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Dr. Phil revisits the topic of what makes a good wife. Grant and Kelly first appeared on the show because Grant expected his wife to live up to his demanding standards. He wanted a cleaner house, better meals and a sexier spouse. After seven years, his constant criticism and disappointment had her ready to throw in the towel on trying to become the "perfect wife." Dr. Phil’s first talk with Grant and Kelly caused quite a stir as thousands of viewers wrote in choosing sides. How are Grant and Kelly now? Has Grant abandoned his critical ways and his expectation of having a Stepford wife? And why is he no longer wearing his wedding ring? Talk about the show here.

 

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March 1, 2006, 6:09 pm PST

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I think it is interesting how people try to shoe horn an individual that they disagree with into some kind of a disorder to make themselves feel better. A number of people that have posted here hint and imply that the idea of organizing your house to make efficient use of your time isn't an outlandish idea after all. I think people would agree with me when I suggest that you can order your home in a way that maximizes the amount of time you'll need to get anything done - so why can't it work the other way too? The real answer to this question is not a fictitious disorder; the reason is a conscious choice not to do so. OUCH! Did I suggest that disorder is a choice we make? Sounds like I've been reading too much psychology recently. Let's talk about who gets 'it', and who doesn't on this issue. I am not hampered with some disorder, other than a disordered home Ha! Have you considered that I may be right? It makes more sense that what you suggest. 

  

Grant 

Grant, the reason people are questioning that you are "all there" has nothing to do with housecleaning.  It is because you seemed oblivious to what your wife is feeling.  You seem oblivious to what you are feeling (I don't know why I stopped wearing my wedding ring) and you didn't seem able to understand how what you do might make Kelly feel.  Those are things that most people understand at the preschool age and it is surprising to find an adult without that type of emotional insight. 
 

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March 1, 2006, 6:12 pm PST

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Right and some spouses need to know they're appreciated by coming home to a hot meal. 


Just because your husband doesn't expect anything out of you doesn't mean somebody else's doesn't. 

My husband and I come home at the same time-3:30 pm...it's a bit early for supper.  But thanks for the swipe at my marriage-nice to see you taking the high road. 

 

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March 1, 2006, 6:14 pm PST

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Oh, I forgot to mention, the kids and my husband (I know you won't believe this one) actually pick up their own dinner dishes and rinse their plates and get them in the dishwasher.   Shocker, huh? 


See, I know you have your opinions of me, but my job as a wife and mother is more than just about cleaning.  I have actually taught my children personal responsibility, and I am trying to get them ready for the big bad world.  And, believe it or not, my husband appreciates all that I do!! 

Did you read my post?  My kids pick up MY plate AND my husband's plate and load all of the day's dishes in the dishwasher. It still takes more than 20 minutes.  I have to say, I just don't believe your assertion.
 
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March 1, 2006, 6:27 pm PST

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My husband and I come home at the same time-3:30 pm...it's a bit early for supper.  But thanks for the swipe at my marriage-nice to see you taking the high road. 

I am betting that you have many other ways of making your husband feel appreciated other than just cooking him a hot meal anyway!   

  

If a man needs to have a hot meal prepared in order to feel appreciated - I would think he wasn't requiring much out of his life. I would think they would want something more substantial in life than just a hot meal or a clean house.  

 

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March 1, 2006, 6:30 pm PST

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Judy, 

  

Gee, thought we lost you off these boards for a while. 

  

See, what I do is prioritize.  To explain it (again)..... 

  

I deep clean my house once a week.  That includes completely cleaning bathrooms, toilets, sinks, etc.  I clean out the kitchen, the fridge and dust.  I vaccum, mop and take care of whatever else needs to be done. 

  

During the week, because I have some really good organizational things in place, it takes me roughly 20 minutes to pick up the day.  That's not to say that while the baby and I are playing that we don't pick up her toys when we're done, or the like, but it roughly takes me about 20 minutes to get the house looking the way it did in the morning. 

  

I also have a laundry system.  That makes the laundry speed right by.  If I throw a load in each day, ir never piles up.   

  

My children are also extremely responsible, and have been taught tasks since they were very young.  For example:  They are responsible for putting their laundry away. 

  

They both wake up in the morning with enough time to eat breakfast, get their lunches together (which, of course most is made the night before), load their backpacks, brush teeth, brush hair, and they still have time to make their beds and pick up anything that's on the floor. 

  

We have a place for everything, so everything that is out is easily put away. 

  

Meals are planned in advance, as you know, and when I do prepare in the mornings, the baby helps and we make it an activity. 


I unload the dishwasher nightly, so during the day I load it, and so it's never an issue with dishes being left. 

  

When you're organized, and know what you're doing, you can literally spend 20 minutes picking stuff up.  It's not something I learned overnight, it was a lot of practice with having things in the right place and knowing where everything belonged. 

  

Oh, did I mention that the kids clean their own bathroom, too??  I know it's a shocker, with you thinking I'm a slave and all.  But, they are responsible during the week to keep their bathroom clean as well. 

