untill she finds herself(and it will happen). 

 
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February 21, 2006, 11:47 am PST

Shouldn't It Be 50/50(unless)

I just want to say that I think that if both the husband and wife are working, then they both should take part in coming home and cleaning the home. But, if only the husband works and make enough money to take care of the house pmt.,autos,light bill, insurance,grocery, and the wife. Then why can't the wife(that stay at home) keep the house clean and have some grub(food) cooked for the husband when he get in from work? If the husband work 8 hours are more, then that's enough time for the wife to have the house clean. If there's a child that's home with the wife that's old enough to understand instructions, then the child/children can participate in helping with the clean up. I was in this situation before. I was the stay at home Dad. Due to the fact that I was always a neat freak, cleaning up the house wasn't a problem for me. My wife didn't have to argue at me about having the home clean or the children dressed nor food cooked. I never fixed a big meal since we been married. Because I told her what the deal was before we got married. Then there was a time when my wife was the stay at home parent. I would come home from work and she will at least have me something to eat if not cleaned up the whole house. But if she didn't have anything cooked but the house was clean. I just went out to get me something to eat and won't bring her anything back(she had a car too).  But I do think that whoever is the stay at home parent SHOULD have things clean and cooked for the returning(from work) spouse.  

 

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February 21, 2006, 11:48 am PST

Kelly, a woman of grace!

Well, I am not the perfect wife, and really is there such a thing?  But I really think Kelly is an outstanding wife.  She puts her all and all into raising good kids, trying to please her husband and doing it with grace.  I was very impressed with the way she handles herself on the show.  If I was her, I would have lost my mind by now.  I feel really bad because all she wants is for her husband to love and respect her, is that too much to ask?   Grant is confused about his priorities, he never mentions wanting his children and wife to be happy.   I wonder about his childhood.  Anyway, I don't want to point out all of his faults, I do not know him.  My point is, Kelly, you are a real woman, you have a sweet, kind spirit and I think you should pat yourself on the back sometimes!  Your kids will always remember the stories you read and the times you laugh together, not the cleanliness of the bathrooms and closets.  And maybe if you felt valued by your husband, you would have more energy to watch movies and spend quality time with him.  You hang in there, Kelly!
 
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February 21, 2006, 11:52 am PST

Male expectations of housewives

My feeling on the subject is that wives are no different than us guys.  I feel if they work a normal job during the day as we do then all chores should be shared equally by both husband and wife.  I know that in times past, men felt that washing dishes, doing laundry, vacuuming, ironing clothes, cooking, etc...was a woman's job, but coming from a military background as well as living as a bachelor, us men have to do these things for ourselves at some point in our lives so why should only the woman be subjected to these tasks as they become our wives.  I'm not too proud to do laundry neither am I too proud to iron clothes.  I believe if two people love each other enough, they will take the time to do chores together so that they can have more quality time to spend with each other as well as any children that they may parent.  Yes, if they are housewives, then I do feel that the chores in the house should be completed by the time we get home, but then the chores for the evening should be shared by both.  When I was married to my ex-wife Betty, I wasn't ashamed to do the chores in the house as well as cutting the grass, taking out the trash, grocery shopping, etc...There was even a time when she worked the day shift and I worked 2nd shift, during those days I would keep the house cleaned (laundry, dishes, dusting, and keeping things in order) so when she got home she could pretty much relax and take care of the girls.  I also believe that we each need time to ourselves to pursue our dreams or goals.  I may be different in my reactions to situations, but I feel that two people who honestly love one another will compromise and join together as ONE and not apart as TWO separate entities.  When God joins us in holy matrimony, it is stated LET NO MAN PUT ASUNDER.  I believe this goes for each of us within the marriage as well.  Let us not tear apart this marriage instead let us keep it holy by valuing each others opinions without forcing our views to be followed by our significant other.  We need to take care of ourselves without trying to change our spouses into what we want.  Don't let our spouses lose who they are and were when we married instead accept them for who they truly are which is who we fell in love with in the first place.
 
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February 21, 2006, 11:54 am PST

Enjoy Life

I used to clean my house once a week, then after I had my first child, it went to every other week.  Now that I had my second child, I clean every 5 weeks and tidy up in-between.  Life is too short to sweat the big stuff.  My house is clean, but when it comes to enjoying my husband and children, that is priceless.  They are only little once and I am getting older by the day and the housework will always be there!!!  It's time to enjoy life!!  God isn't going to rate us when we die by how clean our homes are!
 
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February 21, 2006, 11:57 am PST

I can't believe its not butter

well first of all the husband should always wear his wedding ring. It shows respect towards the spouse. If the female is a stay at home mother then yes she should live up to the expectations of the male. In this case the male has taken it way to far with his expectations and therefor is making himself into the bad guy. He is trying to be in controll and Kelly has been working just as much as Grant has. She has to stay hom all day taking care of the children and having to clean and cook and all Grant has to leave get away for a little while and yes his job may be frusterating but at least he doesn't have expectations of the wife that he has to live up to when he gets home. Grading Kelly's cooking is taking it way to far. Well I really don't no what to think about this couple. I guess if she has delt with his crap for this long then they really are a match made in heaven and you can definately see the love and passion there. I am only a kid so I have no idea what being married is like but i see the way my parents treat each other and I see the difference between my dad and my step mom and the difference between the way my dad and my real mom get along and I have seen hatetred and love between them all and the love he has for my step mom is so much different and he has expectations of everyone (he's a southern man) but he does not treat both of my moms like that.
 