  

So, seeing as the kids take care of their rooms, their bathroom and putting their laundry away, and my husband takes care of all the outside maintainance, there isn't that much left to do that's really rocket science. 

  

If you want to do it, you can do it.  For those who say it's impossible, it's just plainly because you don't want to put enough effort into it to get it done. 

  

Diana 

Frankly, that doesn't sound like that averages out to 20 minutes a day-maybe we have differnt clocks up here in Canada?  It takes me a half hour a day to tidy our house but that isn't all it takes to run a household and certainly not enough to meet Grant's standards. Will you at least admit that for Kelly, who is caring for three very young children and has a husband who really thinks he shouldn't have to help at all, your assertion that she could keep her house clean in 20 minutes a day IS unrealistic? 

  

(BTW-you only clean your bathrooms ONCE a week??-shudder, maybe I'm fussier than I thought) 

 

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March 1, 2006, 6:32 pm PST

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I am betting that you have many other ways of making your husband feel appreciated other than just cooking him a hot meal anyway!   

  

If a man needs to have a hot meal prepared in order to feel appreciated - I would think he wasn't requiring much out of his life. I would think they would want something more substantial in life than just a hot meal or a clean house.  

Smile-we do all right.  I do cook most nights but we have delivery sometimes too. I don't have all my selfworth tied up in being the homemaker...but I am a homemaker too.
 
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March 1, 2006, 6:51 pm PST

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Frankly, that doesn't sound like that averages out to 20 minutes a day-maybe we have differnt clocks up here in Canada?  It takes me a half hour a day to tidy our house but that isn't all it takes to run a household and certainly not enough to meet Grant's standards. Will you at least admit that for Kelly, who is caring for three very young children and has a husband who really thinks he shouldn't have to help at all, your assertion that she could keep her house clean in 20 minutes a day IS unrealistic? 

  

(BTW-you only clean your bathrooms ONCE a week??-shudder, maybe I'm fussier than I thought) 

Wait, now I'm confused.  It takes you a 1/2 hour but you employ a maid, too?? 

  

Judy - One doesn't need to scrub down their bathrooms everyday.  Once a week is fine with wipe downs in between.  Please................ 

  

I have talked to Kelly personally and I don't think she has much of a problem as you think she does.   

  

Do you really want to argue over 10 minutes?  Like I said, since the house is so organized, it's a snap! 

  

Maybe, when you're maid comes in, you can take some time to organize things better.  Might shave off those extra minutes! 

 
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March 1, 2006, 6:54 pm PST

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Did you read my post?  My kids pick up MY plate AND my husband's plate and load all of the day's dishes in the dishwasher. It still takes more than 20 minutes.  I have to say, I just don't believe your assertion.

What do you want from me, Judy?  would you like me to walk around with a stop watch, so I can tell you it took me excatly 2 minutes to pick up toys, 4 1/2 minutes to unload the dishwaher, 2.5 seconds to load a breakfast bowl, etc? 

  

If you had read any of MY posts, you would have seen that I originally said that I can throw my house back together in 20 minutes or less.  If you want to add the rest of what I do during the day, add 81/2 minutes and 5 seconds.  OK? 

  

And, great that the queen gets her plate picked up.  Around here, we all do our part. 

 
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March 1, 2006, 6:55 pm PST

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Quote From: judyblue22

My husband and I come home at the same time-3:30 pm...it's a bit early for supper.  But thanks for the swipe at my marriage-nice to see you taking the high road. 

How is that taking a swipe out of your marriage? 

  

You said that you do pretty much whatever you want and that he doesn't expect anything out of you (or something similar - I know how you like to play on semantics). 


And, don't even start trying to be the "nice" one on these boards.  You have taken more digs at me than I care to mention.  Just because we're in front of a new group doesn't mean you can just reinvent yourself. 

  

  

 

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March 1, 2006, 6:57 pm PST

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Quote From: julie1418

I am just in shock at these people getting so bent out of shape over housework.  

  

I don't think people are really bent out of shape over housework. I think it's more a debate (sometimes a bit out of hand) over the many shades of gray that exist between "dirty slob" and "you're making Martha Stewart nervous".  I also think people have a negative reaction to the perception that someone else is imposing his/her standards.  Nobody likes feeling judged. 

  

The couple on the show have 3 children 4 and under. I think we can all agree the wife is not getting much help from them!!  

  

  

The people who think that Grant and Kelly's story was about housework have missed the entire point. It has nothing to do with housework-that is just the TOPIC (among other things-like her not being sexy enough) for Grant's griping.  It has nothing to do with the cause of their problem.   

  

Grant has done a pretty god job at diverting the discussion from the fact that his critism of kelly makes her feel awful into a debate on how much work one can reasonably expect a stay home mother of three preschoolers to accomplish in a day. Nice work :)  

  

I certainly hope Grant understands that the real point of their show was how we can make our marriages exceptional by making each other feel wonderful, loved and truly accepted at the most fundamental level.  I think that was the point Dr Phil was trying to make. 

 
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