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February 21, 2006, 11:57 am PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

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In all sincerity I am asking about your husband's hobbies. 

Dr. Phil said to back off, lighten up. I am finding other things to 

put my energy into. I have been bitten by the RC bug. It is a 

little more expensive than playing cards or watching TV, so 

I suggest it to other guys out there with some hesitation. 

  

These next thoughts aren't tied to your response, so please  

don't feel like they are directed at you. 

  

I have talked to a lot of the seasoned married men, the sort  

that developed selective hearing loss over the years. How do 

they handle marital strife. Several guys in my area rebuild engines, 

cars, etc... Some of the guys that have it worse take up fishing. 

The boats are kept packed and fueled; always ready to go 

when the storm clouds start brewing.  

  

I see a lot of women posting that men just need to learn to  

love their wives more. Have any of you ever really tried to communicate 

with an emotional extreme version of yourself. Image what your husband 

must think the next time you go off at him in one of your moods. Did any of 

you see the show on Monday? I read post after post about teamwork, roles, 

husbands serving wives to make them feel appreciated, blah blah blah! 

But what happens when your husband says he'd like you to do something? 

All of a sudden the oppressed wife banners and fliers come out of no where. 

Protests and riots begin out of no where, and the only thing for your husband 

to do is - look at rebuilding that 460 in his Ford truck. 

When my husband asks me to do something if it is reasonable I deny him nothing. Now that said my husband is not constantly criticizing me or making lists for me on how to be a better wife. If he did I would be less likely to do what he asked of me. I definitely wouldn't want to be intimate for fear he might be critical of that too. When you give as much as you get you will have a happy spouse. There are exceptions to every rule but it seems to me if you went home to your wife with an attitude of love and acceptance you might get a little more. Like Dr.Phil once said one of the most romantic things a man can do for his wife is wash the dishes. Now that said I'll bet you have a dish washer and how long does it take to load that thing? Maybe you could get a maid to come in and hire a babysitter for one day a month. Let your wife have the day off so she could get her hair done maybe a manicure and put on a nice outfit and you could take her out to dinner. Sounds like a lot of fun could come out of a well thought out day. Sure would be a lot more fun then playing with an rc car.
 
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February 21, 2006, 11:58 am PST

Grant and Kelly

Wow! To be honest I don't watch a lot of TV as my time does not permit it. But today amidst exercising, eating breakfast and thinking about my work schedule I listened and watched today's episode with Grant and Kelly. Life never ceases to amaze me, here you have a man who outwardly appears to be so intelligent, though he is emotionally ignorant. Every relationship has to have a strong foundation. It has to be built on commitment, love, mutual respect, acceptance, honesty and passion, and when you don't have those simple ingredients the relationship can fail.  

For the simple fact that Grant doesn't wear his wedding ring is a huge symbol of how he really feels about Kelly. He needs to realize (wake up and smell the coffee) that life isn't perfect, therefore our partner isn't perfect. He needs to learn to accept Kelly for who she is and also for who she is not. He is destroying her self-esteem, and eventually he will push her into a corner. I don't see this relationship lasting if the situation doesn't change.  

Now I also realize there is a 'he said -she said' and there are two sides to every story, and that somewhere amongst the hazy lays the truth, but in actuality one person in the relationship can destroy it. I also know both parties contribute to the relationship, and so of course both parties contribute equal blame. But sometimes one person in the relationship can be more in the wrong. And that's what I see here with Grant and Kelly. 

There's an old saying 'Live and let live'. Grant needs to put aside the things that are not worth fighting over. He also needs to stop belittling Kelly, because if he doesn't  he will end up in divorce court. I have been down this road myself. I was married to and dated men just like him. Kelly is only human. How much more can she take? 

  

Deborah 

 
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February 21, 2006, 11:59 am PST

02/21 More Wifestyles

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well first of all the husband should always wear his wedding ring. It shows respect towards the spouse. If the female is a stay at home mother then yes she should live up to the expectations of the male. In this case the male has taken it way to far with his expectations and therefor is making himself into the bad guy. He is trying to be in controll and Kelly has been working just as much as Grant has. She has to stay hom all day taking care of the children and having to clean and cook and all Grant has to leave get away for a little while and yes his job may be frusterating but at least he doesn't have expectations of the wife that he has to live up to when he gets home. Grading Kelly's cooking is taking it way to far. Well I really don't no what to think about this couple. I guess if she has delt with his crap for this long then they really are a match made in heaven and you can definately see the love and passion there. I am only a kid so I have no idea what being married is like but i see the way my parents treat each other and I see the difference between my dad and my step mom and the difference between the way my dad and my real mom get along and I have seen hatetred and love between them all and the love he has for my step mom is so much different and he has expectations of everyone (he's a southern man) but he does not treat both of my moms like that.
I think any stay at home mom should not have to meet her husbands expections.I agree though a man should always wear his wedding ring.
 
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